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Few days ago one cat attacked my 2 years old guinea pig. He was in antibiotics for 3 days and I was syringe feeding him. After that he started slowly eating grass and leave. But then he stopped eating grass, hay and green leaves. He is only eating fruits, vegetables and pallets. I have given him everything: probiotic, digestive enzymes but he don't have any interest in grass hay and green leaves. Can anyone please tell what problems he is having. What can be the solution. How he can again eat grass and green leaves.
 
I’m sorry to hear this.

Pleaae do have him seen by a vet again. Three days of meds may not have been enough, he may be in pain etc.

Make sure you have switched from the routine weekly weight checks and that you are instead weighing him each morning while he is unwell. This is the only way to ensure he is getting enough fibre - either via independently eating hay or in this case that you are syringe feeding him enough to keep his weight stable.
You need continue syringe feeding him while he is not eating hay for himself.

I hope he is ok


All About Syringe Feeding and Medicating Guinea Pigs with Videos and Pictures
Weight Monitoring and Management
Weight Loss Explained: BMI, Weighing, Poos and Feeding Support
Signs of Pain
 
I have tried syringe feeding. I have grinded hay and grass and tried to give him. But he is not eating. He is throwing away the grass paste from his mouth as if he doesn't want to eat it. Actually I'm from India, odisha and here vet don't have any idea about these small creatures. Some vets are saying he has eaten wrong antibiotics. The antibiotic which is not recommended for guinea pigs.
 
I’m sorry to hear he won’t eat anything.
I’m not sure what recovery feed product you can get in India but the usual product is Oxbow Critical Care. The emergency alternative to that is mixing their normal pellets with warm water and making it into a paste and the syringe feeding that to. Poorly piggy.
The guides I linked in explain syringe feeding and the importance of weighing him every day further

What antibiotic was he given?
 
This was the antibiotic the vet prescribed for him. He was a local vet but today I contacted to another vet , he said these antibiotics are not for guinea pigs
 

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Oh gosh I’m so sorry to say that amoxicillin (or any antibiotic containing penicillin) is toxic for guinea pigs so you may well now be seeing the effects of poisoning and that is why he won’t eat.

The second vet you spoke to sounds to be a bit more knowledgeable (the fact they knew penicillin products cannot be given to piggies) so I would contact that vet again and ask then if there is anything they can do to help your piggy

Guinea Lynx :: Dangerous Medications
 
You’ve said he’s eating his pellets. Sometimes we suggest adding warm water to those and syringing that. Weigh him every day at the same time. If he has lost weight then feed him more mushed pellets that day.

What injuries did he have from the cat attack? Is he on any pain medication?
 
I’m sorry to say all you will be able to do is keep him comfortable, offer him food if he will take it and see how things go but sadly prepare that penicillin is very unsafe and can kill guinea pigs (it destroys the gut bacteria - causing severe diarrhoea, loss of appetite).

Is he moving about?
Or is he lethargic and clearly unwell.

The guide below I’m afraid is not a nice thing to have to link in, but it may help you if he deteriorates

Wiebke

Thread 'Is My Guinea Pig Dying?'

1 Life or death emergency – Can my piggy be saved?
- Contacting a vet clinic at all times and link to life and death emergencies list
- What to do if I cannot access vet care instantly?
- The need to save up for emergency vet access
2 Is my guinea pig dying?
- Be honest with yourself
- Multiple organ failure (i.e. a natural death)
- List of signs that your guinea pig could be dying
- What can I do for a dying guinea pig...
 
funny_piggy said:
This was the antibiotic the vet prescribed for him. He was a local vet but today I contacted to another vet , he said these antibiotics are not for guinea pigs
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Hi and welcome

HUGS

I am so very sorry. You are clearly trying your best and that is unfortunately all you can do right now. My fingers are very firmly crossed.

Amoxillin is penicillin, which can be fatal for rodents like guinea pigs. Please stop the antibiotic immediately. :(

Please bookmark these two links below to show any vet you see and double check at home before you give any medication as a safety net in the future. If you know other piggy owners, then please let them know.
Guinea pigs and other pet rodents don't feature on a general vet's curriculum, or only in a very, very minor way. They have only become a more popular pet in many especially Asian or Middle Eastern countries over the last 10-15 years. This does cause problems everywhere, especially in countries where there is not a central veterinary database for medications with a safe prescription range, side effects or warnings if not suitable for the various species.

