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Bladder sludge

piggiemummy03x said:
@Lucy3733 hows your piggle doing?
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Not great. She is still squeaking. It had been less. I don't know if I made it worse by giving her some coriander, but I literally gave one piece in the morning, one in the evening. The vet upped her gabapentin last week to 0.3ml every 12 hours or 0.2ml every 8. I'm going to email the vet again tomorrow. I asked about cartrophen injections and the vet said no 😥. But she did say that we may repeat scans but had said the week before we wouldn't repeat them so maybe she will change her mind.

How is Della?
 
Lucy3733 said:
Not great. She is still squeaking. It had been less. I don't know if I made it worse by giving her some coriander, but I literally gave one piece in the morning, one in the evening. The vet upped her gabapentin last week to 0.3ml every 12 hours or 0.2ml every 8. I'm going to email the vet again tomorrow. I asked about cartrophen injections and the vet said no 😥. But she did say that we may repeat scans but had said the week before we wouldn't repeat them so maybe she will change her mind.

How is Della?
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oh no bless her i’m sorry to hear that, sending lots of cuddles🫶🏻 ah yes possibly? iv cut corriander out now.. how long have you been feeding? bless her, why did they say no to them?
sorry my brain is fried you will have to remind me your girls current diagnosis?

della has been off abs since previous monday (29th may) but stayed on metacam 0.3ml x2 a day.. she had basically been the same (on off crying, some days worse than others) however these last few days actually i have noticed when she’s weeing she’s actually passing even less urine than she has been, there was even a couple of times earlier this afternoon she was crying and trying to wee literally every 10 mins😭… and today her wee is extremely smelly! so we have an appointment booked saturday to see the vet. was going to take her tomorrow but with 5.30 being the only appointment and it supposed to be 28 degrees here, going in a car with no AC, i just couldn’t risk it. our gp (whos unfortunately not in this weekend) vet wanted us to come in for another scan last appointment in a couple of weeks to see if the sludge had improved / worsened, so i will probably book that in while down. i’m really hoping its just a flare up and not another infection😩
 
piggiemummy03x said:
oh no bless her i’m sorry to hear that, sending lots of cuddles🫶🏻 ah yes possibly? iv cut corriander out now.. how long have you been feeding? bless her, why did they say no to them?
sorry my brain is fried you will have to remind me your girls current diagnosis?

della has been off abs since previous monday (29th may) but stayed on metacam 0.3ml x2 a day.. she had basically been the same (on off crying, some days worse than others) however these last few days actually i have noticed when she’s weeing she’s actually passing even less urine than she has been, there was even a couple of times earlier this afternoon she was crying and trying to wee literally every 10 mins😭… and today her wee is extremely smelly! so we have an appointment booked saturday to see the vet. was going to take her tomorrow but with 5.30 being the only appointment and it supposed to be 28 degrees here, going in a car with no AC, i just couldn’t risk it. our gp (whos unfortunately not in this weekend) vet wanted us to come in for another scan last appointment in a couple of weeks to see if the sludge had improved / worsened, so i will probably book that in while down. i’m really hoping its just a flare up and not another infection😩
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Nancy has presumed IC. But she did also wee out a tiny stone a few weeks ago. She's had a clear scan before that. But tbh she does act like she has IC. But before the IC she had some infections.


If it's really stinky it does sound like it might be an infection unfortunately. I can understand why you weren't keen to go out in such hot weather!
 
Also having a brain thingy forgot to answer all your questions 🤣. I tried giving her a piece of coriander morning and evening for two days and it seemed to make it worse. I just feel like they have a boring life now .. I used to feed all sorts of veg and forage etc 😞 while now I stick to exactly the same morning and night.

The vet said it wasn't a miracle cure. I think because the gabapentin worked a bit she was thinking higher dose may work perhaps. She did also change her mind about scans and said maybe she would need one as it's been nearly 2 months since her last one. So perhaps if we have a scan and it doesn't show anything maybe she would reconsider the cartrophen
 
Perhaps she knows that Cartrophen might be an option but doesn't think you're at that stage yet... or it might be that she doesn't have personal experience of it being used in this way? I think I'd want to find out how the vet is thinking. It's not something I know anything about though.

I wonder whether the sludge is making Della more prone to infections. George's stone certainly predisposed him. Has you vet mentioned the pros and cons of a bladder flush procedure @piggiemummy03x ?
 
