COVID-19 Coronavirus

Lady Kelly said:
Also the PM has said he is confident we can get a handle on this within 12 weeks if people just follow advice. So for god's sake people just stay at home unless absolutely necessary!
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Yup, the next two or so weeks will be the start of the critical period, if we can all pull together and follow the scientific advice, then at current predictions, ,the NHS will still be overwhelmed, but we'll be able to reduce the deaths by a considerable margin, compared to if we just all carry on as normal.
 
Lady Kelly said:
Also the PM has said he is confident we can get a handle on this within 12 weeks if people just follow advice. So for god's sake people just stay at home unless absolutely necessary!
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I have to collect a prescription tomorrow & return some mail order clothes so I dont get charged & I need carrots for making a stew! I will keep my distance from everyone I see.
 
Sar said:
I've put my mum on house arrest. She has no desire to go out anyway at the minite.
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Me and my brother have had to have talks with my mum. She has rheumatoid arthritis and has recently come off steroids after a flare up. She is classed as having a weakened immune system but is the manager of a charity shop and is often running the shop alone. She should not be dealing with people face to face. I coached her in a conversation to have with the area manager and said she may need to make a decision over whether she puts herself first or work. When she spoke to the area manager about what the doctor had said she was immediately told not to come in to work, that they will deal with it but they may have a few tasks she can do from home on her laptop. I'm glad she has finally done the right thing and hasn't felt pressured into going on sick leave and statutory sick pay. She will get paid normal pay for at least two weeks now
 
Lady Kelly said:
Me and my brother have had to have talks with my mum. She has rheumatoid arthritis and has recently come off steroids after a flare up. She is classed as having a weakened immune system but is the manager of a charity shop and is often running the shop alone. She should not be dealing with people face to face. I coached her in a conversation to have with the area manager and said she may need to make a decision over whether she puts herself first or work. When she spoke to the area manager about what the doctor had said she was immediately told not to come in to work, that they will deal with it but they may have a few tasks she can do from home on her laptop. I'm glad she has finally done the right thing and hasn't felt pressured into going on sick leave and statutory sick pay. She will get paid normal pay for at least two weeks now
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Have had the same problem with my Gran, she's 86 now, in very good shape for her age, but she keeps very busy, her usual routine is to abuse her free bus pass to the maximum, it seems she listened to the PM on Monday - although she did pop to the local cornershop, which - I'm really really thankful for have told her to keep away and they'll deliver the usual staples to her door, she's also had offers from neighbours, who aren't too far from her age, bless them. My cousins are managing to bring her cooked meals - staying distanced of course, but she still needs the major supplies on Saturday, which wouldn't otherwise be an issue, but it seems we're going to have to find somewhere in the countryside to try and source them from, she's more than used to making do, and she doesn't eat much and she's a very, very robust and stoic person so I think she'll manage, it's just that when she's alone her tinitus really drives her mad, she's made of good stuff - the last enemy we faced on this scale were kind enough to demolish her house around her, but other than a phobia of fireworks, she's still going strong.
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
I'm thinking about making myself into a Saturday night delivery service for anyone I know who needs me, just door step deliveries from a whatsapp or sms shopping list then bank transfer straight to me. Duno if itl work out
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I think there are a few groups popping up, to help the elderly and vulernable, but of course that's unpaid.
 
Falken said:
I think there are a few groups popping up, to help the elderly and vulernable, but of course that's unpaid.
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Yea def unpaid, would be horrid to charge. OK maybe petrol to non elderly if you are a bit skint yourself but that's all
 
