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I have been told once i think that I'm a hoarder :-\ whats this mean - I'm sure there is no such word in the english dictionary of this 98)
well i was watching animal planet like miami something or one of those programmes and there was a man who kept like 100 cats in his house in like large hutches :( and the humane society people found a freezer with 150 dead cats that the man didnt want to get rid of as he loved them too much to get rid of the bodies :'( :'(

anyone watch it ?

Anyway ive been thinking about my 20 something guineas and i after the next lot of piggies 'think' am gonna stop getting any more :o
However ill need lots of help to stop me from getting any after next month :(

I dont think I'm going too far at all but i just want to let my piggies be happy as they are now and after my lot have gone to the bridge i am gonna start fostering piggies :smitten: but at the moment I'm enjoying ym time left with all my piggies first as they have lots of life left in them yet ;D

I just need help :(
 
A hoarder is someone who is like a collecter. My Dad is a hoarder, he hoards books and will not part with them.

I personally think you've got a lot of pigs, and I think maybe you enjoy having them and care for them in a great way (I mean just look at your set up) but I do worry you've taken on too much, I worry with having six but 26 plus!

I think you've a lot to give in terms of getting an education in this sort of thing (I know you want to stay at home with your pigs) but you are young, I think you'd be a great rodentoligist, you could do it. I think you need to have some belief in yourself. :)
 
If you finish the course you are doing you will stand a far greater chance of being able to work with guinea pigs! Thats why I carry on with college!

I think you are right about not taking on more. I love my piggies, but I am pleased I am rehoming a few because they will have better lives. I think it is important to have a cuddle with every single one every day, and I struggle to do that with 7! I'm not going to take on anymore either. I have a happy herd of 4, and I'm not going to add any!
 
i think its easy for people to get carried away and theres nothing which stops people from having hundreds of pets, pet owners just need to be repsonsible and know their limit, like ive said i find it hard work having 3 and if i had any more i wouldnt be able to give mine the same time and care they get now :)
 
I have to be honest hun, it has crossed my mind that you were starting to act a bit like a hoarder :embarassed:....well more a collector...as with guineas, like any animal, you can only have so many and cater for their needs....

I am so so glad you have said you need help, as guineas, like anthing can be addictive! we all love you here, and I know that sometimes I come across as atotal bitch to you, but thast because I care, and I'm trying to make you understand that maybe getting more is a bad idea.

You are my friend, and I genuinely like you, I do think you have more than enough guineas, and between college, and being on here, I know if I was you I wouldnt have much time to sit in teh shed.

I think when you feel like buying another, just call or pm me, and I'll makesure you dont ;D ;D I knwo you buy lots of things for youer guineas already, but maybe when you feel like looking at other guineas, play with your guineas, get to knoe their personalities. Dont look at ay breeder websites, freeads etc and then you wont be tempted O0
 
I think 20 something guineas is enough :D you have to come to a point when you've got enough!

I don't know if you're a horder as such...saying that sounds like you just collect guineas just to say you have another to add to your collection & don't want to look after them! and of course you're no way as bad as the man on the tv. But yeah 20 something is more than enough :)
 
Hi thanks alot everyone O0

I can look after the ones i have got now thats why i thought i didnt have too many :-\ Even if i had 1 piggy i would not hold it every day thats my opinion though ;)
I however dont look at breeders websites O0 Although i am on a forum for breeders and thats where i get my piggies from as they have a for sale page - and i get sooo tempted with all the piggy piccies :smitten: but i do look on their websites too if they dont have piccies as they leave their link ::)

anyway like i said i am getting 4 more piggies soon and after that i am gonna stop buying anymore :) I'm gonna spend every bit of spare time with them 0:)
 
hi
i personally think too, that 26 is quite a lot to look after (i'm not trying to be horrible or bitchy), i know you have the best intentions possible for getting them and looking after them well, but there's only so many hours in the day and it is a lot of work. plus, i like to cuddle all my piggies for a while each day and give them indivisual attention, which would be pretty hard with that many!
i think you're making the right decision, however hard it may be, it's gotta be the best for the piggies and you! WELL DONE *MASSIVE HUGS* :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
Iloveanimals I know how gorgeous guinea pigs are we we have lots of pets as well as our rescues but you have to be honest with youself. I am a member of several breeders forums so I can keep informed on breeders and their attuitudes towards their animals and have some friends who are on there.

