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Lymphoma last days now

I’m so sorry you’ve lost beautiful Ginger, what a fighter she was ❤️ I’m so sorry you had to witness so much, it’s horrifying to see and I feel for you, I saw my Reggie passing years ago and it totally broke my heart.
You gave Ginger a brilliant life and she was incredibly loved and well cared for, try and remember that through the tough times along with all your happy memories :hug:Massive hugs xx
Sleep tight Ginger you amazing little girl ❤️xx
 
I'm so so sorry to hear of your loss. Ginger was so very loved and has carried that with her over the rainbow bridge.
It is truly awful when the time comes for them to leave us, but please do believe that you gave her a lifetime of love and care.
Thinking of you and sending love at this sad time. 💕
Enjoy the bridge gorgeous Ginger! 🌈
 
Thank you everyone for your messages of love, reassurance and support.

It was a tough few days at work for me but it did provide a distraction from the pain as well.

We're both very sad, miss her and wish we could cuddle her again. But it would never be enough as we never want to say goodbye. With both Ginger and Leia it was hard to leave their little bodies at the vets. I could have stayed there for hours talking to them and holding them. You never want to let them go and it was very hard to leave especially with how quick it happened. But we know their piggy spirits were already gone and it was just their bodies :(

We speak to them sometimes and the main thing I tell them is that I love them, will always love and miss them and that I would have looked after them forever if they were able to stay. :'(

That's my biggest thing I get held up on.. that I would have had them forever if I was allowed and always do everything to make them happy. And although they were happy, safe and looked after, and now at peace not having know any pain or fear, it is us who are here mourning their loss. I didn't want them to go but knew they couldn't help it. We all get old, sick at some point and death is inevitable. It's the circle of life. But in our culture death is not a celebration of life or something we are all exposed to. I hope I can start to change my perspective over time. I do think that they lived out their amazing piggy lives, I'm grateful to have had the light/joy/happiness that they brought to my life and their passing means that when we are ready we can help other piggies to have amazing lives. And I think that's a blessing to look after animals. They're one of the best things in this world along with nature. Yes we gave them so much but they gave us so much in return. We were blessed to have had each other and are still blessed with memories which in time will be happy and not painful/sad.

I've spoken to both Simon and the local vet who reassured us we could not have done anything more or better for either of them. That Ginger went quickly and peacefully and she would not have been aware of what was happening. It was just hard for us to see. They also explained the extremely quick rigor mortis and it's helping me to let those images go and try to remember how she was before. Although when I think of her I still see the boney ill Ginger instead of the chubby healthy one before the cancer. But I don't have any photos of after she started losing weight and in time I think I'll let that go too. When I think of Leia now I forget she had a bad eye and a lump on her face towards the end.

I'm trying not to let guilt eat me up. The one I'm stuck on is that I need to prepare for this promotion interview and I only have this weekend to do so. Because I was doing my application all day on Ginger's last day and barely saw her I still feel guilt and sorrow over that. That 20 minutes before she passed, she wasn't running to my bf with the salad but at the other end of the cage looking out to where I was. I feel incredibly guilty that she might have been looking for where I was right before she had to go. I did go in and call her a silly pig because the salad was the other way and stroked her head. My bf put some salad in front of her and she starting eating. I returned to the office to continue working. If I had known I would have spent all day with her. Sat there and just watched her or held her. People say but you couldn't have known. But there were clues that day that she was not right and it was getting closer.

And tears are streaming down my face while I type this. I've felt numb the past couple of days. How's it day 4 since we left us?! I have cried several times but not the intense painful emotion that I feel I need to get out. Writing here is always cathartic and I appreciate this forum so much.

