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Hello everyone. Just wanted to ask people’s advice on back fusion surgery. I’ve been told this week that my chronic back pain won’t go on it’s own so I need to either have surgery or just live with it! Oh my goodness I really don’t know what to do! It’s not easy surgery and the recovery is long but I’m not 50 yet so if it will help me in the long run maybe I should have it while still fit. I’m a bit of a control freak (OCD) and quite anxious so I’m a bit of a worrier. Any thoughts advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
 
My old neighbour had curvature of the spine and had to have each bone in her spinal column joined to the other by a metal rod. She was in hospital for 2 weeks and it took her a year to recover. She was only in her early 40's. If she hadn't had the surgery she would have ended up in a wheelchair. Her movement was very limited afterwards as she couldn't bend forward. If your back pain is really that bad that you have been advised to have back fusion surgery, I would ask a lot of questions before deciding. Is it your whole spine or just a few bones?
 
Hi. Fusing two vertebrae at the bottom. I found out yesterday that I have two birth defects with my spine. I have a crushed disc, a slipped vertebrae but also something else (didn’t understand what he said) that makes the surgery more risky. He also said the pain I have now will get worse as I get older. ☹️. I told him I needed to think it over so I will see him again in a months time. Big decision. I’m so confused.
 
It's a hard decision. Only you can make it. Does it mean that you'll be out of pain after the recovery period?
 
What a tough decision to make.
My suggestion is think about the advantages and disadvantages of the surgery.
Make a decision and then just live with it for a while.
If you feel uncomfortable with it then rethink.
It’s a major decision but only you can make it.
Will hold you in my heart.
 
It's a hard decision. Only you can make it. Does it mean that you'll be out of pain after the recovery period?
Well I would hope so but then they tell you all the negatives and it makes you doubt if you should really have it done.
 
What a tough decision to make.
My suggestion is think about the advantages and disadvantages of the surgery.
Make a decision and then just live with it for a while.
If you feel uncomfortable with it then rethink.
It’s a major decision but only you can make it.
Will hold you in my heart.
Thank you. ❤️
 
Well I would hope so but then they tell you all the negatives and it makes you doubt if you should really have it done.
This is perfectly normal and certainly good to question.
Any major surgery requires a lot of thought.

I had my first knee replacement when I was 34 years old. Given my age at the time I actually had to have psychological counselling (in addition to a myriad of other tests) to make sure I fully understood the long term implications of my 'choices'.

But when it all came down to it I was in constant pain which was ruining my life. In the long term, the solution (knee replacement with a limited life span) may lead to bigger problems (such as above knee amputation after the second replacement) but in the short term my quality of life was rubbish.
I spoke with 3 different surgeons to get 3 different perspectives.
I also spoke to my long term GP.
But ultimately I chose quality of life while I was still able to enjoy it.

The recovery was tough (two kids under 3 made it a little chaotic), but SO very worthwhile. For many years the pain was gone, and even now (13 year later) the pain is less than it once was.

Every day I am thankful that I made the choice to priories the 'now'. No one knows what lies ahead, but if you are suffering every day then you really have nothing to loose.

Now my first replacement is failing, and will need to be redone soon.
Of course I worry that it might be the last replacement they can do (2 is usually the limit), and after that I have less options.
But I still do not regret it - the major surgery has bought me a lot of pain free years.

As I look towards my next major surgery I still feel I made the right choice all those years ago.
 
Sending you big hugs! I can't really offer anything, except to say you shouldn't have to rush into it. I hope you can work out the best way forward for yourself. :)
 
Someone in my life had two back surgeries years ago. It was a long recovery and unfortunately the surgeries did not fix things for her. This was over 20 years ago and I'm guessing surgical procedures have improved significantly since then. I'd encourage you to ask as many questions as needed to understand what the doctors are telling you. Maybe make a list of questions that you can bring to your next appointment. This will help you to make an informed decision. Have you considered joining a support group for others dealing with similar issues (such as chronic pain)?
 