I have a dilemma which wont be unique,I know. I am due to visit my parents in Norfolk on Sunday.I live in Oxfordshire. My Dad is having palliative chemo for end stage bowel cancer.I have fibromyalgia which in itself isnt affecting my immune system but might make me vulnerable if i become unwell. i will have to do a pee break on the way at a service station which increases the risk of me becoming infected as people from all over the country will be using it. They want me to go despite any risk. My Dad hasnt got long and wants to see me. If I take infection I would be mortified. Obviously if I had any symptoms I wouldnt go. I cant decide what to do:hmm:
 
piggles 7000 said:
I have a dilemma which wont be unique,I know. I am due to visit my parents in Norfolk on Sunday.I live in Oxfordshire. My Dad is having palliative chemo for end stage bowel cancer.I have fibromyalgia which in itself isnt affecting my immune system but might make me vulnerable if i become unwell. i will have to do a pee break on the way at a service station which increases the risk of me becoming infected as people from all over the country will be using it. They want me to go despite any risk. My Dad hasnt got long and wants to see me. If I take infection I would be mortified. Obviously if I had any symptoms I wouldnt go. I cant decide what to do:hmm:
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I'm so sorry your in this situation, I don't really have any advice but just wanted to send hugs 💖
 
piggles 7000 said:
I have a dilemma which wont be unique,I know. I am due to visit my parents in Norfolk on Sunday.I live in Oxfordshire. My Dad is having palliative chemo for end stage bowel cancer.I have fibromyalgia which in itself isnt affecting my immune system but might make me vulnerable if i become unwell. i will have to do a pee break on the way at a service station which increases the risk of me becoming infected as people from all over the country will be using it. They want me to go despite any risk. My Dad hasnt got long and wants to see me. If I take infection I would be mortified. Obviously if I had any symptoms I wouldnt go. I cant decide what to do:hmm:
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As far as I know, even though you can be infectious before showing symptoms, the time involved between stopping at a service station and visiting wouldn't be enough for anything to happen. Just make sure to take the appropriate precautions, remove out clothing when you get there and wash your hands and you'll minimise any risk, and if he hasn't long left, you'll feel much better about it - I'd class this as being in the 'necessary' category as far as the government advice goes.
 
Thanks. Re the service station, I was worried about accidentally leaving infection on a surface or towel or something, having picked it up from the ss which they are then exposed to later. i may be over thinking this. I will see what the government advice is in the meantime but will probably go.
 
piggles 7000 said:
Thanks. Re the service station, I was worried about accidentally leaving infection on a surface or towel or something, having picked it up from the ss which they are then exposed to later. i may be over thinking this. I will see what the government advice is in the meantime but will probably go.
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The truth is, that however much effort we put in to trying to avoid this, and however much we try and clean, there are always theoretical ways to spread it, so we have to work on probabilities - even the respirators in hospitals don't exclude all particles, they just reduce risk. If you take for example, delivering supplies to elderly relatives, the virus can live on surfaces, but it's a bit bonkers to ask everyone to scrub their food with soap and water, we're just trying to slow it down as much as possible. For your own health though, if it's a chance to say goodbye and he wants you to, I just feel on a human level that you'd benefit from being able to.
 
Lady Kelly said:
Me and my brother have had to have talks with my mum. She has rheumatoid arthritis and has recently come off steroids after a flare up. She is classed as having a weakened immune system but is the manager of a charity shop and is often running the shop alone. She should not be dealing with people face to face. I coached her in a conversation to have with the area manager and said she may need to make a decision over whether she puts herself first or work. When she spoke to the area manager about what the doctor had said she was immediately told not to come in to work, that they will deal with it but they may have a few tasks she can do from home on her laptop. I'm glad she has finally done the right thing and hasn't felt pressured into going on sick leave and statutory sick pay. She will get paid normal pay for at least two weeks now
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Mum was easily persuaded. She doesn't have to worry about work but she never really went far before all of this. End of the road to the local shop is how far she is venturing for the forseeable.

