Please Read - Re: DrizzlesPiggies

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♥KimmiesGuineas♥ said:
But I didn't do it! It might have been my IP address but it wasn't me! I do give good advice! I know guinea pigs! So WHY would I ruin it ALL?!

:'( :'( :'(
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Kimmiesguineas if it really is not you than I know whats happend, you're keylogged, which means somebody watching you're every botton you press even a full stop. which means somebody could be logged onto your IP address causing this problem because they know you like this forum
 
is it not possible to 'clone' ip addresses? How do hackers get away with so much? can you 'hide' behind someone else's information?
 
♥Ali-loves-piggies♥ said:
♥KimmiesGuineas♥ said:
But I didn't do it! It might have been my IP address but it wasn't me! I do give good advice! I know guinea pigs! So WHY would I ruin it ALL?!

:'( :'( :'(
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Kimmiesguineas if it really is not you than I know whats happend, you're keylogged, which means somebody watching you're every botton you press even a full stop. which means somebody could be logged onto your IP address causing this problem because they know you like this forum
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If she had a trojan on her machine it would be a different IP address that would have come up
 
I'll ask my kid brother if he or his friends did it. no one hates me in the house. hopefully it was my brother/friend trying to be funny and going too far.

I'm not lying and I swear I'll do everything I can to find out, but it wasn't me. :'(

From everything I've posted on here I'm hurt that nobody believes me :'(
 
I don't think anybody thought that Kimmie could have been keylogged. It's a high possibility, i mean ANYBODY on earth with the internet can be keylogged.

Did any admins/mods think of this? The site i admined for had a person that was keylogged. We adviced them to do a COMPLETE wipe of their pc. It worked :D
 
cavy said:
is it not possible to 'clone' ip addresses? How do hackers get away with so much? can you 'hide' behind someone else's information?
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thats basically what keylogging is, somebody watching your eveymove on your IP address, so they can send watching your everymove on what you do etc etc, which means they could be doing this!
 
I'm shocked, but still finding it hard to get to grips that it could be Kimmie :-\ she's been on for quite awhile now and always ALWAYS been lovely and quick to help, i just don't undersand :-\ Something is really strange here...... it has to be a third party doesn't it?
I certainly hope that this can be sorted quickly and that the air cleared.
 
All the activity logged from her IP address cannot be down to keylogging etc.... I am lucky that I have admin tools so I can see it all in black and white.

It really is so sad that someone we loved and trusted abused us in this way and still is not being honest....

I ask again for people to be truthful before this reaches the point of no return.
 
♥Ali-loves-piggies♥ said:
cavy said:
is it not possible to 'clone' ip addresses? How do hackers get away with so much? can you 'hide' behind someone else's information?
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thats basically what keylogging is, somebody watching your eveymove on your IP address, so they can send watching your everymove on what you do etc etc, which means they could be doing this!
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Keylogging is a trojan - it logs what keys you hit and what you type and sends it someone else... If you enter account details etc etc it logs this and sends them to the other person - but if they logged into the forum using those details it still would come up with a different IP address...
 
Keylogging is a trojan - it logs what keys you hit and what you type and sends it someone else... If you enter account details etc etc it logs this and sends them to the other person - but if they logged into the forum using those details it still would come up with a different IP address...
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Thanks for telling me what it is O0
 
SweetEdge said:
♥Ali-loves-piggies♥ said:
cavy said:
is it not possible to 'clone' ip addresses? How do hackers get away with so much? can you 'hide' behind someone else's information?
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thats basically what keylogging is, somebody watching your eveymove on your IP address, so they can send watching your everymove on what you do etc etc, which means they could be doing this!
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Keylogging is a trojan - it logs what keys you hit and what you type and sends it someone else... If you enter account details etc etc it logs this and sends them to the other person - but if they logged into the forum using those details it still would come up with a different IP address...
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Could be two things then, a hacker hacked into her IP hiding his/her info, and keylogging at the same time, cause how else is the person meant to know she comes on here?
 
starshine said:
All the activity logged from her IP address cannot be down to keylogging etc.... I am lucky that I have admin tools so I can see it all in black and white.

It really is so sad that someone we loved and trusted abused us in this way and still is not being honest....

I ask again for people to be truthful before this reaches the point of no return.
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Them tools come in handy eh!
Gosh the amount of times I had to use them on my forum SEEESH! I was wearing them out :p
 
the webpage could be saved on favs or under history on the comp,or she left the page open but logged out
 
I've been working and now I find there's all this to catch up on! I've read the whole thread and it doesn't sound good. I hope all becomes clear one way or the other. It's a situation I have never heard of before (but then I lead a sheltered life!) Why would anyone do this?
 
Right now I dont post often but I am a computer expert, a geek if you will... I do a lot of internet work and know a lot about IP, viruses etc etc... I have personally checked all the information that the form has to offer, IP address, times, usernames and many other things...