Instead I picked her up when I saw she was collapsed. She was struggling to hold herself and I knew it was the end so I put her on my chest to comfort her as she struggled. Within a minute of getting a big super soft blanket to put her on, she went completely floppy. By the time I put her on the blanket I had to position her legs and use the blanket around her to support her. She was still kind of supported with her head up but she wasn't there anymore. After the little fits and running to heaven on her side I tried to position her back into laying but had to lay her head down as it couldn't hold up anymore. She lay there taking her last breaths as we stroked her gently and told her to please go now, it was okay. As her breathing slowed right down we put her back in the cage so Oreo and Nugget could see their Ginger one last time as she was leaving. They came up and looked from a distance before going into the house and not coming back out.

After leaving her at the vet we brought back the little bed we'd taken her in and put it in the cage. The others would not come out of their house for ages but eventually Nugget went up to the bed and sniffed it a lot. It must have smelt like Ginger just before and after she passed. Nugget looked like she was trying to figure things out. She went and looked around the cage before retiring into a tunnel and just sitting there. Oreo, who was with Ginger and Leia since babies didn't come out to sniff the bed for a long time. Eventually she walked by it from a short distance and looked at it. She looked like she was looking for Ginger before she returned to the house. They had about a day and a half where they would barely come out and we had to put some salad in the house which they ate but slowly. Thankfully, they're out and about and nomming again with the vigour piggies do.
 
The cage seems so empty now with only two of them instead of four. Obviously they eat half as much as well which is weird for us as we always had to give them so much when they were a herd of four. We're struggling especially because Leia and Ginger were the more active ones who did more things. They also always came up to us when we were by the cage for head rubs and to see if we had food. We used to have four piggies run to us wheeking whenever we went in the kitchen or rustled anything by accident. Now, Nugget comes out silently and waits but Oreo with her bad hearing and constant napping doesn't and you have to go find her and put it in front of her nose. We love Oreo and Nugget but it's not the same. We know they're older than they used to be and less active but there's a lot less interaction and movement in the cage now. When there were four there was always one or two doing things and interacting with each other. Oreo and Nugget do snuggle sometimes but the cage seems so quiet and empty now. Especially when they're both in different hidies.

So already we're thinking a little bit about getting them a new friend or two. Although we're not ready. It is too painful right now and we need to grieve for Ginger (and Leia still). We want to wait because we don't want to feel like we're trying to replace Ginger and Leia and I feel a part of it is missing them so much and how the herd was. But I think we need to get to a point where it is just happiness to get more and not tinged with sadness.
We weren't going to because they have each other and we rent a relatively small flat. We thought we would wait until we can get our house maybe. It also feels like the original group is ending and are we prolonging it by almost starting again with new piggies. On the other hand sometimes I think it would have been easier to continue the herd while we have these two because naturally over time older ones will pass and younger ones will grow. I almost think that would be less painful than having a herd all the same age which pass closely to one another.

And if we wait until these two go.. then we would start over with an empty cage. I struggle with that thought because I still remember the day we met our original three and the day I got to take them home and start our first ever piggy journey. We learnt along with them, they things they liked and didn't like, things they'd do, going from a starter cage when they were babies to the C&C cage and huge floor time, popcorns and zoomies which they do very occasionally at their age but nothing like long back when. All the joys and firsts they brought us. How their personalities grew in front of us and their relationships to each other. How extremely close the original three were all the way and then how they welcomed rescued and neglected Nugget into their group faster than I could let her into my heart. How they looked after her and now she's comforting Oreo. Nugget had lost 2 whole herds to traumatic deaths as the sole surviving piggy under the "care" of a neglectful owner. When we got her she was under half her current weight, hair falling out and traumatised. Having known more loss than probably any other piggy she now comforts Oreo as the lone survivor of the original group. Oreo is so soppy she really needs her Nugget.

And I wonder if they need a new friend or two to have more interaction and activity. I hope it would make them more active and happy although their personalities are quieter, I know they're not as depressed now. Or is it us thinking more about us and how the cage makes us feel? I think would Oreo be sad still over Ginger and Leia... would she now like new friends. Or is that me thinking she'll feel like a human... I know they welcomed Nugget and were chewing at their cage trying to reach her. I feel like piggies welcome new piggies into their group.