One is purely a site for advertisement of cavies and other animals you are a member there and visit regularly making enquiries about animals (I can understand it is tempting but visiting there when you are trying not to get any more animals when the site is specifically for cavy and rabbbit sales is just looking for more animals in my humble opinion) last night you made enquiries about several rabbits and guinea pigs.

The people on this forum including myself are willing to help we all are piggyholics and sometimes are tempted and think about room for just one more :smitten: but must be practical and look after the guineas we have. I am not trying to be mean to you, just honest we are all piggyholics and need to be honest about it. I am dreadful when I go for pet food in a different shop from my usual one and always look at the guineas am often tempted but think practically and morally and I never leave with one.

We all have the 'urge' in some form or another it is just a case of being honest and realistic with yourself, that you are thinking of giving up your education to look after your guineas is worrying, I am kept constnatly aware of my limitations by myself and my OH (even though he loves guineas there is only so much work and guinea cuddling we can do) We have a top number of 35 guineas here rescues and our own and we stick to it rigidly with two of us doing the work and cuddling. In an emergency we can take more temporarily but they are always on the way to other rescue spaces or fosterers. I love my guineas but have to have time for other aspects of my life as well.

Lots of people have offered to help and support here please take what they say on board and stop visiting the classfieds page and breeders websites if it is too tempting and you can't just look without enquiring. Have a definate number of animals in your head you can have and stick to it, after that just repeat 'No more animals' everytime you feel the urge. I do this all the time 'rescue guinea not going to be staying' when I cuddle ours I :smitten: them all but know they will go on to lovely homes and i stay in touch with them.
I hope you enjoy spending time with the guineas you have and stick to the decision of not getting any more, if you are tempted as Perfect Piggies said get in touch with one of us for a chat instead of making enquiries about another animal O0
 
Well said Vikki.

While I know it's a personal thing on how many you can keep I often find it hard work to keep up with my 5 (probably because I spoil them rotten!). I have plenty time to offer them and, luckily, enough money to look after them but I can't imagine keeping 5 times that number. I especially couldn't even comprehend doing it when I was bearly an adult.

I do, however, think that pigs DO need to be handled daily. While not necessarily for hours on end, I think it's essential to make sure they are well.
 
I think you have made the best decision, for you and your beautiful guinea pigs. At least you can give the piggies you have got plenty of love and cuddles.
If you got any more you know that it would be difficult to give each one the time they need.
Your guinea pigs are happy and healthy and you should be so proud of yourself for giving them such a happy life :)
I wish sometimes I could rescue all the poor little darlings, but instead we can only do what we all do already and that is to care for those we can realistacally manage to care for between us all. Our guinea pigs are lucky to have us, and we are lucky to have each others support xx :)
 
Vikki said:
I am a member of several breeders forums so I can keep informed on breeders and their attuitudes towards their animals and have some friends who are on there.

One is purely a site for advertisement of cavies and other animals you are a member there and visit regularly making enquiries about animals (I can understand it is tempting but visiting there when you are trying not to get any more animals when the site is specifically for cavy and rabbbit sales is just looking for more animals in my humble opinion) last night you made enquiries about several rabbits and guinea pigs.
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So why are you a member of breeders sites ? - is it just to watch what they do ?

The classifieds does also have a Rescue section.
 
I think you will find there are a mixture of people on all forums, it isnt a sin to go on to breeding forums I also think you will find there are a fair few people who go on rescue and breeding forums who are also members here ;)
 
Informed on breeding and people who do so and keeping in touch with friends who happen to breed would possibly be a better turn of phrase but my reason for being on those forums is really not the point in question.

Please do not get defensive and question my motives or reasons for being on those forums iloveanimals I am just trying to help and was in no way being mean, the site does have a rescue section but you said you wanted to not get any more guineapigs and have been tempted by the site to ask about guinea pigs and rabbits- be they from rescue or from breeders, and had made several enquiries on there in one evening. Guinea welfare is important to me who evers shed they are in breeder or pet owner and you and asked for people to help you not get anymore and so I brought it to your attention that you had been tempted by several animals and should maybe re-concider making enquiries and/or visiting the site at all, in a thread you had started to help you stop being tempted. Possibly it would have been better by PM but as you had publically asked for help I publically gave it so you could get support from who ever you chose to on here lots of people want to help.

