Mclayton
Junior Guinea Pig
Thank you x
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Mclayton
Junior Guinea Pig
He really is a mystery. He was absolutely perfect last night. Popcorning, zoomies, very happy, active.
Mclayton
Junior Guinea Pig
Just incase I have to top up feed, why do I have to mash the pellets, if he's already eating,? X
Mclayton
Junior Guinea Pig
Just incase I have to top up feed, why do I need to mash the pellets if he's already eating? I know it may not come to this, I just want to be one step ahead. Saves me getting anxious
You were concerned about him having to go on doxy and it upsetting his digestion - hence the advice about probiotics and support feeding of that happens. And also making sure you weigh him daily so you can spot any issues with weight starting
Mclayton
Junior Guinea Pig
Yes I will weigh him. I suppose the probiotic will help his digestion. He may not even need antibiotics, but like I say, I want to be one step ahead. I've done another urine sample. This time I cleaned the urine container before use, & he was much quicker doing a wee this time, in a disinfected box. His urine looks perfect. Milky but not thick or smelly
piggl
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My advice for the making of a pellet mush was as a homemade substitute of critical care, which is what I personally use to help feed fibreplex.
Fibreplex tastes horrible and I found it much easier to get it in through a 1ml syringe mixed in with their critical care.
Pellets mushed in water can also be used to aid your boy if he is not eating or is losing weight.
You can just give the Fibreplex by itself through the original container and nozzle.
Fibreplex tastes horrible and I found it much easier to get it in through a 1ml syringe mixed in with their critical care.
Pellets mushed in water can also be used to aid your boy if he is not eating or is losing weight.
You can just give the Fibreplex by itself through the original container and nozzle.
Mclayton
Junior Guinea Pig
Yes, was just going to give pellet mash if needed, & Pro C probiotic sprinkled on a lettuce leaf 1 hour after ABs, if he needs them
Good luck at the exotic vets later today
Mclayton
Junior Guinea Pig
Thank you x
Mclayton
Junior Guinea Pig
Squeak has a stone
was that stressed, can't remember if vet said ureter or urethra. Definitely not bladder. He said surgery risky, & I can't afford a CT scan at £1500, looks like time is limited. He had a more in depth scan. This is an exotic vet. Cat metacam only once a day, & Cisapride oral suspension. Also been asked to buy some potassium citrate to put in his water. But how much? Please can you help me? Floods of tears here 
piggl
Forum Donator 2024/25
I’m really sorry to hear this, this must be really scary to find out considering all you have been through.
I really do not think that you should put anything in his water as you do not want to deter them drinking water at all.
Sending you and squeak so much love, is there anyone that can help with vet costs at the moment? To help take the pressure off a bit.
The vet will know better than me but I believe that a stone would be very painful so I wonder why they prescribed only cat Metacam once a day. What is the dosage?
All the best x
I really do not think that you should put anything in his water as you do not want to deter them drinking water at all.
Sending you and squeak so much love, is there anyone that can help with vet costs at the moment? To help take the pressure off a bit.
The vet will know better than me but I believe that a stone would be very painful so I wonder why they prescribed only cat Metacam once a day. What is the dosage?
All the best x
Squeak has a stone
I’m so sorry to hear this.
The ureter is the bit between the kidneys and the bladder. The urethra is out through the penis.
If the stone is in the urethra then it is an emergency surgery situation (the stone would have been through the bladder). A stone in the bladder is easier to remove.
A stone in the ureter is outside of my knowledge but I believe more difficult to deal with.
I am incredibly surprised at a cat metacam once a day dosage. Cisapride is a gut stimulant.
Potassium citrate may help prevent the build up of sludge and formation of stones but I don’t believe there is conclusive evidence of its effectiveness. It won’t do anything for existing stones.
As to how much, we couldnt say I’m afraid but certainly would not put it directly in his drinking water.
Mclayton
Junior Guinea Pig
O.4mls a day
Mclayton
Junior Guinea Pig
I'm on my own. Nobody to help me.
Mclayton
Junior Guinea Pig
What shall I do then, about the metacam? This is a piggie vet. I've been giving him 0.25 mls twice a day, & dog metacam. Maybe its concern for his kidneys. Vet mentioned them. Its a blurr. All I know i have this cisapride. Why would he need a gut stimulant when his bowels are fine
Mclayton
Junior Guinea Pig
Feel poorly with stress
If could be because of concern for his kidneys. The vet needs to make the call where that concern and any pain he is in meets - perhaps the vet doesn’t think he is in much pain.
the best thing would be to call the vet and have them explain everything to you again along with what their plan is going forward. They won’t mind and will totally understand if is difficult to take everything in in a stressful situation
Mclayton
Junior Guinea Pig
I'm sure he said something like, hydro or hydra ureter not given any plan going forward, only metacam once a day & this Cisapride, which I can't even have yet, as its out of stock
I would call and ask them for more info. A nurse should be able to read the notes and discuss the plan with you (or else the vet himself/herself). I would also ask to discuss the Metacam dosage. Good luck x
Mclayton
Junior Guinea Pig
Just had call from the vet practice. His urine sample been looked at. Few crystals there, little sludge. HOW? with the diet he's on. I'm struggling now, to cope
Diet is only a part of the issue When it comes to this kind of problem, there is also a genetic element which obviously you cannot do anything about.
