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Hi. Can someone tell me please, how long Metacam is ok once opened? I've took Squeak off it now, & still have half a bottle left. Thank you
 
I seem to recall it being 6 months too. If you can't see on the bottle/packaging the best thing to do is to take it to the vets next time if you need to go for another reason and they will check when they prescribed it and advise whether it is safe and there is enough left for what they would prescribe
 
Piggies&buns said:
I think it’s 6 months from memory. It should say on the packaging though
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I threw the box away, as I thought I was going to use it all. Stupid me. Haven't looked at the actual bottle. Another question please, as you are brilliant. What does the clucking sound mean? Squeak does it quite a bit. I'm still new to all this remember. Only had them since early November. It is scary rescuing animals you've never owned before, but I needed to help them. I'm a hamster specialist really.
 
Mclayton said:
I threw the box away, as I thought I was going to use it all. Stupid me. Haven't looked at the actual bottle. Another question please, as you are brilliant. What does the clucking sound mean? Squeak does it quite a bit. I'm still new to all this remember. Only had them since early November. It is scary rescuing animals you've never owned before, but I needed to help them. I'm a hamster specialist really.
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If you are planning on giving Squeak metacam again, then the bottle you have is absolutely fine given he has only just got it.

The issue with sounds is that one persons written description does not necessarily match the other persons perception. I can’t think what you might mean by ‘clucking’. If you want to post a video of it, then that can shed some light
The other issue with sounds is that they are always context and body language based - so in one situation a sound can mean one thing, in another it can mean a different thing.
 
Piggies&buns said:
If you are planning on giving Squeak metacam again, then the bottle you have is absolutely fine given he has only just got it.

The issue with sounds is that one persons written description does not necessarily match the other persons perception. I can’t think what you might mean by ‘clucking’. If you want to post a video of it, then that can shed some light
The other issue with sounds is that they are always context and body language based - so in one situation a sound can mean one thing, in another it can mean a different thing.
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Oh right. Its just a cluck sound. Looked it up online, & it says its when they are content with life. He is a happy piggie. I obviously know the rumble, & wheeking. He fell asleep in the pen tonight with his eyes closed. Thats a very safe feeling guinea pig. Surely 😀
 
Mclayton said:
Oh right. It’s just a cluck sound. Looked it up online, & it says its when they are content with life. He is a happy piggie. I obviously know the rumble, & wheeking. He fell asleep in the pen tonight with his eyes closed. Thats a very safe feeling guinea pig. Surely 😀
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If they fall asleep with their eyes closed, then yes they feel very secure
 
You are doing well with them! You care and want what is best for them.

I struggle with anxiety and low moods also so i know how you feel. For me though, my animals are the things that pulls me out of any anxious feelings and give me clarity.
 
From all I have seen from you, you are a very caring person and I am sure your pigs are more than spoilt.

I’ve been looking after guinea pigs for over a decade and still find myself coming here for advice. No question is a wrong question x
 
Piggies&buns said:
You are doing well with them! You care and want what is best for them.

I struggle with anxiety and low moods also so i know how you feel. For me though, my animals are the things that pulls me out of any anxious feelings and give me clarity.
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Absolutely, yes. Thank you for understanding. I've spent 100s on Squeak. They mean everything to me.
 
pigmotherof6 said:
From all I have seen from you, you are a very caring person and I am sure your pigs are more than spoilt.

I’ve been looking after guinea pigs for over a decade and still find myself coming here for advice. No question is a wrong question x
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Thank you so much for your kind words. Means alot ❤
 
Piggies&buns said:
You are doing well with them! You care and want what is best for them.

I struggle with anxiety and low moods also so i know how you feel. For me though, my animals are the things that pulls me out of any anxious feelings and give me clarity.
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Had results from the urine culture. There is a small amount of bacteria that is resistant to Baytril. I'm really worried now, as the vet has suggested Doxycycline, & she said it causes side effects. But as Squeak is ok right now, she says see how he goes over the next few weeks. I really thought he was going to be ok. Just so upset. 😢😢 I don't want to give him stuff that will make him poorly, as I spend many hours at work, & can't get time off to care for him 😢
 
Mclayton said:
Had results from the urine culture. There is a small amount of bacteria that is resistant to Baytril. I'm really worried now, as the vet has suggested Doxycycline, & she said it causes side effects. But as Squeak is ok right now, she says see how he goes over the next few weeks. I really thought he was going to be ok. Just so upset. 😢😢 I don't want to give him stuff that will make him poorly, as I spend many hours at work, & can't get time off to care for him 😢
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As someone who suffers with anxiety myself I am going to say please try not to overthink this. Wait and see how he goes. If he does need doxycycline, he may suffer no side effects at all. I have had piggies on it and they have been fine. At worst he may need some support feeding if his appetite drops and his weight drops (if you weigh at the same time once a day that is how you tell). By support feeding I do not mean total syringe feeding. He may just need a top up. That is all mine have ever needed. And top ups are given at times that work for you so that you don't need to take any time off work. But he may not need any support at all. That is just all speculation at the moment. Just for today focus on today. If he does need to go onto doxy then that will be by agreement with you and the vet. And he may suffer no side effects at all. Just like us humans - there is a list of potential side effects to all medication. Some people will not suffer any, others may suffer some of them. But thinking about it in advance is not going to change the fact that you won't know unless he starts the treatment.
 