If you would like to know why I visit the breeders sites (and when I look at piggys I can be tempted I am only human and think they are gorgeous for a moment too- but then I just think of all the animals we have here and the next call about 10+ guinea pigs needing rescue placements which soon brings me down with a thump!)
The breeders site do have rescue sections most of which i post in, it is great to keep people more aware of rescues, also if someone who was looking for a piggy who may not have known about a local rescue can see them there when they look for baby guineas from the breeding forums. . I am also friends with people on breeders forums as there are some breeders out there who care for their guineas very much. I like to know about the breeding world plus there are some lovely individuals who can give great advice as they are more experienced with pregnancies.
I have been cold called by people trying to find places for guinea pigs and subsequently found out there are breeders trying to get rid of unwanted stock and also people phone here who actually have the intention of breeding from the guineas they re-home, so to know who is who can save a space for a needy guinea is very useful and prevent our guinea pigs going to unsuitable homes, although most are put off by our homechcking and adoption donation ;D O0. Without the breeders forums I would not know as much about which calls were genuine and which are not.
I am not 007 ;D I just like to learn as much about guineas as possible and there are some lovely people that do happen to breed that I enjoy talking to and give valuable advice on many issues. Breeding can be a sensitive issue here as it is a pro rescue forum and everyone has their own opinion, I would rather guineas were not sold from petshops and only available from licensed breeders or rescues. Some breeders keep all their retired sows and babies, some sell babies they will not use for showing, some breeders make me :tickedoff: but isn't that the same with everything be it guinea pig breeding or who is in the local pub one night ;) Inentional breeding is a topic not usually discussed on this forum so for advice on pregnancys I do go to breeders sites where they have more experience of it, they all know I rescue and who I am so if I was 007 my cover would be awful and I would probably be put up against the nearest wall and shot ;D
 
I'm a member of breeder sites too, I post here regularly though and some on the other forums do have other aspects to their forums like health and illness and general chat. I don't agree with showing so I simply don't read those forums but the pregnancy forums, if someone has an un-intentional pregnant pig then of course I'd try to help out, but those that do it for fun then I don't get involved with because it goes against what I believe in.

:)
 
I think it is clear that lots of people go on breeder sites iloveanimals O0 if you want to keep your numbers of guineas at what they are now maybe it would be an idea to stick to certain sections as SunshineAndTwinkle does if you don't look at rescue or for sale sections no more temptaion then O0
 
Vikki said:
Please do not get defensive and question my motives or reasons for being on those forums iloveanimals I am just trying to help and was in no way being mean, the site does have a rescue section but you said you wanted to not get any more guineapigs and have been tempted by the site to ask about guinea pigs and rabbits- be they from rescue or from breeders, and had made several enquiries on there in one evening. Guinea welfare is important to me who evers shed they are in breeder or pet owner and you and asked for people to help you not get anymore and so I brought it to your attention that you had been tempted by several animals and should maybe re-concider making enquiries and/or visiting the site at all, in a thread you had started to help you stop being tempted. Possibly it would have been better by PM but as you had publically asked for help I publically gave it so you could get support from who ever you chose to on here lots of people want to help.
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Juat realised it was not ilove animals that asked why I was on breeders forums sorry ILA too late to ammend the post now, please disregard this bit of my previous statement. Having a 98) Sunday afternoon I am sure you are trying you best not to get anymore.
 
I must admit feeling like a bit of a hoarder at first, I did get sort of swept away by the whole cuteness of Guinea Pigs. Of course I was getting one or two anyway and got Sunshine and then Twinkle but then I saw Cuzzy and thought awww so got him to live with the boys and they were fine together but then they fell out and Cuzzy was a lone pig.

I by that time had read so much on here about Sows being different from Boars so I thought I'd get a couple from a rescue and I got Flora and Fleur from Sokel. Cuzzy fell ill and I thought that once he was recovered I'd get him a boar so we got Eccles and then Cuzzy passed away and we got Pudsey.