Lucy3733 said:
Nancy has presumed IC. But she did also wee out a tiny stone a few weeks ago. She's had a clear scan before that. But tbh she does act like she has IC. But before the IC she had some infections.


If it's really stinky it does sound like it might be an infection unfortunately. I can understand why you weren't keen to go out in such hot weather!
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got you, thanks for reminding me! bless her weeing out a stone that must have been horrible😳

yes i’m obviously watching over her today and listening out for squeaks and looking out for wees.. i was maybe considering pushing appointment back to monday so we could just see our GP vet for the scan instead of the stress of going twice etc especially in this heat! but i don’t want to leave it if it seems to be an infection.
 
della has been put on another course of baytril for suspected infection (based on symptoms worsening and the super strong smell!) and have been told to phone our GP vet next week once she’s back with an update on della and to discuss potentially getting her back in for a scan. she did have a feel of her bladder today, which della found uncomfortable bless her but she said she couldn’t feel any stones or anything which i’m hoping means theres definitely not one!
 
piggiemummy03x said:
della has been put on another course of baytril for suspected infection (based on symptoms worsening and the super strong smell!) and have been told to phone our GP vet next week once she’s back with an update on della and to discuss potentially getting her back in for a scan. she did have a feel of her bladder today, which della found uncomfortable bless her but she said she couldn’t feel any stones or anything which i’m hoping means theres definitely not one!
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Do you think the smell is clearing on the baytril?

I've dropped my Nancy off for an emergency x-ray this morning.
 
Lucy3733 said:
Do you think the smell is clearing on the baytril?

I've dropped my Nancy off for an emergency x-ray this morning.
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yes i do believe so! 🤞🏻
oh no really bless her whats the reason for that then has she been getting worse?😪
 
piggiemummy03x said:
yes i do believe so! 🤞🏻
oh no really bless her whats the reason for that then has she been getting worse?😪
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It's a mystery. No bladder stones, squeaking in pain, funny looking urine and a swollen bum. She is on baytril incase she has an infection, a culture has been sent off. The vet has no idea what's wrong. Maybe it's reproductive, she said maybe she has a growth we can't see on a x-ray. Cried loads last night because she was doing so badly and was thinking she needed to be put to sleep. Then today she's wandering around like she's fine 🤦🤦.

How is Della?
 
Lucy3733 said:
It's a mystery. No bladder stones, squeaking in pain, funny looking urine and a swollen bum. She is on baytril incase she has an infection, a culture has been sent off. The vet has no idea what's wrong. Maybe it's reproductive, she said maybe she has a growth we can't see on a x-ray. Cried loads last night because she was doing so badly and was thinking she needed to be put to sleep. Then today she's wandering around like she's fine 🤦🤦.

How is Della?
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oh bless her heart! keep me updated! excellent news about there not being any stones!
you can always send a private message if youd like someone to talk to, i know our girls aren’t going through the same exact same thing but feel we relate on a lot of levels!

della is doing good in herself and i feel her squeaky wees are reducing which is brilliant, got a call with vet on friday to discuss next plan or action! shes still a little smelly but definitely not as strong, i do think it was / is a UTI currently she’s dealing with x
 
piggiemummy03x said:
oh bless her heart! keep me updated! excellent news about there not being any stones!
you can always send a private message if youd like someone to talk to, i know our girls aren’t going through the same exact same thing but feel we relate on a lot of levels!

della is doing good in herself and i feel her squeaky wees are reducing which is brilliant, got a call with vet on friday to discuss next plan or action! shes still a little smelly but definitely not as strong, i do think it was / is a UTI currently she’s dealing with x
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Last 24 hours I've heard no pain squeaking and she's completely being herself. Maybe the baytril is working 😃🎉. It's like she's had a sudden turn around. Tuesday she was lethargic and in so much pain but now she's acting like nothing is wrong.

How is Della?

Ooh I didn't even know you could private message. Thank you, you can totally message me too
 
Lucy3733 said:
Last 24 hours I've heard no pain squeaking and she's completely being herself. Maybe the baytril is working 😃🎉. It's like she's had a sudden turn around. Tuesday she was lethargic and in so much pain but now she's acting like nothing is wrong.

How is Della?