VickiA said:
As someone who suffers with anxiety myself I am going to say please try not to overthink this. Wait and see how he goes. If he does need doxycycline, he may suffer no side effects at all. I have had piggies on it and they have been fine. At worst he may need some support feeding if his appetite drops and his weight drops (if you weigh at the same time once a day that is how you tell). By support feeding I do not mean total syringe feeding. He may just need a top up. That is all mine have ever needed. And top ups are given at times that work for you so that you don't need to take any time off work. But he may not need any support at all. That is just all speculation at the moment. Just for today focus on today. If he does need to go onto doxy then that will be by agreement with you and the vet. And he may suffer no side effects at all. Just like us humans - there is a list of potential side effects to all medication. Some people will not suffer any, others may suffer some of them. But thinking about it in advance is not going to change the fact that you won't know unless he starts the treatment.
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Thank you very much
 
A top up can be just putting a bowl of critical care or mushed pellets in the cage (which can sometimes be tricky if the cage mate will eat it!) or removing him from the cage a couple of times a day (morning and evening for example) so he can eat critical care/mushed pellets unhindered just as a boost for fibre intake. Sometimes an actual syringe feed might be needed as a top up a couple of times a day but it’s not as full on as proper syringe feeding round the clock.

Yes a probiotic or poop soup would be useful
 
Piggies&buns said:
A top up can be just putting a bowl of critical care or mushed pellets in the cage (which can sometimes be tricky if the cage mate will eat it!) or removing him from the cage a couple of times a day (morning and evening for example) so he can eat critical care/mushed pellets unhindered just as a boost for fibre intake. Sometimes an actual syringe feed might be needed as a top up a couple of times a day but it’s not as full on as proper syringe feeding round the clock.

Yes a probiotic or poop soup would be useful
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Well he loves his pellets, so it will be them crushed up then. I don't have any critical care. He spent a month on Baytril with no probiotic. He was fine. What probiotic should I buy then, if needed?
 
Mclayton said:
Well he loves his pellets, so it will be them crushed up then. I don't have any critical care. He spent a month on Baytril with no probiotic. He was fine. What probiotic should I buy then, if needed?
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Baytril is usually well tolerated so not needing a probiotic with that is not unexpected.

I tend to use Pro c or Fibreplex (prefer Fibreplex)
 
Piggies&buns said:
Baytril is usually well tolerated so not needing a probiotic with that is not unexpected.

I tend to use Pro c or Fibreplex (prefer Fibreplex)
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What puzzles me,,, why the vet told me to see how he gets on over next few weeks, knowing he has bacteria in his wee. In that time, surely the bacteria will be worse. I'm so fed up with all this. Its depressing me. Poor Squeak
 
Mclayton said:
What puzzles me,,, why the vet told me to see how he gets on over next few weeks, knowing he has bacteria in his wee. In that time, surely the bacteria will be worse. I'm so fed up with all this. Its depressing me. Poor Squeak
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That’s a question for you to ask the vet. It may not be high enough levels or the type of bacteria may not be concerning enough - we can only make assumptions.
 
Piggies&buns said:
That’s a question for you to ask the vet. It may not be high enough levels or the type of bacteria may not be concerning enough - we can only make assumptions.
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Is this what you mean? Will this last the whole course of antibiotics?
 

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Yes that is the one.
You only use a little bit at each dose of antibiotic.

You can also use poop soup (as well as a commercial probiotic) which is free and very beneficial!
Put Squeaks’s companion in a box, feed him his favourite snack and wait for a few poops to be produced. Immediately put the poops in a little water within five minutes of being produced. Soak them for around 10 minutes, and then syringe the water to Squeaks. This will help replace gut bacteria depleted by antibiotics by directly replacing the gut micro biome from his healthy companion
 
Piggies&buns said:
Yes that is the one.
You only use a little bit at each dose of antibiotic.

You can also use poop soup (as well as a commercial probiotic) which is free and very beneficial!
Put Squeaks’s companion in a box, feed him his favourite snack and wait for a few poops to be produced. Immediately put the poops in water within five minutes of being produced. Soak them for around 10 minutes, and then syringe the water to Squeaks. This will help replace gut bacteria depleted by antibiotics by directly replacing the gut micro biome from his healthy companion
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I've read i have to wait 1-2 hours after antibiotic dose, before giving poop soup. How can I guarantee Bubble doing fresh poos after in that time frame. But then again, they are pooing all the time. Would picking the poos out the playpen be ok, rather than a box, as I'm already sitting here with them, & will see Bubble doing poos
 
Mclayton said:
I've read i have to wait 1-2 hours after antibiotic dose, before giving poop soup. How can I guarantee Bubble doing fresh poos after in that time frame. But then again, they are pooing all the time. Would picking the poos out the playpen be ok, rather than a box, as I'm already sitting here with them, & will see Bubble doing poos
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Yes you give a probiotic 1-2 hours either before or after a dose of antibiotic.
Only put bubble in a box and wait for poops when you are ready to give it to squeaks. You will definitely get poops from him!

Yes you can do that but you’d need to pick them straight up and be sure they are bubble’s. They need to be very fresh poops because the good gut bacteria start to die as soon as the poops are out so they need to be soaked immediately.
 
To add, you can give poop soup several times a day so you could give a commercial probiotic after each antibiotic dose and give poop soup after the commercial probiotic
 
Piggies&buns said:
To add, you can give poop soup several times a day so you could give a commercial probiotic after each antibiotic dose and give poop soup after the commercial probiotic
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Will only be able get fresh poos when they are out in their pen in the evening. Yes, I will get the fibreplex then as well. I just want to prepare, as the bacteria will not go away without treatment I suppose. I just think the vet is prolonging it by a couple of weeks
 
Mclayton said:
Will only be able get fresh poos when they are out in their pen in the evening. Yes, I will get the fibreplex then as well. I just want to prepare, as the bacteria will not go away without treatment I suppose. I just think the vet is prolonging it by a couple of weeks
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You can certainly call the vet and ask them to explain their reasoning for waiting - it may be a reason which makes sense! If not and you are worried you can certainly ask if they will start the course
 
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