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Feeding after dental

Peppers current favourite food is tissues and cardboard, he is taking his syringes really well but still not showing interest in hay, he does still look to be in pain and we are still having some bloody wee’s we will be taking it day bay day in the hope he starts to show some improvement.
 
When they've had dental issues they tend not to eat hay for a while. If he will eat grass, that is just as good at wearing the teeth. I did have a thought earlier. Many years ago, we had a guinea pig arrive here with dental issues. The first thing I noticed was she smelt strongly of urine. Once she was in the cage it became clear that her urine was blood stained. I took her straight to see Simon and he filed her teeth and said he wondered if it was an inflammatory cystitis, rather than an infection. He said to give her Loxicom, twice daily and see if it settled, and if not he would prescribe some antibiotics. It immediately settled, but whenever she needed her teeth tidying up, she would get cystitis, so it was clearly a stress related cystitis, when she wasn't feeling 100%.
 
furryfriends (TEAS) said:
When they've had dental issues they tend not to eat hay for a while. If he will eat grass, that is just as good at wearing the teeth. I did have a thought earlier. Many years ago, we had a guinea pig arrive here with dental issues. The first thing I noticed was she smelt strongly of urine. Once she was in the cage it became clear that her urine was blood stained. I took her straight to see Simon and he filed her teeth and said he wondered if it was an inflammatory cystitis, rather than an infection. He said to give her Loxicom, twice daily and see if it settled, and if not he would prescribe some antibiotics. It immediately settled, but whenever she needed her teeth tidying up, she would get cystitis, so it was clearly a stress related cystitis, when she wasn't feeling 100%.
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The challenge with grass is we live in a flat in south London, so grass is hard to come by and it will be covered in dog wee, we have picked and washed some but I worry that we don’t clean it enough!
That’s interesting that it was stressed induced cystitis the vet did mention it could be that, he is on meloxadyl (dog) 0.4ml twice a day and he does appear to be in pain before he has it and it settles. The wee is bright bright red is this normal? When I have looked at other posts on the forum it looks cloudy and milky where as this is proper fresh blood 😞
He is on baytril now as a bit of a test to see if it is an infection or not, but I’m going to call our vets in the morning to check with them that they are happy with what he has been prescribed. If we don’t see an improvements in the coming days then I think I’ll be booking in with Simon when he is back for a second opinion.
 
rp1993 said:
The challenge with grass is we live in a flat in south London, so grass is hard to come by and it will be covered in dog wee, we have picked and washed some but I worry that we don’t clean it enough!
That’s interesting that it was stressed induced cystitis the vet did mention it could be that, he is on meloxadyl (dog) 0.4ml twice a day and he does appear to be in pain before he has it and it settles. The wee is bright bright red is this normal? When I have looked at other posts on the forum it looks cloudy and milky where as this is proper fresh blood 😞
He is on baytril now as a bit of a test to see if it is an infection or not, but I’m going to call our vets in the morning to check with them that they are happy with what he has been prescribed. If we don’t see an improvements in the coming days then I think I’ll be booking in with Simon when he is back for a second opinion.
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The piggy we had was doing bright red wees to start with, but within a day or two she was back to normal. I would definitely look at getting an appointment with Simon, once he's back, if things aren't improving. It would be worth getting him registered at Cat and Rabbit Clinic now and take whatever appointment they can offer, even if it's weeks away. You can always cancel if it's not needed. However, if you've got him registered you can then ring for an emergency, on the day, appointment and get an appointment much sooner.
 
Poor little man. I’ve definitely seen fresh blood like that in wees when they’ve had cystitis or bladder infections. Hoping that the baytril helps him.
 
furryfriends (TEAS) said:
The piggy we had was doing bright red wees to start with, but within a day or two she was back to normal. I would definitely look at getting an appointment with Simon, once he's back, if things aren't improving. It would be worth getting him registered at Cat and Rabbit Clinic now and take whatever appointment they can offer, even if it's weeks away. You can always cancel if it's not needed. However, if you've got him registered you can then ring for an emergency, on the day, appointment and get an appointment much sooner.
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Do I just need to call them to get him registered?
 
rp1993 said:
Do I just need to call them to get him registered?
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Yes, you should be able to register him! I know they weren’t taking new ones on at the time they were moving and with the Maddock’s holiday being imminent, but I think they are now!
 