If we did get new ones at some point it would be like starting that journey again with new piggies and I don't think I'm ready for the journey with my old ones to end or be moved on from :( Even though I love Nugget. I haven't got the bond with her as I did the original three who I raised from babies. I try not to feel bad about that. My bf says he loves her just as much. I guess we all have different relationships and stronger bonds with some than others. As much as I think I'd like to get new ones, especially if they're younger so I can develop that bond with them again, I'm struggling to let Leia and Ginger go.

I know it's early days.. and it's just the conflicting emotions of grieving. I guess I'm looking for happy moments and I know how happy I was when I got these ones and how happy they've made me that I'm trying to find that again. I feel like any piggies we got even if they didn't look like Leia and Ginger would remind me of them. And I'm not ready for new piggies to show me how they're different and develop different relationships with Oreo and Nugget. I guess through writing it all out I've come back to the conclusion that I just want Leia and Ginger back! 😭😭😭
 
How beautiful they were and how they made the group what is was. Everything we went through together. Everything we did together. That we will never do again. It's so bloody painful. That I need to rely on my memory to picture them in those moments that weren't captured on film but just moments between us. I feel like I'll never get these bonds again. They were so special. They were our first ever pets/piggies. I can't move on and leave them in the past. Even though they're the ones who had to leave :( How do I carry on in life without them? With only memories, photos and videos. It's not enough. I don't think I'll ever be as happy as my first herd of piggies made me.

And now I've been crying for two hours since I woke up. And I need to prepare for this interview as much as it pains me right now not to think about Ginger and Leia. I feel like I OWE it to them to be thinking of them. Not doing something else like I'm not loving them and wishing with all my heart they were here. What I would give to have them here again to cuddle them and nuzzle them to my face. But I couldn't deal with the pain of them having to go again.

And I know they don't care... either way you look at it.. if they're just gone and that's it or if they're in piggy heaven. They're free, no pain, no worries, happy. And I wish I could just learn that from piggies. To live in the moment and get on with living. And I'm sure if they are in piggy heaven and looking down at me, they're probably judging me like they always used to if I was taking too long to feed them or do the cage. We always joked that they were giving us side eye and judging our life choices. That we were just their piggy slaves. We really did hold them above all else.
 
Oh Fluffbabies what lovely posts. Anyone who has lost someone close whether human or animal will understand . It is soooo hard and so raw. There is no way to say what to do or not that makes it better. It’s a journey that only you can make. We understand ….and we are here for you but you have to do this your way. You are right …. Ginger and Leia are pain free, happy and playing at rainbow bridge.
Sometimes we put our emotions on our beloved pets but in reality ,of course they do think/ feel differently than we do. You did the best you could for them.Remember the good times, the love you gave and they gave you. To love is also to experience pain. It is painful because we love deeply.
I wouldn’t rush into any quick decisions take your time and you will know what to do.
So distract yourself by preparing for this big job thing and always remember we are here for you ! 🥰
 
Thank you again Roselina. You're so lovely and it's such a help to have others remind you that although it's hard, you're actually doing okay. I've just done a couple of hours cleaning as well which I find has always been cathartic for me. I know it might not be for some! 😝
 
How beautiful they were and how they made the group what is was. Everything we went through together. Everything we did together. That we will never do again. It's so bloody painful. That I need to rely on my memory to picture them in those moments that weren't captured on film but just moments between us. I feel like I'll never get these bonds again. They were so special. They were our first ever pets/piggies. I can't move on and leave them in the past. Even though they're the ones who had to leave :( How do I carry on in life without them? With only memories, photos and videos. It's not enough. I don't think I'll ever be as happy as my first herd of piggies made me.