I had to say that six was enough. I can afford the ones I've got but anymore and it would be a struggle. When one of the boys passes over and it will happen of course then I'll try and bond three instead of getting more pigs. Otherwise you just go around and around in circles getting pigs to replace the ones you've lost if only for the pigs youve still got sake. :)
 
They are the most addictive creatures it is true we all suffer from multiple guinea syndrome to some extent ;D
 
OMG thanks for all your advice everyone :smitten: I have read all your views etc and took into account at how many i should limitate myself to and its gonna be 30 O0 That is it - no more than that ;)

Yes i do go on loads of other forums to and do enquirer about them but that doesnt mean I'm enquiring about them for myself O0 as i am sometimes but other times I'm not :)

Yes i do look at the site where its mainly just for selling guinea pigs but i like to see what people are selling and it doesnt mean ill buy them ;D

Thanks for all of your advice it was really good to hear what you thought 0:)
 
I had not thought about you buying for third parties that is true ILA. It is great you have found a limit number, I know to enquire is not to buy but I was just a bit worried given what you had said here and then to see lots of enquiries.. A few of our pet guineas here came from breeders we got them before we became a small rescue.
 
Its ok O0
Yeah i have got a few rescue piggies and bought from breeders too - I dont see the difference at all from any of them :smitten: thats why i just like to get them no matter where from as long as i can look after them O0
 
What is happening about the 4 bunnies?

You know they would need like 10 times as much space as guineas, and are pretty expensive to neuterer and get injected?

I am sooo jealous, I wish I could get 4 ;D :smitten: :smitten:
 
Hi :)
Not getting them just yet gotta see what my cousin says yet as he knows nothing about rabbits and there hutch is quite small for 2 bunnies :-\ and they smell badly as he hardly cleans them out :P
I said I'm not getting them neutered :) as i dont believe in it and they will get jabs if i get them but i dont think they have had them or not already as i need to speak to my cousin to let me have them :-\ but I'm gonna think about rehoming them tho as i wont have the time for them 0:)
I just need to get them out of his hands as hes only 10 and he gets what he wants all the time and money buys him love so whatever he wants he gets even animals like his 7 rabbits :-\
 
I thought it was necessary for the health of bunnies to have them neutered? Both sexes can be very territorial if left "intact". According to the RWF there's an 80% chance a female will develop uterine cancer if left unspayed.
 
I have never heard that before but i dont believe in neutering at all :-\ and i have had bunnies ALL my life so have my familt and have had NOTHIGN wrong with unneutered animals O0
 
At one stage a few years ago I had around 50 cavies living in my shed in the garden out the back of Nathans parents house and she used to say I 'collected' them, mainly as a joke because I could not bring myself to sell on babies.

Sadly something to this day I do not know what brought in Gastroentritis into my shed and over a 8 month period, starting the week my Daddy died I lost around 30 pigs, a couple had to be PTS, one had signs of OD and the other had a tumour on her throat which the vet would not operate on, understandably. This was heart breaking to go through, knowing their could be a pig dieing or dead within my shed. Most days I dreaded going in to clean them out or the daily feeding due to the heart break of finding someone. I prayed everyday to stop the nightmare I was going though, unlike the typical sterotype breeders each of my pigs has a name, I know their date of birth, personalities, and if they needed medical attention they get it. Maybe my cages were smaller than recommended but they would get access to fresh food and water everyday along with a run around the garden or shed floor depending on the weather.

I now have 18 Guinea Pigs, 15 of them live with me in my flat, and 3 live with nathans parents, I go up and check on them every week and Nathans mam who asked me to leave her a couple loves them being around, they are still in the shed and I have made two hutches into one now so 3 of them have 6ft x 2ft x 2ft hutch! If the weather is cold she puts on the oil filled radiator and they all come to the front of the hutch to keep warm, lol! I will admit if I had the space I would have a few more but never go over 30 because the 50 was difficult to look after, espcially the cleaning it would take me upto 4hrs on a Sunday and the food bills was huge BUT at the time I loved each and everyone and I could not bear to part with them.

Some may judge me for being on this forum because I am a breeder I will admit it but my last litter are 6 months old and I do not have any more babies planned. I breed to carry on the traits of a certain pig and I would love to breed Aurelio or LJ to carry on Lindsey (RIP) lines but I do not have a suitable sow so it will probably never happen. I admit I show but its very rare occurance for me now because my piggies are getting past it, most are 3yrs old and over this year and the younger fitter pigs always beat them so I go to speak to my friends and enjoy the atmosphere, maybe putting a pig in the pet classes.

Sorry if I rambled on.
Emma x
 
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