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Hi @JackJack1 - thank you!
Please bear with me re the logistics as I am about to commence the next round of treatments for the girls so will probably not be back on tonight.
- I will look into this and reply tomorrow
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Hi @JackJack1 - thank you!
Please bear with me re the logistics as I am about to commence the next round of treatments for the girls so will probably not be back on tonight.
- I will look into this and reply tomorrow
xx
Thank you - I will look again tomorrow then and sort out payment then. I am really pleased I have the chance to help in some small way. You are doing an amazing job.
 
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I do apologise @Davey-cavy

It was not my intention to cause distress to you or any other members on this Forum.
Rest assured that Beanie is in a much better place than she was 7 days ago despite what you may think from the current photo.

Sarcoptic manage is about the most shocking condition (both visually and auditory) a guinea pig can ever suffer if it is not properly diaganosed and treated by a cavy savvy vet. And it gets worse before it gets better.
Sadly there are all too many threads on here of people who have trusted their vets for a diagnosis (whatever the illness) and because the vets have little experience of guinea pigs, the poor pig suffers.

The fact is, Chopsticus consulted his local vet to no avail and (in desperation) found this forum and posted for help.
Help has been given (at no small emotional cost to himself by agreeing to surrender his pigglies) and it has (hopefully) saved the lives of these pigglies.

I have endeavoured to be to be very careful about the piccies I post in this situation because
a) I firmly belive there shouldn't be any condemnation of Chopsticus as,at all times, I believe he has acted in good faith for his guineas
b) I didn;t wish to distress members un-neceessarily resulting in (a) above

Rest assured - the photo of Beanie above shows just how much she is improving (but might only be recognised by those with experience of treating this condition)

Hope this helps address your concerns...if you have any questions then please PM me
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Oh god. I didn't mean it offended me or I was distressed by seeing it. I'm sorry if you thought i was upset by your post. It just distressing the poor little piggy got into and is in this state. I'm so pleased you have taken on this little pig and her sister and are giving them the urgent care they require. I take my hat off to you. Well done and I hope it's a speedy recovery for the piggys. Also well done @Chopsticus for doing the right thing and asking for help on here before handing them over for treatment.
 
No worries @Davey-cavy

A single post on a public forum, no matter how nicely intended, can set off a snowball down a mountain (if you get my drift!)
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@JackJack1 If you have a balance in your Paypal (ie it doesn't take from your credit card) then there is no charge, you just use send gift to friends option :) Pebble I am going to Paypal some money over tomorrow. I can't express enough my admiration for what you are doing, I really hope they both pull through, they couldn't be in better hands than yours :) xx
 
Oh bless her, poor little girl! You are doing a fantastic job Pebble!
 
Thankjs @Poppy'sMum
I think Paypal has changed its site layout . You can select their previous Classic format at the bottom of their page where you do have to tick the friends and family box. With the new site when you go to the send and receive option, you are asked to confirm whether goods and services or family and friends.
 
Despite reading the forum all the time, I completely missed this thread. Absolutely heart-rending stuff, but the way everyone has pulled together to help the owner, support Pebbles and - most importantly - get Dotty and Beanie the best care possible has been tremendously cheering.

I've just donated some of the Dry January money I've saved to support their treatment, and wish everyone involved all the best. You're amazing. x
 
I have just sent a small amount to the Rescue for Dotty and Beanie. I hope their recovery continues to progress. I just wish I could send more.
 
@Pebble I have just sent a small donation as well, thank you so much for helping these piggies & for all your wonderful advice on the forum, you've helped me so much (So many phone calls) with my piggies I feel it's the least I can do :hug:x
 
I sent a few shillings aswell Pebble ( and yes, it is who you think it is)

glad they are on the road to recovery
 
I'd just like to thank everyone who has sent (or promised) a few shillings for these girls to their Paypal address
[email protected]
I think you are given the option to add a message/reference when you make payment - so if you would like me to confirm receipt - please include your forum name in the message.
So far payments have been received from CD, PB, JE and JC.

Just to clarify, the girls are currently residing here with me. Glynneath GPR (which is in Wales!) have been providing invaluable telephone support.

Beanie is booked into the vets tomorrow for a check-up and possibly another injection. Currently she only has one open wound - the rest are all healing nicely and the scabs are dried and falling off. We will also be reviewing/revising the current treatment of her skin in respect of sprays/bathing etc to start counteracting the scurf/dry skin and fungal issues.
She managed to wriggle free of the front part of her jacket this afternoon but the dressings etc have prevented any further damage despite the fact there has been a lot of audible scratching (the jacket has a little bell on it!). She clearly prefers her blue jacket to her purple one! She is eating well.

Dotty has taken a long time to adjust to her new surroundings..which has caused me some concern. However I'm delighted to report that today she decided to climb on top of the cardboard box hidey and is a now a wheeking participant of the guinea pig chorus in the next room when veggies are in the offing. She seems particularly responsive to Rudy, a dapper middle-aged un-neutered boar, who is currently single having lost his partner Peter recently. (Unfortunately Rudy has a rather embarassing personal problem so I'm not sure that letting love blossom between these two would be a good idea!)

