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Bladder Tumour

Emx93 said:
Thankyou so much 💖 just can't believe it 💔 knew she didn't look right but didn't expect that 🤯 2021 has been one hell of a year 😖
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You’ve had such a tough one, I’m so sorry it wasn’t better news. Hope she’s comfortable and happy with you for a long time yet bless her xx
 
I just had the quote emailed for if we did explorative surgery and biopsy with miss nugget, it's far out of our affordability (would eat the entire vet credit card) and they're pretty sure they can't remove it anyway. Combined with her being small for what's usual for nugget, the risk of spreading if we biopsy and the fact she still has good qol I think we're going to treat palliiatively, I don't want to put her through an op and risk loosing her on the table for low odds of success, I wouldn't pts unless her qol was bad anyway so I'd sooner spend the £££ on decent pain relief if she ever requires more than just metacam 😖
 
I’m hoping that you will be able to keep her comfy and she will have many happy days with you x
 
Emx93 said:
I just had the quote emailed for if we did explorative surgery and biopsy with miss nugget, it's far out of our affordability (would eat the entire vet credit card) and they're pretty sure they can't remove it anyway. Combined with her being small for what's usual for nugget, the risk of spreading if we biopsy and the fact she still has good qol I think we're going to treat palliiatively, I don't want to put her through an op and risk loosing her on the table for low odds of success, I wouldn't pts unless her qol was bad anyway so I'd sooner spend the £££ on decent pain relief if she ever requires more than just metacam 😖
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Sounds like you've weighed up all the pros and cons for Nugget's welfare. Hope she's got many more pain free days.
Can I ask, you mentioning that about the cost of stronger pain relief, is it very expensive? I've not been recommended that before, could be a good idea.
 
Black piggies said:
Sounds like you've weighed up all the pros and cons for Nugget's welfare. Hope she's got many more pain free days.
Can I ask, you mentioning that about the cost of stronger pain relief, is it very expensive? I've not been recommended that before, could be a good idea.
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Thankyou 💖 tramadol is about £95 a month I think xx
 
Ah …..you are thinking of Nugget and how she wants her days to be …. pottering about, pain free, with her friends and just doing what she loves. You are a wonderful piggie hooman and as everyone has said I hope Nugget has many many more days with her hooman family 🥰
 
Very positive nugget update 🎉
She's finally gained a good amount of weight, up to 988g 👏 no more sitting hunched up since we switched to twice daily metacam on Wednesday, seems her happy normal self loving life 💖 so proud of her and so relieved 😌 she has a recheck at the vets 14/10 💖 only issue we've had a couple of times this week is she's weed on herself which isn't usual but other than that very happy!
Since my vets aren't letting people in and have no plans to, would it be unreasonable to ask them to show me how they examine her to feel the tumour in the waiting room so I can better monitor at home?
 
Roselina said:
Ah …..you are thinking of Nugget and how she wants her days to be …. pottering about, pain free, with her friends and just doing what she loves. You are a wonderful piggie hooman and as everyone has said I hope Nugget has many many more days with her hooman family 🥰
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Exactly this! After her ovariectomy she had about 5 or 6 post op checks, lost a load of weight and an emergency vet trip. When the vet mentioned a surgical biopsy and I asked if it could be removed and she said she didn't think so, she could try but even if she could remove it and nugget survived the op it would've likely already spread or would grow back I immediately did not want to do surgery, not to mention she's still - 200g for what's normal for her I didn't want to take the risk of loosing her during surgery or recovery and didn't want to put her through a surgery recovery with low chance of a cure given the metacam is working and she's so happy! If it was an op with good odds of a full recovery it would be different. There's always the niggle of 'what if she would've done fine with the surgery and could've been cured' but i know I would never forgive myself if I put her through that for nothing or we lost her on the table. I'm feeling better about my decision now that I can see such obvious improvement in her with the metacam 💖
 
Aw, so lovely to hear that Nuggat is doing so well, she’s a little fighter x
Isn’t metacam amazing, I sometimes think we all could do with some!
 
