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can AC cause breathing problems / URIs?

It's not the individual but the bacteria which become resistant, so as long as her issues are fully treated I don't think she should have an issue (to the best of my knowledge). This is why it's so important to complete courses of abx and make sure the bacteria have all gone... Of course judicious use of of abx is advisable as with everyone else!

Edit to say that I think they can become resistant to families of abx, but we have a lot of options (for now) so there should be something they can use, even if they need to do a culture to check which ones will be most effective.
 
my anxiety definitely makes everything
Piggies&buns said:
Have you tried putting your ear to her body? This may give you a rough idea of where the congested sound is coming from. If it is from the chest then it is certainly the right thing to be getting her seen. From the nose is generally not a sign of a URI but still always advisable to get a vet check done
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i tried this this morning but couldn’t hear anything..
 
poggle said:
It's not the individual but the bacteria which become resistant, so as long as her issues are fully treated I don't think she should have an issue (to the best of my knowledge). This is why it's so important to complete courses of abx and make sure the bacteria have all gone... Of course judicious use of of abx is advisable as with everyone else!

Edit to say that I think they can become resistant to families of abx, but we have a lot of options (for now) so there should be something they can use, even if they need to do a culture to check which ones will be most effective.
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right i see! i just thought after too much use you become resistant!
 
If you can’t hear anything in the chest/lungs then this is a great sign.

Sometimes a piggy can get a bit of hay or irritant of some sort in their nasal canal which causes them to make a bit of a funky sound.
This, in my case, lasts between a few hours to a day at most.
As she has no other symptoms aside from the noise then I would maybe just keep your eye on it for a bit. Perhaps putting a bowl of boiling water near the cage to try and alleviate symptoms.

A URI generally consists of more than a grumble, such as discharge from the eyes and nose, dull eyes, frequent sneezing etc.
But this doesn’t rule out a URI in your case.
Guinea Lynx :: URI

I have a boy who was diagnosed with a “smaller nasal canal”, who every now and again makes a sort of rumble and grumble from his nose for a couple hours to a day or two, and it never causes him any harm.
We tried antibiotics but it made no difference and the noises were too frequent to continually give antibiotics. We switched to fleece and his grumbles come far less often.

If he started to show other signs, I would definitely take him in for a check up.
I am not saying to not take her, as it is good to get anything out of the normal checked by a vet, just sharing my experience with such.
 
piggl said:
If you can’t hear anything in the chest/lungs then this is a great sign.

Sometimes a piggy can get a bit of hay or irritant of some sort in their nasal canal which causes them to make a bit of a funky sound.
This, in my case, lasts between a few hours to a day at most.
As she has no other symptoms aside from the noise then I would maybe just keep your eye on it for a bit. Perhaps putting a bowl of boiling water near the cage to try and alleviate symptoms.

A URI generally consists of more than a grumble, such as discharge from the eyes and nose, dull eyes, frequent sneezing etc.
But this doesn’t rule out a URI in your case.
Guinea Lynx :: URI

I have a boy who was diagnosed with a “smaller nasal canal”, who every now and again makes a sort of rumble and grumble from his nose for a couple hours to a day or two, and it never causes him any harm.
We tried antibiotics but it made no difference and the noises were too frequent to continually give antibiotics. We switched to fleece and his grumbles come far less often.

If he started to show other signs, I would definitely take him in for a check up.
I am not saying to not take her, as it is good to get anything out of the normal checked by a vet, just sharing my experience with such.
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thanks for your reply, yes i know they can sometimes get things stuck in the airways but with my anxiety i assume worst case scenario and just freak out..
 
update**
so dellas been checked over, nothing alarming going on with her breathing, everything sounds as it should. she has been prescribed baytril 0.3ml twice a day just incase its the start of a URI however i’m considering leaving it tonight to see how she is tomorrow seeing as she got the all clear from the vet and the baytril is more a precaution.. i just don’t want to give her a course that isn’t needed, i’m really in two minds😞
 
i know nobody can tell me what to do, but am i being irresponsible possibly putting the baytril on hold? i’m just thinking as there was no problems with her breathing, no other signs of a URI if its worth just seeing how she gets on as it does seem it could be just a block in the airways.. or could i be putting her in danger holding off? how quickly do other symptoms come on?
 
Why was the baytril prescribed if she got the all clear?
 
i think the baytril was given as a precaution incase it was a URI that i had just caught early.. but because there are no other symptoms and her breathing sounded good I'm really considering maybe leaving it tonight and seeing how she is tomorrow.. surely if it is a URI, more symptoms would present themselves? as much as i obviously wouldn’t want her to be going without if she did need them, maybe this is the only way to test if it’s definitely a URI?
 
another member has also just said, if if was a URI, being put on the same ABs / dose she was on when it first started developing isn’t going to make a difference anyway! which i didn’t even think about!
 
Another member of what?
I would not advise going against the vets prescription, but I do understand your worry. Perhaps you could give them a call and state your concerns?
 
piggl said:
Another member of what?
I would not advise going against the vets prescription, but I do understand your worry. Perhaps you could give them a call and state your concerns?
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sorry of this forum!
i phoned the vets and they said i don’t have to start the meds and can see how she gets on if I’m worried.. if she has got a URI, how dangerous is it for me to not treat straight away? is it even worth the risk? baring in mind she has no other symptoms.. am i putting her in danger because of my anxiety regarding AB resistance?
 