I do worry however that I could still get it & unknowingly pass it on as I'm still at work - unless anything changes on that front. I feel fine, no sign of a cough/temp or anything but anxiety is making me jumpy!
 
piggles 7000 said:
I have a dilemma which wont be unique,I know. I am due to visit my parents in Norfolk on Sunday.I live in Oxfordshire. My Dad is having palliative chemo for end stage bowel cancer.I have fibromyalgia which in itself isnt affecting my immune system but might make me vulnerable if i become unwell. i will have to do a pee break on the way at a service station which increases the risk of me becoming infected as people from all over the country will be using it. They want me to go despite any risk. My Dad hasnt got long and wants to see me. If I take infection I would be mortified. Obviously if I had any symptoms I wouldnt go. I cant decide what to do:hmm:
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I really feel for you. You can get toilets to use in the car, little John I think is the brand. You might not fancy that.
I work with older people and they're often good at accepting mortality, I wouldn't put it off for your Dad's sake as he'd rather see you whatever the outcome. But you have your own health to consider. Good luck deciding.
 
Sar said:
I've put my mum on house arrest. She has no desire to go out anyway at the minite.
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My dad is going to Tesco
Falken said:
As far as I know, even though you can be infectious before showing symptoms, the time involved between stopping at a service station and visiting wouldn't be enough for anything to happen. Just make sure to take the appropriate precautions, remove out clothing when you get there and wash your hands and you'll minimise any risk, and if he hasn't long left, you'll feel much better about it - I'd class this as being in the 'necessary' category as far as the government advice goes.
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I agree.. you have to see your Dad. So sorry you are in this situation xx
 
A bit worrying, my sister who is a home carer for the elderly and people with dementia just called in between houses, my 4yr old nephew has had two ‘incidents’ in the last hour where he’s appeared to not be able to breathe properly :yikes: The school are keeping a close eye on him. He’s still not had a proper diagnosis but we think he’s on the autistic spectrum, have done since he was very young, hates change and gets very upset if things do and apparently they’re packing up lots of things in the class atm with lots of kids not returning after the wknd. So could be a bit of a panic attack etc but very bad timing atm! He’s not had anything similar before, a bit worrying! Him and his big sis are two of the kids allowed to go back with my sister's job but guess we’ll see what happens now. 🤞🤞nothing bad:no:
 
Old malaria drug is being mentioned as a treatment for COVID19.
Trump told the governor of New York City, Andrew Cuomo about the malaria drug and Andrew Cuomo said he wants to be the first in line to receive it for his 4000 New Yorkers with COVID19.
 
Seven7 said:
Old malaria drug is being mentioned as a treatment for COVID19.
Trump told the governor of New York City, Andrew Cuomo about the malaria drug and Andrew Cuomo said he wants to be the first in line to receive it for his 4000 New Yorkers with COVID19.
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Hubby was telling me that he was reading a forum for virologists, and they are surprised why an anti-parasite medication is being tested for COVID-19. It is a virus, not a parasite.
 
anyar.dris said:
Hubby was telling me that he was reading a forum for virologists, and they are surprised why an anti-parasite medication is being tested for COVID-19. It is a virus, not a parasite.
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It’s pretty much all over the news in the US. President Trump and Cuomo talking about it make it more significant.
In France, there was a successful testing completed with malaria drug against COVID.
 
piggles 7000 said:
I have a dilemma which wont be unique,I know. I am due to visit my parents in Norfolk on Sunday.I live in Oxfordshire. My Dad is having palliative chemo for end stage bowel cancer.I have fibromyalgia which in itself isnt affecting my immune system but might make me vulnerable if i become unwell. i will have to do a pee break on the way at a service station which increases the risk of me becoming infected as people from all over the country will be using it. They want me to go despite any risk. My Dad hasnt got long and wants to see me. If I take infection I would be mortified. Obviously if I had any symptoms I wouldnt go. I cant decide what to do:hmm:
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Has you father got a Macmillan Nurse (they are magnificent) to give him support. If so could you contact her to get advice?
 