You haven’t done anything to cause this.
If something goes wrong with their absorption of minerals they can just suddenly produce stones. I’ve been through something similar with 2 boars in the past. One had no stones on X-ray just a few weeks before having an X-ray showing he had one huge spiky stone and several smaller ones. And he was on the recommended diet and had as little calcium as possible in his diet. This is nothing that you have done or not done. Very sadly these things do just happen despite our best attempts.
Mclayton
Junior Guinea Pig
Thank you. I'm upset thinking its my fault. I've done absolutely everything right since I've had them.
piggl
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In no way is it your fault, we can all see the care and time you put into your boys. You have done way more than many would.
Please do not ever think of it like that, as you are correct you have done everything right since you've had them, unfortunately genetics and such can influence illness but you should know that many members on here suffer with similar issues no matter the level of care you put into such animal.
Take care of yourself in these times x
Please do not ever think of it like that, as you are correct you have done everything right since you've had them, unfortunately genetics and such can influence illness but you should know that many members on here suffer with similar issues no matter the level of care you put into such animal.
Take care of yourself in these times x
Mclayton
Junior Guinea Pig
just look at him Attachments
Mclayton
Junior Guinea Pig
I've decided to take no notice of vet concerning the metacam dose. O.4mls daily. No. I'm carrying on with 0.25mls twice a day
of course we cannot advocate going against vet advice but i jusf want to ask Do you mean you are going to give the dog or cat metacam?
Mclayton
Junior Guinea Pig
Still have dog metacam left, which has been 0.3mls twice a day from my previous vet. The cat Metacam is 0.4mls a day. I think with me telling the vet today, he's not really been that much different on or off treatment,,, probably that's why back to once a day cat Metacam
Free Ranger
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This might be a bit controversial but part of being a lone piggy parent is trying to balance piggy care with self care. Squeaks doesn't realise what is amiss with him. As far as he's concerned he's OK a lot of the time and sometimes it hurts him to pee. So if he's OK with the metacam taking the edge off, try and give yourself a bit of time to digest this news. Anxiety gives a terrible sense of urgency that makes you want to sort everything straight away but sometimes we just can't - and not just because our wallet is battered. This sort of diagnosis does fit with his symptoms a bit more though doesn't it. If he's maintaining his weight and acting ok most of the time then he IS ok most of the time. He doesn't spend that time waiting for the next bout of difficulty or dreading the next pee. That's just us - and I'm so sorry because it's very hard to live with.
Can you find out what sort of scan he had and how clear it was? X-rays they take a picture and they should be able to send it to you via e-mail. These show stones in sharp focus. Ultrasound can identify stones but they are fuzzier and there isn't usually a picture - at least my vet doesn't do them. I've not had CT or anything like that. I'm just wondering whether they are certain there is a stone in the tube or whether it might be an accumulation of sludge or crystals, if you see what I mean.
If you can also find out whether this stone is in his ureter (between kidneys and bladder) or urethra (from bladder along penis to outside). We used to remember it as "you-wee-thra your urethra" in biology. I have heard that stones wedged in the urethra can sometimes be flushed back into the bladder but I have never had anything like this personally. This piggy Raymond had a bladder flush for sludge Sludge in bladder and he's also a younger boy. His owner says that 90% of the time he's fine. Now, even if this procedure is a possibility that's not to say it will be right for him, or even any use for you at this stage, because piggy Raymond had a bladder absolutely full of sludge. But it's something to hold in your pocket for the future. For now it's just keep on keeping on x
Can you find out what sort of scan he had and how clear it was? X-rays they take a picture and they should be able to send it to you via e-mail. These show stones in sharp focus. Ultrasound can identify stones but they are fuzzier and there isn't usually a picture - at least my vet doesn't do them. I've not had CT or anything like that. I'm just wondering whether they are certain there is a stone in the tube or whether it might be an accumulation of sludge or crystals, if you see what I mean.
If you can also find out whether this stone is in his ureter (between kidneys and bladder) or urethra (from bladder along penis to outside). We used to remember it as "you-wee-thra your urethra" in biology. I have heard that stones wedged in the urethra can sometimes be flushed back into the bladder but I have never had anything like this personally. This piggy Raymond had a bladder flush for sludge Sludge in bladder and he's also a younger boy. His owner says that 90% of the time he's fine. Now, even if this procedure is a possibility that's not to say it will be right for him, or even any use for you at this stage, because piggy Raymond had a bladder absolutely full of sludge. But it's something to hold in your pocket for the future. For now it's just keep on keeping on x
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