URI's can go downhill quickly, but you say she is showing no signs of this, aside from the grumbling?
Is this still ongoing?

Do you have any videos of this sound. Or could you get any?
If I was in your position, I would leave it and see how she is in the morning, as she has been giving the all clear and is only making a slight grumbly sound.
The issue is I would not want to advise anything that then caused an issue in the future.

When you listen to her nose vs her chest can you tell a decent difference?
 
piggl said:
URI's can go downhill quickly, but you say she is showing no signs of this, aside from the grumbling?
Is this still ongoing?

Do you have any videos of this sound. Or could you get any?
If I was in your position, I would leave it and see how she is in the morning, as she has been giving the all clear and is only making a slight grumbly sound.
The issue is I would not want to advise anything that then caused an issue in the future.

When you listen to her nose vs her chest can you tell a decent difference?
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yes this is why i’m so worried, i would never forgive myself if i decided to not go with meds and she suffered for it..

its not a constant noise she’s making, you can only really hear it when she’s munching on her veggies, will be feeding in a minute so ill try to get a video!

of course i completely understand and wouldn’t blame anyone for the advice they have given me.. i just like to hear what others would do if in my situation, it helps me to make a decision having a bit of reassurance on things, what do you mean a difference please?
 
piggiemummy03x said:
yes this is why i’m so worried, i would never forgive myself if i decided to not go with meds and she suffered for it..

its not a constant noise she’s making, you can only really hear it when she’s munching on her veggies, will be feeding in a minute so ill try to get a video!

of course i completely understand and wouldn’t blame anyone for the advice they have given me.. i just like to hear what others would do if in my situation, it helps me to make a decision having a bit of reassurance on things, what do you mean a difference please?
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If she is only making the noise when munching on her veggies, I would be even more inclined to believe she has a slight irritation going on somewhere.
Did you try the boiling water next to the cage at all?

You should be able to hear a difference in the sounds. When one of my boys had pneumonia it sounded like slight sloshing about.
If you listened to her lungs/chest you should be able to hear whether it sounds clear or sounds raspy, if it sounds raspy then it would be more likely a URI.
There was an obvious difference between a URI and something irritating/stuck in the nasal canal, in my experience. I have found that once you have checked the chest is clear, when you put their nose up to your ear you can almost hear the moment where the grumble is coming from.

This is obviously very much my experience sided, but as she has been given the all clear, I would be more inclined to "allow" (definitely not the word I am looking for, but I can not for the life of me think of what I want to say) you to make a decision based off what you find/think is right.
 
piggl said:
If she is only making the noise when munching on her veggies, I would be even more inclined to believe she has a slight irritation going on somewhere.
Did you try the boiling water next to the cage at all?

You should be able to hear a difference in the sounds. When one of my boys had pneumonia it sounded like slight sloshing about.
If you listened to her lungs/chest you should be able to hear whether it sounds clear or sounds raspy, if it sounds raspy then it would be more likely a URI.
There was an obvious difference between a URI and something irritating/stuck in the nasal canal, in my experience. I have found that once you have checked the chest is clear, when you put their nose up to your ear you can almost hear the moment where the grumble is coming from.

This is obviously very much my experience sided, but as she has been given the all clear, I would be more inclined to "allow" (definitely not the word I am looking for, but I can not for the life of me think of what I want to say) you to make a decision based off what you find/think is right.
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i haven’t tried the boiling water no.. i listened to her chest i could just hear her heart beat and when i listened to her nose just little puffs of air, have a video I'm going to attach of the noises now while eating veggies..

i have just held her up after eating and i’m sure the noise is coming from her nose!
 
i have just listened to my other video from february and it definitely sounds the same!
 
piggiemummy03x said:
i thought so😩 so does that mean if a piggie became resistant to one, it wouldn’t be all ABs they are now resistant too? only that one? sorry if this is a really stupid question. i’m just concerned as my della has been on antibiotics what feels like her whole life! shes had lots of bladder problems and seems prone to infections so we are never really off ABs for long before she’s prescribed again.. i’m just really concerned one day they may stop working and we won’t have another option…


i don’t believe she has a resistance yet as her course of baytril (finished yesterday) definitely made a difference (smelly wee), I'm just worried for the future and at times like today when I'm going down with a concern as i know sometimes vets will just prescribe a course if a URI is possible to be on the safe side.. but i’m worried about her having them incase its not actually needed but then i’m also worried if she does actually need them going without… i honestly don’t know what to do😭

della is 1 year and 4 months old, so still very young
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Antibiotics come in different classes. Resistancy doesn't automatically cover all classes bacteria become resistant to. I am very sure that your vet is taking this into account when diagnosing.

However, I want to repeat that I am not sure whether you are dealing with resistancy in the first place.
 
Wiebke said:
Antibiotics come in different classes. Resistancy doesn't automatically cover all classes. I am very sure that your vet is taking this into account when diagnosing.

However, I want to repeat that I am not sure whether you are dealing with resistancy in the first place.
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thankyou!
 
Wiebke said:
Antibiotics come in different classes. Resistancy doesn't automatically cover all classes. I am very sure that your vet is taking this into account when diagnosing.

However, I want to repeat that I am not sure whether you are dealing with resistancy in the first place.
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do you know if congestion should be treated with ABs at all?
 
Anything in the nose can really make a sound because can’t really breathe through their mouths
 
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