And now I've been crying for two hours since I woke up. And I need to prepare for this interview as much as it pains me right now not to think about Ginger and Leia. I feel like I OWE it to them to be thinking of them. Not doing something else like I'm not loving them and wishing with all my heart they were here. What I would give to have them here again to cuddle them and nuzzle them to my face. But I couldn't deal with the pain of them having to go again.

And I know they don't care... either way you look at it.. if they're just gone and that's it or if they're in piggy heaven. They're free, no pain, no worries, happy. And I wish I could just learn that from piggies. To live in the moment and get on with living. And I'm sure if they are in piggy heaven and looking down at me, they're probably judging me like they always used to if I was taking too long to feed them or do the cage. We always joked that they were giving us side eye and judging our life choices. That we were just their piggy slaves. We really did hold them above all else.

Hi!

I am very sorry for your struggles. There is nothing you could have done more for your girls. The soul searching and feelings of failure and guilt are an expression of your strong love and do not reflect your level of care; I hope seeing it like that will help you.

There is unfortunately nothing you can do to speed up the grieving process; it has to run its due course. You grieve as much as you have loved; they are the two sides of the same coin. But if you didn't grieve, you would not have loved.
You will eventually regain both your girls as they were. This will come once you have digested the actual trauma of their loss and their preceding illness, as described in the corresponding chapter of our grieving guide. It just won't happen as quickly as you'd like and is a very sneaky process that happens slowly without you really noticing.
Human Bereavement: Grieving, Coping and Support Links for Guinea Pig Owners and Their Children

If it is any consolation to you, my Gareth was already cold and stiffening up within 5 minutes of his passing at home 10 days ago. Because of their huge personalities, we tend to forget that they are just very small animals with a very fast metabolism, living life on fast forward. :(

If you really struggle and in view of your upcoming interview, please contact the Blue Cross on the platform you feel most comfortable with (they now offer a range of free services for pet bereavement). The best thing you can do for yourself right now, is to talk it out of your body. It will hopefully help you as much as it has other members in need of some trained and confidential support and help to clear your head and emotions enough to get through your challenge. ;)
Pet bereavement and pet loss

Thinking of you.
 
Thank you again Roselina. You're so lovely and it's such a help to have others remind you that although it's hard, you're actually doing okay. I've just done a couple of hours cleaning as well which I find has always been cathartic for me. I know it might not be for some! 😝
Yes cleaning , keeping busy is a good and in those quiet moments remember the little quirks Leia and Ginger had. All those lovely memories. You are doing so well…. and that’s all you can do every day. We are all supporting you and are here for you ( and your family) 🥰
 
Hi!

I am very sorry for your struggles. There is nothing you could have done more for your girls. The soul searching and feelings of failure and guilt are an expression of your strong love and do not reflect your level of care; I hope seeing it like that will help you.

There is unfortunately nothing you can do to speed up the grieving process; it has to run its due course. You grieve as much as you have loved; they are the two sides of the same coin. But if you didn't grieve, you would not have loved.
You will eventually regain both your girls as they were. This will come once you have digested the actual trauma of their loss and their preceding illness, as described in the corresponding chapter of our grieving guide. It just won't happen as quickly as you'd like and is a very sneaky process that happens slowly without you really noticing.
Human Bereavement: Grieving, Coping and Support Links for Guinea Pig Owners and Their Children

If it is any consolation to you, my Gareth was already cold and stiffening up within 5 minutes of his passing at home 10 days ago. Because of their huge personalities, we tend to forget that they are just very small animals with a very fast metabolism, living life on fast forward. :(

If you really struggle and in view of your upcoming interview, please contact the Blue Cross on the platform you feel most comfortable with (they now offer a range of free services for pet bereavement). The best thing you can do for yourself right now, is to talk it out of your body. It will hopefully help you as much as it has other members in need of some trained and confidential support and help to clear your head and emotions enough to get through your challenge. ;)
Pet bereavement and pet loss

Thinking of you.
Thank you again Wiebke :) That perspective does help thank you :) I am finding writing out on here if helping me so much. Although it's a public place.. maybe it might help someone else in future. I also talked it out with both Simon and my local vet which helped to get a professional opinion which was also a comfort.