All going in the right direction still......
 
I sent a small donation the other day, sorry it's not more. It's good to hear things seem to be moving in the right direction for the piggies.
 
Hi Pebble
Can you confirm you got my donation? Not sure if PB is me or not, as this is my husbands initials and it is out of his bank account for Paypal.
I have checked Paypal and it has been deducted so it should be there. I did put a message on there from JackJack1.
 
I'd just like to thank everyone who has sent (or promised) a few shillings for these girls to their Paypal address
[email protected]
I think you are given the option to add a message/reference when you make payment - so if you would like me to confirm receipt - please include your forum name in the message.
So far payments have been received from CD, PB, JE and JC.

Just to clarify, the girls are currently residing here with me. Glynneath GPR (which is in Wales!) have been providing invaluable telephone support.

Beanie is booked into the vets tomorrow for a check-up and possibly another injection. Currently she only has one open wound - the rest are all healing nicely and the scabs are dried and falling off. We will also be reviewing/revising the current treatment of her skin in respect of sprays/bathing etc to start counteracting the scurf/dry skin and fungal issues.
She managed to wriggle free of the front part of her jacket this afternoon but the dressings etc have prevented any further damage despite the fact there has been a lot of audible scratching (the jacket has a little bell on it!). She clearly prefers her blue jacket to her purple one! She is eating well.

Dotty has taken a long time to adjust to her new surroundings..which has caused me some concern. However I'm delighted to report that today she decided to climb on top of the cardboard box hidey and is a now a wheeking participant of the guinea pig chorus in the next room when veggies are in the offing. She seems particularly responsive to Rudy, a dapper middle-aged un-neutered boar, who is currently single having lost his partner Peter recently. (Unfortunately Rudy has a rather embarassing personal problem so I'm not sure that letting love blossom between these two would be a good idea!)

All going in the right direction still......

Great to hear they are improving, no matter how small the steps. It is lovely when they start making a noise, showing they are picking up after being so poorly. It is brilliant news! Hope they continue on the recovery road.
 
I am sorry I picked this time to be tardy. Being relieved of the piggies has given me a chance to realize how poor my own health is.

It looks like I may be able to afford the full cost or most of it so please do not worry too much just yet.

They like a bit of dandelion weed with their grass the most. A little bit of chickweed and clover aswell. All these were readily available where I picked grass.
They also used to have access to carrots and cucumbers as often as they wanted them.
These 2 do not have much of a sweet tooth but they do like a grape, a little melon or some defrosted sweetcorns and will eat any of those from hand.

They weren't used to being cuddled but they were quite used to letting me know what they like to eat.
 
The 2nd time I took Piggysus to PDSA regarding the skin damage he had much worse problem on the face than Beanie. Face right between the eyes were so heavily damaged the edge of his eye socket was like a thread. Any more damage the eyelid would have been splitted. Their vet saw that still just said "bath more often".
 
I've sent over a small donation, sorry it isn't much, i'll send some more to support when I get paid :)
 
The 2nd time I took Piggysus to PDSA regarding the skin damage he had much worse problem on the face than Beanie. Face right between the eyes were so heavily damaged the edge of his eye socket was like a thread. Any more damage the eyelid would have been splitted. Their vet saw that still just said "bath more often".

Such awful advice from the vet. :( its a good thing you had asked on here so we were able to help your pets survive! I'm amazed the vet couldn't recognise they should have been tested for mange immediately - didn't they offer any kind of treatment at all?
 
I'd just like to thank everyone who had made a donation and especially @Chopsticus who has been very generous.

Today's update;
Well as is often the case with mites - until the life cycle is completely and utterly broken, you sometimes feel you are going backwards!
It's coming up to two weeks since the girls had their first mite treatment and, if I posted photos, you would probably think there has been no improvement at all and that the treatment isn't working. Well the good news is that it IS working, as compared to 14 days ago the girls are much more comfortable and have far less wounds/scabs - the mite load is being seriously reduced.....but until all the mites and eggs are gone they will continue to scratch and create new wounds.

The mite life cycle is anything from 2-14 days so it is about this time that the last of the original eggs are hatching and the doremectin can start to do its stuff killing the developing and adult mites. (Eggs are resistant to treatment). Dotty had her second injection last week and Beanie had another (third) doramectin injection yesterday.
So hopefully, in another 14 days, things should start to visibly improve for the girls.

Beanie's scabs for the most part have all healed/fallen off apart from a small scabby bit underneath the jacket Although it is still irritating her, Vet felt the jacket/dressings could stay off and the skin be allowed to air. Unfortunately on the drive back home she self-mutilated again (same area as before so looks like this is a hypersensitive area - hopefully not permanent ) so dressings and jacket are firmly back on! Vet agreed to keep spraying her with F10 and was pleased that a couple of days ago she also had her first spray of the antitfungal dip imaverol. The crustiness on her skin associated with a secondary fungal infection has now all but disappeared

Vet does not want to give the girls any more steroids (its contraversial in pigglies and whilst relieving the itching during the acute phase when treatment irist starts, over a longer period of administration it can actually slow down healing and the skin becomes paper thin) So we have discussed other types of skin treatment to help alleviate the itching. Dotty's bathing will continue at weekly intervals (as will Beanie's daily spraying mentioned above to keep infection at bay)...but I will let you know which of the new ones discussed yesterday are effective for our little baldy Beanie once we have tried them and seen the results.