i agree you need to know the advantages and disadvantages for your personal circumstances.Then based on that information you can make an informed discision.i would make alist of questions to ask your orthopeadic specialist.a lamonectomy can be a safe operation.as with all operations the specialist by law has to inform you of any risks.i would ask how many of these operations have been performed,how many are successful,and ask if you can speak to some clients who have had the proceedure performed.it is a big decision, you will be much more prepared if you have the necesary knowledge.i wish you all the best in your quest for better quality of life.xx
 
i agree you need to know the advantages and disadvantages for your personal circumstances.Then basedonthat information you can make an informed discision.i would make alist of questions to ask your orthopeadic specialist.a lamonectomy can be a safe operation.as with all operations the specialist by law has to inform you of any risks.i would ask how many of these operations have been performed,how many are successful,and ask if you can speak to some clients who have had the proceedure performed.it is a big decision,is much more prepared if you have the necesary knowledge.i wish you all the best in your quest for better quality of life.xx

You are right, @eileen. Surgeons have to provide details of their success rates for similar surgeries. I think I’d want to know what percentage are successful.
 
My dad had fusion surgery 15 years or more ago. He had three vertebra fused in his neck. His surgeon had told him he would be completely paralyzed if he didn't have the surgery. Thankfully, he did really well and was only in the hospital for two days and then was sent home. He had a 6 week recovery period of taking it really easy afterwards. The issues he has since the surgery is that he can't turn his head very well; which is problematic when driving through roundabouts. He still gets pain if he stands or sits for too long.

I would ask your surgeon what the issues you could have if you don't have the surgery. Also, I would ask them if all non-surgical options have been exhausted. Find out what the recovery time looks like. When you have your next visit, take a list of questions with you and write down the answers the surgeon gives you. Best of luck for your future!
 
My late father also had a problem with his neck vertebrae in his 60s. It might have been a similar thing to your dad @RedLoredAmazon . He'd had an accident about 20 years previously and we think there was some lasting damage. Turns out the bones were fused and pressing on the spinal cord. Consultant said there was an op to cut sections out of the bone to relieve the pressure and put in pins or plates or something to protect the cord. Sorted. He wouldn't get better (i.e. regain the slight loss of sensation in his feet which had led to the occasional fall) but he wouldn't get any worse. Without it the prognosis was clear: increasing paralysis, walking with sticks, then a chair, then eventually bedbound, then - if he lived that long - organ failure because the spinal nerves are required for the function of the organs. He asked about the failure rate - less than 1% (and mainly because of post-op infection rather than surgical issues). So did he have it? Did he heck.

I don't think even he knew why not but I honestly think part of it was that he couldn't imagine the future. He was also a terrible 'passenger' - he always had to be the one in the driving seat, so to actively choose to do something where he put himself in someone else's hands was not in his nature. Mum was fuming because obviously this meant life would get very restricted and she would end up being his carer, and indeed this is what happened. The Doc was dead right. Years later dad was in hospital on the general ward with a lung infection and the junior consultant suddenly turns up - except now he's the guy in charge. He offered the op again despite the fact that dad was now pretty advanced and, probably because he was in the building anyway and they'd already took his ciggies off him, he said yes (!) It was very straightforward and, as predicted, he got no worse but there was no improvement.

Would I have had the op? Like a shot - for me it was an absolute no-brainer and I told him that quite clearly. I would have trusted the expert sat in front of me when I heard what the future held. It's the NHS - they're not touting for business, they'd quite like it if people stopped getting things wrong with them. But at the same time it's everyone's right to make their own choice and I can respect that. The impact on mum's life was profound though.

I don't know if you have a partner or dependents like children or elderly parents that you might need to figure into your equation - for short term caring and convalescence, as well as any longer term implications. It's also very difficult to take the emotion out of decisions like this. Fear is a big one: fear of surgery, of complications, of actually just making an active choice to change the status quo. Mainly the fear of somehow ending up worse than when you started out... and anxiety warps everything. It might be wise to make a list of your questions and take a trusted companion when you talk about your options so you have an objective ear to help remember what to ask and what they reply. In dad's case he kept talking about the failure rate of about 1% and not seeing that there was 100% certainty of him getting seriously worse by doing nothing. Maybe your main hurdle will be if they tell you that what you're like now is as bad as it'll get - because you know you can already live with that so it makes any step forward seem more of a gamble. Will it get worse? Ask about success rates and also whether there are people who go through the op and perhaps see no improvement but no deterioration either. Does this happen? What would be the main complications and how often do they occur... and how can you minimise this. Also do you fall into any higher-risk category because sometimes it's people who are, say, much older or especially obese or who've had previous trauma that have the dreaded poor outcome. If you delay by 5 years or 10 years will it still be on the table with the same outcome? It might take you a while to process everything and you'll swing one way and the other before the pendulum settles. But one big one is ask your consultant what most other people decide to do in your position because dad's consultant really could not believe it when he refused the op... people normally jumped at the chance. Mum even knew a local guy who'd had it - she saw him a month later bouncing out the supermarket carrying heavy shopping bags. If the vast majority of people your specialist sees who have conditions similar to you decide to go for it that tells you something.