Firstly the facts... It is impossible for anyone else in the world to steal or use your IP address, IMPOSSIBLE... a hacker cant do it, a virus cant do it. They are absolutley unique to the household or businesses internet account and property. They can come from one or numerous computers in a household. The only was this can have been done is from the house of the member in question, if a hacker was involved the hackers IP address would be logged. In this case there is just one IP address constantly for 2 members! IP addresses are fool proof they log everything you go on, what time etc... they are the type of things used to catch sex offenders and used in court cases as evidence as there is nothing that can tamper with them!

We have no reason to target anyone... the facts do not lie... they cannot! So we can only go by the evidence and what we have is showing that...

- Two members have one IP address
- There has been accout switching back and forth within minutes/seconds of each other (too close to be coinsidence)
- They have never been online at the same time

Now everyone put yourself in our situation, this is your forum and you find someone with two account and one IP posting awful things on your forum! Looking at the facts above what would you do in your honest opinion, because I am hating looking at this and I wish there was a way out of it but honestly I cannot see one...

Any questions ask me
 
lukey said:
Right now I dont post often but I am a computer expert, a geek if you will... I do a lot of internet work and know a lot about IP, viruses etc etc... I have personally checked all the information that the form has to offer, IP address, times, usernames and many other things...

Firstly the facts... It is impossible for anyone else in the world to steal or use your IP address, IMPOSSIBLE... a hacker cant do it, a virus cant do it. They are absolutley unique to the household or businesses internet account and property. They can come from one or numerous computers in a household. The only was this can have been done is from the house of the member in question, if a hacker was involved the hackers IP address would be logged. In this case there is just one IP address constantly for 2 members! IP addresses are fool proof they log everything you go on, what time etc... they are the type of things used to catch sex offenders and used in court cases as evidence as there is nothing that can tamper with them!

We have no reason to target anyone... the facts do not lie... they cannot! So we can only go by the evidence and what we have is showing that...

- Two members have one IP address
- There has been accout switching back and forth within minutes/seconds of each other (too close to be coinsidence)
- They have never been online at the same time

Now everyone put yourself in our situation, this is your forum and you find someone with two account and one IP posting awful things on your forum! Looking at the facts above what would you do in your honest opinion, because I am hating looking at this and I wish there was a way out of it but honestly I cannot see one...

Any questions ask me
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Must explain why me and mum have the same IP, I always thought the IP was in the computer :o Must be the rooter than roots the internet to the computer then, am I right?
 
its the router\ISP that assigns your IP - we have 3 machines in our house and our external IPs are the same - one IP per household
 
Yep, when I click on your username IP, it comes up...

82.xx.2x5.x Pumpkinpiggie, ♥Ali-loves-piggies♥

For Kimmie it comes up...

76.xx.3x.1xx ♥KimmiesGuineas♥, DrizzlesPiggies
 
Also, like both me and Kate have said, if we were not 100% sure, we wouldn't have posted this. We are just as shocked as everyone else is!

We noticed it yesterday but gave it a while to keep an eye on both Kimmies and DP - It confirmed our suspicions leading us to ban DP. When we banned the account, KimmiesGuineas came online then within seconds of logging out, DP tried logging in but a ban message was shown - I can see ALL the times of when DP has tried logging in and these times match those of KimmiesGuineas.
 
But what if its a wireless connection that has no password ? ie someone sitting outside your house picking up your connection
 
Ive just logged on again and read the while post and I'm really shocked. I agree that the facts are there, but still cant beleive Kimmie would do that? Good luck Ellie, must be a difficult situation for you :(
 
squeakypigs said:
Also, like both me and Kate have said, if we were not 100% sure, we wouldn't have posted this. We are just as shocked as everyone else is!

We noticed it yesterday but gave it a while to keep an eye on both Kimmies and DP - It confirmed our suspicions leading us to ban DP. When we banned the account, KimmiesGuineas came online then within seconds of logging out, DP tried logging in but a ban message was shown - I can see ALL the times of when DP has tried logging in and these times match those of KimmiesGuineas.
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Well as you say those times then well we have to go by the evidence, very shocking

Even my hubby said it can be done but who would want to hijack someones piggy forum they would go for something more sinister wouldnt they
 
theyd prob do it because they dont like the person,if thats the case then theyre sick >:(
 
beautifulcat83 said:
I do doubt someone who is in the wireless range would happen to log into the guinea pig forum at the same time as Kimmie (or just after etc)
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I do it was just a thought that came to mind thats all
 
Also, DP was banned at

Kimmie started receiving the message " Sorry DrizzlesPiggies, you are banned from using this forum!" 16 times before she mentioned anything today about getting the ban messages. She posted today at 07:31:33 pm saying she was getting ban messages for DP AFTER I had posted that somebody on our forum was infact DP - She knew we had figured it out and thats when Kimmie came up with an explanation of a virus - which as Lukey has said, it CANNOT be a virus.
 
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