piggles 7000 said:
I have a dilemma which wont be unique,I know. I am due to visit my parents in Norfolk on Sunday.I live in Oxfordshire. My Dad is having palliative chemo for end stage bowel cancer.I have fibromyalgia which in itself isnt affecting my immune system but might make me vulnerable if i become unwell. i will have to do a pee break on the way at a service station which increases the risk of me becoming infected as people from all over the country will be using it. They want me to go despite any risk. My Dad hasnt got long and wants to see me. If I take infection I would be mortified. Obviously if I had any symptoms I wouldnt go. I cant decide what to do:hmm:
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A horrible situation.
Do what your heart tells you and what you think you can live with in the future.
Holding you in my heart
 
A friend sent me this earlier - it's worth sharing:

Lockdown (poem)
Yes there is fear.
Yes there is isolation.
Yes there is panic buying.
Yes there is sickness.

Yes there is even death.

But,

They say that in Wuhan after so many years of noise
You can hear the birds again.

They say that after just a few weeks of quiet
The sky is no longer thick with fumes

But blue and grey and clear.
They say that in the streets of Assisi
People are singing to each other across the empty squares, keeping
their windows open so that those who are alone may hear the sounds of family around them.

They say that a hotel in the West of Ireland is offering free meals and delivery to the housebound.
Today a young woman I know is busy spreading fliers with her number
through the neighbourhood so that the elders may have someone to call on.

Today Churches, Synagogues, Mosques and Temples are preparing to
welcome and shelter the homeless, the sick, the weary.

All over the world people are slowing down and reflecting.
All over the world people are looking at their neighbours in a new way.
All over the world people are waking up to a new reality.

o how big we really are.
To how little control we really have.
To what really matters.
To Love.

So we pray and we remember that
Yes there is fear.
But there does not have to be hate.

Yes there is isolation.
But there does not have to be loneliness.

Yes there is panic buying.
But there does not have to be meanness.

Yes there is sickness.
But there does not have to be disease of the soul

Yes there is even death.
But there can always be a rebirth of love.

Wake to the choices you make as to how to live now.
Today, breathe.
Listen, behind the factory noises of your panic

The birds are singing again
The sky is clearing,
Spring is coming,
And we are always encompassed by Love.
Open the windows of your soul
And though you may not be able to touch across the empty square,

Sing.
 
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Information from the PM's briefing.

Political

Cafe's, bars, pubs etc instructed to close as soon a practicable tonight and not to reopen tomorrow.
Public told not to attend the above tonight.
Other venues to close soon after.


Economic
Business Loans Start Monday - interest free for 12 rather than 6
Salaries paid for up to 80%, employers should furlough rather than lay off.
VAT deferred until late June, paid by end of year.
National advertising of support available.
Self employed now access Universal Credit at the rate of Statutory Sick Pay
More money for welfare budget to do this
Tax self assessments deferred until next January.
Housing allowance increased to 30% of local market rent.
 
piggles 7000 said:
I have a dilemma which wont be unique,I know. I am due to visit my parents in Norfolk on Sunday.I live in Oxfordshire. My Dad is having palliative chemo for end stage bowel cancer.I have fibromyalgia which in itself isnt affecting my immune system but might make me vulnerable if i become unwell. i will have to do a pee break on the way at a service station which increases the risk of me becoming infected as people from all over the country will be using it. They want me to go despite any risk. My Dad hasnt got long and wants to see me. If I take infection I would be mortified. Obviously if I had any symptoms I wouldnt go. I cant decide what to do:hmm:
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A normal small drinks bottle with a plastic filter will do in a pinch as I know from when I had to improvise once! I know that it is not great and may require some wiggling around. Have a plaid with you for privacy purposes and something plastic to put on the seat before trying. But it may help you avoid the public toilets.

It is so tough when all your dad wants is to see you one more time before he dies... But in view of circumstances it is a massive ask. And it is extremely tough to say no. :(

I feel for you! My mother is coming up to 80 this summer back in Switzerland in one of the harder hit areas - I won't be able to attend her 80th birthday, may never see her again and won't be able to attend her funeral... :(
 
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