I am so sorry about your Gareth! It is a horrible sight and I didn't know it was possible before now. Ginger went floppy again within 20-40 minutes so I know now if it happens to leave them be for a while til they're floppy and then I can say my goodbyes properly without rushing. The vet nurse said it could take 1-2 hours but it was quick for Ginger as the whole process was.

I am so incredibly grateful that Gingie passed when she did.. when we were both home on our day off so we could comfort her and did not find her in her cage like it, which I recognise will inevitably happen with some future piggies. And how she did.. that it was fast and peaceful.
 
((HUGS.)) What you're written is really moving and I can certainly relate. It's obvious how much you loved them and the bond you had with them. It shines through in what you've written.

We lost Hadley, the pig in my avatar pic, in June, and I can relate to how you're feeling. It's really hard not to have her here. She was beautiful and unique and will never come again, and that's sad even if it is the natural order of things. There are times when I see a picture or think about her and still tear up. And I still feel the same about Linney, the piggie we had before her, and all the other little pets I've loved and lost along the way, ever since I got my first pet mouse back when I was 9. I've learned to be more philosophical over a lifetime of having small pets because otherwise the pain of loving and losing them would get so great that I wouldn't be able to have them at all anymore, but it still hurts. They're all precious, unique lives... but what an honor to be there for all those days, to be a constant presence for their entire lives. And I'm thankful to have had them, even if I miss them so much. ((HUGS)), and take care of yourself as you grieve. There is no way past it other than to go through it. And hopefully, with time, the happier memories will be more present and the harder memories will be less present. It's kind of an act of courage to take on any pet, I think... you know, going in, that you will have to say goodbye to them, that they will one day break your heart by going. By we keep opening ourselves to that pain because all the other days with them make it worth it.
 
((HUGS.)) What you're written is really moving and I can certainly relate. It's obvious how much you loved them and the bond you had with them. It shines through in what you've written.

We lost Hadley, the pig in my avatar pic, in June, and I can relate to how you're feeling. It's really hard not to have her here. She was beautiful and unique and will never come again, and that's sad even if it is the natural order of things. There are times when I see a picture or think about her and still tear up. And I still feel the same about Linney, the piggie we had before her, and all the other little pets I've loved and lost along the way, ever since I got my first pet mouse back when I was 9. I've learned to be more philosophical over a lifetime of having small pets because otherwise the pain of loving and losing them would get so great that I wouldn't be able to have them at all anymore, but it still hurts. They're all precious, unique lives... but what an honor to be there for all those days, to be a constant presence for their entire lives. And I'm thankful to have had them, even if I miss them so much. ((HUGS)), and take care of yourself as you grieve. There is no way past it other than to go through it. And hopefully, with time, the happier memories will be more present and the harder memories will be less present. It's kind of an act of courage to take on any pet, I think... you know, going in, that you will have to say goodbye to them, that they will one day break your heart by going. By we keep opening ourselves to that pain because all the other days with them make it worth it.
You've said it all beautifully Freela ….everyday is worth it for these adorable little animals
 
Thank you everyone for your messages of love, reassurance and support.

It was a tough few days at work for me but it did provide a distraction from the pain as well.