Ooh I didn't even know you could private message. Thank you, you can totally message me too
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omg amazing! fingers crossed she stays this way then! it does just sound like she keeps flaring up to be honest, i’m glad shes better today!

dellas still slightly smelly, on off crying while weeing and in the last few days i’ve noticed some pink / red in colour wee spots.. i’m hoping it’s nothing but only time will tell. phone call with vet tomorrow and will probably be booking in next week!

will do that now!
 
piggiemummy03x said:
omg amazing! fingers crossed she stays this way then! it does just sound like she keeps flaring up to be honest, i’m glad shes better today!

dellas still slightly smelly, on off crying while weeing and in the last few days i’ve noticed some pink / red in colour wee spots.. i’m hoping it’s nothing but only time will tell. phone call with vet tomorrow and will probably be booking in next week!

will do that now!
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Did the vet do a culture to see if baytril would work with that's wrong?
 
It's not always pain-free either if they have to press on the bladder to get pee. I was sure this was the way forward with George and waited him out to get one pee sample in a plastic bowl - then a combination of nerves and his stone meant he peed all over the vet's table the second time and we sucked it up with the syringe... I thought there'd be so much contamination in there but it turned out there was nothing that they could culture at all. However his antibiotics did work on whatever it was lurking in the background.

If you ask for a plastic bottle and syringe to take home you can collect a wee sample there and take it back in yourself to be tested. They will be concerned about potential contamination but our experience was that any bacteria would be something!
 
Free Ranger said:
It's not always pain-free either if they have to press on the bladder to get pee. I was sure this was the way forward with George and waited him out to get one pee sample in a plastic bowl - then a combination of nerves and his stone meant he peed all over the vet's table the second time and we sucked it up with the syringe... I thought there'd be so much contamination in there but it turned out there was nothing that they could culture at all. However his antibiotics did work on whatever it was lurking in the background.

If you ask for a plastic bottle and syringe to take home you can collect a wee sample there and take it back in yourself to be tested. They will be concerned about potential contamination but our experience was that any bacteria would be something!
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oh no that’s horrible😪 she weed on the table last time but vet said she couldn’t use it as its most likely contaminated.. i think she said she will check it for blood however. ill have to ask our vet about this, it’s just a shame we are a bit far out to drop a wee sample off (hour in total there and back) but we will do anything for our girls!
 
update!

spoke to the vet this morning, we have della booked in for a scan monday to see what is going on. if the sludge has worsened, she will be in for a flush, if there is a stone, we will be talking about surgery. hopefully it won’t come to either of these, i just want my della to be better😪
we have been asked to carry on with the baytril (was prescribed for a week last saturday) until monday when we take della to her appointment, i mentioned about feeding lettuce and corriander again to flush her through and she said to re-introduce so feeling better about that!
 
piggiemummy03x said:
update!

spoke to the vet this morning, we have della booked in for a scan monday to see what is going on. if the sludge has worsened, she will be in for a flush, if there is a stone, we will be talking about surgery. hopefully it won’t come to either of these, i just want my della to be better😪
we have been asked to carry on with the baytril (was prescribed for a week last saturday) until monday when we take della to her appointment, i mentioned about feeding lettuce and corriander again to flush her through and she said to re-introduce so feeling better about that!
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If it does come to either of those, you may find your Della back to her old self after the procedure.

It's so stressful isn't it. Specially when you don't know what's wrong. Sending you hugs
 
Lucy3733 said:
If it does come to either of those, you may find your Della back to her old self after the procedure.

It's so stressful isn't it. Specially when you don't know what's wrong. Sending you hugs
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shes had a flush before bless her, shes been through so much! very stressful, thankyou🤗
 
update:
della was due to go for her scan later on this evening however our usual vet has gone home sick and i don’t really feel comfortable seeing anyone else (especially doing a scan!) so have moved her appointment to tomorrow when hopefully our vet will be feeling better and back at work🤞🏻🤞🏻
 
piggieminder said:
I am sorry, that is really not what you need, although your vet can't help feeling ill! I hope the scan can go ahead tomorrow.
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i know😅 really not doing me any favours haha but like you say its not something that can be controlled! i really hope so too.. i don’t know what ill do if shes not in again!
 
vet isn’t in again today😭😭😭 i don’t feel comfortable anyone else doing the scan so iv cancelled that but taking her down as i’m worried about potential URI, what a nightmare my anxiety is so high i don’t know what to do😭
 
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