Lists of dangerous and safe medications for guinea pigs
Guinea Lynx :: Dangerous Medications
Safe medications: Guinea Lynx :: Medications

I am very sorry for linking this guide here into your thread. It deals with how to spot when a very ill piggy has crossed the line of no return and is dying, what you can do and what to brace for on both sides of the divide so you won't feel quite as helpless and overwhelmed. As a mainly UK based community we are here to support you as much as we can.

Try to concentrate on being there for your beloved piggy. In your love and care you are not failing them. The rest are things that you could not foresee or prevent, and that are therefore not in your control.
Wiebke

Thread 'Is My Guinea Pig Dying?'

1 Life or death emergency – Can my piggy be saved?
- Contacting a vet clinic at all times and link to life and death emergencies list
- What to do if I cannot access vet care instantly?
- The need to save up for emergency vet access
2 Is my guinea pig dying?
- Be honest with yourself
- Multiple organ failure (i.e. a natural death)
- List of signs that your guinea pig could be dying
- What can I do for a dying guinea pig...
 
If you have other piggies, you might be able to give him poop soup if he will take it. You make it from a newly pooped faeces pellet from a healthy piggy, soak for a few minutes and then try to syringe feed him the fluid. It could help to replace the healthy gut bacteria in the sick piggy. Good luck, I am sorry to hear this has happened ❤️
 
Guys the thing is he is eating when I'm syringe feeding him 😭... He is not eating on his own .. but when I'm syringe feeding him he is eating, yes! I'm so sad ... I don't know when he will eat on his own or not. I'm ready to feed him entire his life. I love him so much, he is my baby.
 
funny_piggy said:
Guys the thing is he is eating when I'm syringe feeding him 😭... He is not eating on his own .. but when I'm syringe feeding him he is eating, yes! I'm so sad ... I don't know when he will eat on his own or not. I'm ready to feed him entire his life. I love him so much, he is my baby.
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All you can do at the moment is feed him to keep him stable until he hopefully feels better and eats for himself. Good advice given above about the poop soup.
 
funny_piggy said:
What is a poop soup ?
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Poop soup is live microbiome transfer - soaking just produced poops from a second piggy in water for five minutes and then syringing the bacteria laden water to the poorly piggy. However it’s not going to do anything to help with penicillin poisoning in this case.

All you can do is continue syringe feed him every two hours and give him whatever he will take each time and see whether the damage from the penicillin is survivable.
 
Poop soup =

FREE: Live gut microbiome transfer (‘Poo Soup’)
The best of all probiotics is actually free and at hand as long as you have a healthy guinea pig companion, who is not on any antibiotics or other strong medication themselves. It sounds a bit gross but it is actually not as bad as it sounds. Key is that the transfer is made quickly with absolutely fresh poos since the microbiome will die off very quickly.
Put the heathy companion into a clean carrier with a little food of their liking; eating always triggers pooing. Check very regularly.

Once you have 3-7 totally fresh poops, place them into a very small dish with water and leave to soak for few minutes until the water starts discolouring. Immediately pull up 1-3 syringes of the water and give them to the ill piggy. The whole process should not take any longer than 5 minutes between the poo drop (ideally less) to allow live healthy tailor-made guinea pig microbiome to reach the gut while still alive. The quicker you are, the more effective the procedure is. Throw the rest away and clean the dish and the syringe. It only works with the freshest of poops.

Correctly made, ‘poo soup’ can be as or even more effective than any commercial products because it is tailor-made. It also mimics natural 'poop stealing' behaviour in recovering guinea pigs (bum mining their mates). You can give it up to three times daily but always totally freshly made - giving dead microbiome is counterproductive.

You can use 'poo soup' in combination with other conventional probitic products and also enriched emeraid brand recovery formula.

I hope this helps.
 
I've got no advice to share but wanted to send my support. Dealing with a sick guinea pig is so stressful and tiring. It is obvious that you love your piggy very much and you're trying your best to do everything you can to help him. I do hope his appetite returns soon.
 
I’m really sorry, but we can’t recommend anything as we don’t know what is wrong with him.
Do note that guinea pigs should not really have any drops put in the ears.
 
funny_piggy said:
I need some help from you guys my guinea pig ear is also very much injected it has puss inside one ear .. I will take him to vet but if anyone can recommend any drop for him . Plssss ... 😭
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He will need to see a vet about that unfortunately. Show the vet the list of safe medications for guinea pigs. Good luck. Did the cat hurt the ear or is it a separate issue?
 
Guys today day down to my guinea pig ear , it's swallow and puss in inside the ear. Tomorrow I will take him to the vet again. Do anyone know why this happened: swallow below the ear with puss 😔😭 inside his ear.
 
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