We're both very sad, miss her and wish we could cuddle her again. But it would never be enough as we never want to say goodbye. With both Ginger and Leia it was hard to leave their little bodies at the vets. I could have stayed there for hours talking to them and holding them. You never want to let them go and it was very hard to leave especially with how quick it happened. But we know their piggy spirits were already gone and it was just their bodies :(

We speak to them sometimes and the main thing I tell them is that I love them, will always love and miss them and that I would have looked after them forever if they were able to stay. :'(

That's my biggest thing I get held up on.. that I would have had them forever if I was allowed and always do everything to make them happy. And although they were happy, safe and looked after, and now at peace not having know any pain or fear, it is us who are here mourning their loss. I didn't want them to go but knew they couldn't help it. We all get old, sick at some point and death is inevitable. It's the circle of life. But in our culture death is not a celebration of life or something we are all exposed to. I hope I can start to change my perspective over time. I do think that they lived out their amazing piggy lives, I'm grateful to have had the light/joy/happiness that they brought to my life and their passing means that when we are ready we can help other piggies to have amazing lives. And I think that's a blessing to look after animals. They're one of the best things in this world along with nature. Yes we gave them so much but they gave us so much in return. We were blessed to have had each other and are still blessed with memories which in time will be happy and not painful/sad.

I've spoken to both Simon and the local vet who reassured us we could not have done anything more or better for either of them. That Ginger went quickly and peacefully and she would not have been aware of what was happening. It was just hard for us to see. They also explained the extremely quick rigor mortis and it's helping me to let those images go and try to remember how she was before. Although when I think of her I still see the boney ill Ginger instead of the chubby healthy one before the cancer. But I don't have any photos of after she started losing weight and in time I think I'll let that go too. When I think of Leia now I forget she had a bad eye and a lump on her face towards the end.

I'm trying not to let guilt eat me up. The one I'm stuck on is that I need to prepare for this promotion interview and I only have this weekend to do so. Because I was doing my application all day on Ginger's last day and barely saw her I still feel guilt and sorrow over that. That 20 minutes before she passed, she wasn't running to my bf with the salad but at the other end of the cage looking out to where I was. I feel incredibly guilty that she might have been looking for where I was right before she had to go. I did go in and call her a silly pig because the salad was the other way and stroked her head. My bf put some salad in front of her and she starting eating. I returned to the office to continue working. If I had known I would have spent all day with her. Sat there and just watched her or held her. People say but you couldn't have known. But there were clues that day that she was not right and it was getting closer.

And tears are streaming down my face while I type this. I've felt numb the past couple of days. How's it day 4 since we left us?! I have cried several times but not the intense painful emotion that I feel I need to get out. Writing here is always cathartic and I appreciate this forum so much.

Instead I picked her up when I saw she was collapsed. She was struggling to hold herself and I knew it was the end so I put her on my chest to comfort her as she struggled. Within a minute of getting a big super soft blanket to put her on, she went completely floppy. By the time I put her on the blanket I had to position her legs and use the blanket around her to support her. She was still kind of supported with her head up but she wasn't there anymore. After the little fits and running to heaven on her side I tried to position her back into laying but had to lay her head down as it couldn't hold up anymore. She lay there taking her last breaths as we stroked her gently and told her to please go now, it was okay. As her breathing slowed right down we put her back in the cage so Oreo and Nugget could see their Ginger one last time as she was leaving. They came up and looked from a distance before going into the house and not coming back out.

After leaving her at the vet we brought back the little bed we'd taken her in and put it in the cage. The others would not come out of their house for ages but eventually Nugget went up to the bed and sniffed it a lot. It must have smelt like Ginger just before and after she passed. Nugget looked like she was trying to figure things out. She went and looked around the cage before retiring into a tunnel and just sitting there. Oreo, who was with Ginger and Leia since babies didn't come out to sniff the bed for a long time. Eventually she walked by it from a short distance and looked at it. She looked like she was looking for Ginger before she returned to the house. They had about a day and a half where they would barely come out and we had to put some salad in the house which they ate but slowly. Thankfully, they're out and about and nomming again with the vigour piggies do.
This is very moving and lovely 🥰
 
Sending hugs to you, I know how heartbroken and empty you are feeling, so sorry. At some point tears will give way to happier thoughts and memories of your special girls x
 
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