Bill & Ted said:
Aw, so lovely to hear that Nuggat is doing so well, she’s a little fighter x
Isn’t metacam amazing, I sometimes think we all could do with some!
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Thankyou she's amazing 💖 it really is, makes me so happy and so much calmer seeing her be her normal self 💗 as long as her today's are happy that is all that matters 💓
 
I've never been so happy 💖 nuggets been for her recheck and they can't feel a lump anymore, they said last time it felt and looked like a 'fleshy golf ball' but now they're thinking it mightve just been a very inflamed bladder and some sludge, while they can't rule out there been a growth on the bladder wall its all very positive, she can stay on metacam and be seen again in 6 months unless we have any problems in the meantime 🎉🎊😁 I can't actually explain how happy and relieved I am 😁 xx
 
Free Ranger said:
That's made my day too! What positive news - well done Nugget x
(That must have been one VERY inflamed bladder! 🤯)
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I know bless her and she only showed intermittent looking uncomfortable and no signs of severe pain she must've been in agony! 😩 Metacam is magic 🎉 I feel like I can breathe again now! Very glad we didn't operate 🎊
 
What great news. I am so pleased for both you and Nugget. ❤️

A similar thing happened with our piggy Mavis (the one in my photo). Our vet was convinced (after an ultrasound) that she had a tumour in her bladder and sent her home with palliative care. As recommended by many people on the forum we started to give her Cystease (as well as her prescribed meds). At her 3 month check-up (which i think the vet was surprised she had made it too) they did another scan and no sign of any tumour. Mavis does have a thickened bladder wall and IC but with a very low daily dose of Metcam and the Cystease she is a happy pig. This was over two years ago and she is now almost 6. It just shows that vets don't always get their diagnosis right.
 
YvonneBlue said:
What great news. I am so pleased for both you and Nugget. ❤️

A similar thing happened with our piggy Mavis (the one in my photo). Our vet was convinced (after an ultrasound) that she had a tumour in her bladder and sent her home with palliative care. As recommended by many people on the forum we started to give her Cystease (as well as her prescribed meds). At her 3 month check-up (which i think the vet was surprised she had made it too) they did another scan and no sign of any tumour. Mavis does have a thickened bladder wall and IC but with a very low daily dose of Metcam and the Cystease she is a happy pig. This was over two years ago and she is now almost 6. It just shows that vets don't always get their diagnosis right.
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That's so amazing to read! What's the dose of cystease please? I'm going to order some for nugget 💗 she's also on a low dose of metacam 😁
 
I dissolve 1 capsule in a couple of mls of water and then give to her in two 1ml doses each day (morning and evening). Its best to mix this the day before you need it as it takes ages to dissolve properly. I make it up in one of those little jam jars you get from cafes/hotels. You can make up a couple of days worth in one jar leave it at room temperature for a few hours and then pop it into the fridge. Hope that Nugget continues to do well.

Mavis weighs 1.3kg and is on 0.2ml of (dog) Metcam twice daily. The vet suggested we stop giving her the Metacam but within two weeks she was squeaking when urinating and had blood in her urine again. So this dose works for her and she is happy, which is the most important thing.
 
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YvonneBlue said:
I dissolve 1 capsule in a couple of mls of water and then give to her in two 1ml doses each day (morning and evening). Its best to mix this the day before you need it as it takes ages to dissolve properly. I make it up in one of those little jam jars you get from cafes/hotels. You can make up a couple of days worth in one jar leave it at room temperature for a few hours and then pop it into the fridge. Hope that Nugget continues to do well.

Mavis weighs 1.3kg and is on 0.2ml of (dog) Metcam twice daily. The vet suggested we stop giving her the Metacam but within two weeks she was squeaking when urinating and had blood in her urine again. So this dose works for her and she is happy, which is the most important thing.
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Thankyou so much 💖 nugget is on cat metacam so a very very low dose but it is working for her and that's what matters 💖 thankyou for the advice I will try that :)
 
Nugget started squeeky weeing and weeing blood again last night, at the worst imaginable time when our car is in the garage and the busses on strike in my area! I was thankfully able to get a phone consultation with the vet and she has contacted Ellie at matlock for some further information and nugget likely has ic! she's been given the OK to have up to 3ml of cat metacam twice a day (she was previously on 0.2ml once a day) though we are trying 0.6-1ml twice a day initially 3ml is the max if she needs it (super great to know though she'll go through a bottle every 2.5 days if she needs that much!) and the cystease too 💗 I'm guessing loosing flower likely triggered a stress flare up! They've given some baytril too just in case and will send a sample of wee off if she's still having problems in 2 weeks but it's likely sterile cystitis 💖
 
Oh poor Nugget - it does sound like an IC flare. Good to hear she can have more Metacam and her cystease.
 
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