Fab I’ll give them a call one day this week, good job I’m dropping my work down to three days in august!
 
Such a rollercoaster with a sick piggy. I’m glad he’s make progress. Keep munching Pepper.
 
He has been nibbling away in the hay again this evening, so so pleased, we won’t be stepping back on syringe feeding as we feel this is where we went wrong last week. We are going to the vets on Thursday for a check up and I will be requesting another week of gut meds, we are also seeing less blood in the cage from his pee!
 
Pepper is continuing to improve 1012g today!

We are slowly going to wean him off CC and emeprid which our vet was happy to do.

We have been poop monitoring for a few days and they keep getting better and better with what I would almost call a “normal” amount in the last 24 hours!

Fingers crossed the corner has been turned and we don’t have a repeat of last weekend! He also hasn’t peed blood in days!
 
rp1993 said:
Pepper is continuing to improve 1012g today!

We are slowly going to wean him off CC and emeprid which our vet was happy to do.

We have been poop monitoring for a few days and they keep getting better and better with what I would almost call a “normal” amount in the last 24 hours!

Fingers crossed the corner has been turned and we don’t have a repeat of last weekend! He also hasn’t peed blood in days!
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Fantastic news! 😊
 
We felt like pepper was making good progress and I had really hoped coming off the antibiotics on Thursday would have ment some good weight gain, but it does not to seem to be the case, he lost 10 grams yesterday and another 10 today taking him from 1033g back to 1010g. He is still on emiprid 3 times a day and we were topping up 40ml per day but clearly it’s not enough. The vet said when we called her last week that if he doesn’t improve they will refer him somewhere else so I think it’s time to ask for a referral up to the cat and rabbit. Pig dad goes away on business the week after next and I work 3 days a week out of the house so it’s going to be very difficult.
 
Oh no. I hope you can sort something out. Good luck Pepper. I hope you are soon on the mend. ❤️
 
weepweeps said:
Oh no. I hope you can sort something out. Good luck Pepper. I hope you are soon on the mend. ❤️
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I just had brunch with some other piggies mums one of which happens to be a vet at our practise, the one I prefer to see but hasn’t been treating him, she has suggested
Some other meds to try and did say that he likely may need some X-rays and bloods which annoyingly were not done at the same time as the dental (she would of done them) ☹️
 
Do you know what the bloods are for? Or the X-ray? I really would go to the C&R if you can and see Simon or Kim. They will give you an assessment of what’s going on, they are quite amazing and have such vast experience over and above the rest.
Good luck x I don’t think you actually need a referral now but it might help to get you a quicker appt, they are always very booked up, take any appt then ring at 8.00 am for one During that day, you can always cancel the other if you get in
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Just saying I regret not getting Percy in to Cat and Rabbit for his bladder stone. I truly believe he’d still be here if they’d been able to see/operate on him (they were on holiday at the time and I was going away too). If you can get there, go. X
 
Yes we have already been talking about contacting the cat and rabbit to get him booked in there as I feel like that will be the best place for him to go, our friend suggested bloods incase it is something else and not his teeth.

I’ll get pig dad to give them a ring tomorrow, I start my 3 day working week next week so I will have Mondays/ Fridays to take him.
 
furryfriends (TEAS) said:
I’d definitely look at getting an appointment to see Simon or Kim. They’re so experienced that they’ll be able to tell you exactly what the situation is xx
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Do you still offering boarding and taking the pigs to appointments?
I’m thinking if he needs to have some tests done it would be a lot easier on us if we could use your services? Xx
 
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