The girls are also now on a different painkiller - buprecare - instead of tramadol as vet thinks this may prove more effective for the type of pain caused by the mites.

Finally on a husbandry note: it's worth mentioning that I am completely changing/cleaning their cages every day to prevent stray mites harbouring in the bedding or hay and re-infecting by laying more eggs. I attend to my own pigs first before I don gloves and a plastic apron to treat the girls in a different quarantine room....and I then bung all my clothes in the washing machine afterwards. I am also treating all my own pigs with ivermectin spot-on at weekly intervals as a precautionary measure.
 
Not at all. I have said from the start I meant to pay for this and I just did enough thinking to realize £150 isn't the full cost but it is still ongoing so we will see how it goes.
There is no way I could clean their habitat everyday. I cannot thank you enough.
To those interested yes PDSA vets did dispense 2 medicines. 1 for internal use and 1 for washing. Although the labels have been washed off. And they did also decided against use of steroids with the same reason piggysus. Although earlier in the year when I took Ginny there they gave her a bit of steroids.
 
Not at all. I have said from the start I meant to pay for this and I just did enough thinking to realize £150 isn't the full cost but it is still ongoing so we will see how it goes.
There is no way I could clean their habitat everyday. I cannot thank you enough.
To those interested yes PDSA vets did dispense 2 medicines. 1 for internal use and 1 for washing. Although the labels have been washed off. And they did also decided against use of steroids with the same reason piggysus. Although earlier in the year when I took Ginny there they gave her a bit of steroids.

You lost two piggies? I'm so sorry to hear that :( I'm not really knowledgable enough about veterinary practices, but I'm sure that especially after the loss of two piggies they really should have known how to treat properly for mange mites. Would it be worth reporting back with what they had and how it should have been treated? Maybe they can learn from it.
 
I'd just like to thank everyone who had made a donation and especially @Chopsticus who has been very generous.

Today's update;
Well as is often the case with mites - until the life cycle is completely and utterly broken, you sometimes feel you are going backwards!
It's coming up to two weeks since the girls had their first mite treatment and, if I posted photos, you would probably think there has been no improvement at all and that the treatment isn't working. Well the good news is that it IS working, as compared to 14 days ago the girls are much more comfortable and have far less wounds/scabs - the mite load is being seriously reduced.....but until all the mites and eggs are gone they will continue to scratch and create new wounds.

The mite life cycle is anything from 2-14 days so it is about this time that the last of the original eggs are hatching and the doremectin can start to do its stuff killing the developing and adult mites. (Eggs are resistant to treatment). Dotty had her second injection last week and Beanie had another (third) doramectin injection yesterday.
So hopefully, in another 14 days, things should start to visibly improve for the girls.

Beanie's scabs for the most part have all healed/fallen off apart from a small scabby bit underneath the jacket Although it is still irritating her, Vet felt the jacket/dressings could stay off and the skin be allowed to air. Unfortunately on the drive back home she self-mutilated again (same area as before so looks like this is a hypersensitive area - hopefully not permanent ) so dressings and jacket are firmly back on! Vet agreed to keep spraying her with F10 and was pleased that a couple of days ago she also had her first spray of the antitfungal dip imaverol. The crustiness on her skin associated with a secondary fungal infection has now all but disappeared

Vet does not want to give the girls any more steroids (its contraversial in pigglies and whilst relieving the itching during the acute phase when treatment irist starts, over a longer period of administration it can actually slow down healing and the skin becomes paper thin) So we have discussed other types of skin treatment to help alleviate the itching. Dotty's bathing will continue at weekly intervals (as will Beanie's daily spraying mentioned above to keep infection at bay)...but I will let you know which of the new ones discussed yesterday are effective for our little baldy Beanie once we have tried them and seen the results.

The girls are also now on a different painkiller - buprecare - instead of tramadol as vet thinks this may prove more effective for the type of pain caused by the mites.

Finally on a husbandry note: it's worth mentioning that I am completely changing/cleaning their cages every day to prevent stray mites harbouring in the bedding or hay and re-infecting by laying more eggs. I attend to my own pigs first before I don gloves and a plastic apron to treat the girls in a different quarantine room....and I then bung all my clothes in the washing machine afterwards. I am also treating all my own pigs with ivermectin spot-on at weekly intervals as a precautionary measure.

Good to hear they are progressing - you are doing a brilliant job.
 
You lost two piggies? I'm so sorry to hear that :( I'm not really knowledgable enough about veterinary practices, but I'm sure that especially after the loss of two piggies they really should have known how to treat properly for mange mites. Would it be worth reporting back with what they had and how it should have been treated? Maybe they can learn from it.

Excellent points .............................but maybe conidrered forn a later date

x
 
Just sent a few pennies, hope you got it ok? I've never used paypal this way before, lol.
Get well little piggies! x
 
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