Good luck with your decision x
 
Thank you all so much. Your comments are amazing. I liked the comments about prioritising the now and you don’t know what the future holds. Very true. I have a husband and two lovely kids (19 and 21). So they would all be able to help out after. I think it’s about 6 month recovery. I’ll definitely get a list of questions ready. On a “normal” back the risk of spinal damage is just 1%. But on my back the risk goes up to “somewhere under 10%”. Thanks again everyone. You’ve all been lovely.
 
I’ve started the ball rolling for back fusion surgery. 😬

I made my decision not to have the op. But having tried to live with a bad back this last 2 years I’ve now changed my mind. I’m scared. But I feel it’s better to do it earlier rather than later. It’s a long waiting list though. I hope it’s the right decision 🤞🏻
 
Good luck. I hope all goes well for you. Definitely better to do it earlier rather than later. I've had a few operations over the years and as I get older the recovery time gets longer.
 
Good luck. I hope all goes well for you. Definitely better to do it earlier rather than later. I've had a few operations over the years and as I get older the recovery time gets longer.

Thank you. Yes you’re right. That’s what I’m thinking.
 
It sounds like the right decision because, to be terribly blunt, if your turn rolls around and you bottle out you can always cancel on the spot. They aren't allowed to drag you in! But that doesn't work the other way round... so at this point it's certainly the right thing 😀
Having had a hernia fixed last May I can appreciate the worry and the nerves. Mine was a minor procedure for the surgeon but seemed very major to me. Part of that was because it was an 'elective' procedure. I'd asked to have it done because I thought I wouldn't heal so well when I was older and this thing had got more of a problem. They don't get better on their own. To take our fate into our own hands is one of the scariest things of all x
 
I think you’re making the right decision. My mum has bad hips but is reluctant to have the op for new ones as she has a heart condition and is worried so she is trying to live with the pain. But she’s now struggling to walk so has been on the waiting list for a stress echo to see how her heart would cope under the strain of having the op. She’s been on the waiting list for that for over 12 months but has finally been offered an appointment for this Sunday. If that goes well, she said she may reconsider having hip surgery.

I hope you’re not waiting for too long and that your op goes well when you do finally reach the top x
 
Wishing you all the very best with your surgery and subsequent recovery.

Not the same but my husband had to have surgery on his back some years ago. He was pretty young as well (20s) so not quite comparable.

Hope you get an appointment soon b
 
Best of luck! I had the operation some years ago at only 19 after an injury. Recovery is no walk in the park, but it’s temporary. All of it passes. Living with a stronger healthier back will make each day better for you.

Me and the pigs are sending positive vibes (and wheeks) your way!
 
Wishing you the very best and a big success for your operation. You are bound to feel scared but I think to be pain free will be lovely for you x
 
How scary but with some relief thrown in there too I would imagine. My old neighbour was in the MRI or CT Scanner (can't remember which) for a whole hour! But then she did have to have all her spine pinned. Some chap where I used to work had to have two of this lumber spine bones removed and he could still walk around afterwards. As you clearly feel it is the right thing for you to do I wish you luck and a good recovery.
 
How scary but with some relief thrown in there too I would imagine. My old neighbour was in the MRI or CT Scanner (can't remember which) for a whole hour! But then she did have to have all her spine pinned. Some chap where I used to work had to have two of this lumber spine bones removed and he could still walk around afterwards. As you clearly feel it is the right thing for you to do I wish you luck and a good recovery.
Thank you. I just need to focus on the end result. Not the bit in the middle. 😬
 
Wishing you all the best. Stay positive and focussed on the goal to be pain free. Living in constant pain is so exhausting. Hopefully things will all move swiftly for you from now on.
 
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