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zoe saga continues

which would be better for zoe

  • another scan

    Votes: 1 33.3%

  • urine culture

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • more blood test

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • advice from other vets

    Votes: 2 66.7%
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Mary you are a wonderful mummy to all your fur babies and you do a fantastic job looking after them, I understand if you feel the need to give your other babies to a good home, but give it some time, giving them away will hurt as much as having them go to the rainbow bridge, you are just making the inevitable happen quicker.

That said if you need to do it for the sake of your health, mental or physical, I am sure no-one here will judge you, we all know how hard it is losing a beloved baby.

When Bubble died I didnt want another pig but oh convinced me to get Fugly and even though I know he will break my heart I wouldnt be without him.

Again do what you feel is right, but give yourself time to grieve and think, you never know Zoe may have years left yet.

Even if you have no piggies stay with us here, we are your friends and you will always have our support.
 
Oh don't go Mary, you've done so much for Zoe and all your pets, a lot more than most piggy owners. We all want to help and we will support your decisions. I agree with everything M has said x
 
Mary, sad decision of leaving the Forum. All your furries are still alive, why give up now?
I can understand the heartache this all causes you and Ian but there is always light at the end of the dark tunnel, even though sometimes the tunnel seems endlessly long.
Please don't give up now you've got a lot of support here and whatever the outcome.....no-one can judge one person without having walked a mile in their shoes.
As I do not know your personal circumstances I respect your decision and wish you and Ian all the best for your future....who knows we might see you back here another time.
Chin up and think positive!

Lots of cuddles,
Mackpossum - Marita
 
thank you to the few that have replied, the tears are running down my face, i am not sure if i can post these, but will if i have done wrong i am sorry.
please do me a favour and read these links mainly the ones by anakie
she lost her son,he was killed in adelaide, appartently after his son died of cot death he couldn't cope so he left home and went to adelaide and was helping the homeless in adelaide. some jerk on oztion accused sharron for not telling the whole story, people like that make me so mad. it is none of their business, haven't they got a heart, compassion?anyway here are the links to the posts http://www.oztion.com.au/Community/topic.aspx?t=social&tid=244840

http://www.oztion.com.au/Community/topic.aspx?t=social&tid=245686

http://www.oztion.com.au/Community/topic.aspx?t=social&tid=246593
read those, it is truly heart breaking and how dare people be so cruel? hugs to you, when i hear from the vet with the blood test results i will forward it onto you. i know our kids were only babies when we lost them, but it brings back so many memories of losing our children, and sharron/anakie is so like me abused as a child, scared of people hurt people before they hurt you, i just feel for the pain she is going through and it has hit me hard. and now with zoe being sick again i just feel like i am suffocating. i will think about whether to stay or to go, i just wish zoe could have a month or 2 in perfect health. thanks again to the ones that replied. sorry if i have broken any rules with the links.
i am NOT giving up on zoe whilst she is willing to fight and i will be there for her in everything she needs. thanks again. O0
 
Oh Mary this is so sad for that poor lady :'( :'( :'( How cruel whilst she's at her lowest to have people give her a hard time :'( :'( She's sounds a fighter and a battler i wish her all the very very best :smitten:

I'll wait for your pm or for you to post, but don't be gone for long love i'd miss you too much :'( :'( :'(
 
Mary,
I'm so sad that you are deciding to leave the Forum, but at the end of the day it is your decision, and you must follow your heart. However, please don't think anyone here will judge you, or be disappointed in any decisions you make. I have admired just how hard you are fighting for your little Zoe, and I think you are a wonderful Mum to all your "pets" (and that seems such an inadequate word).
If you decide to take a break for a while, I hope you might feel strong enough to return and catch up with us all again ... we may be spread far and wide, but we're your friends.
Sue
 
Mary please please don't leave - you've been a wonderful mum to all your fur babies, they have so much to thank you for. You have tried harder with zoe than any pig owner I know, and you have done every test possible for poor little zoe. You have also done well with missy. I wish pets lived as long as us but sadly they don't, and vet science isn't as widely researched as human science, so sometimes the vets miss something. Also pets can't tell us that something is still wrong even after we've treated them.
After I lost one of my baby pigs I was so upset I cried for maybe 2 days and just felt awful. But i got up and looked after my other pets, and even (after time) got more pigs, because they needed a good home. I know this is what my baby pig would've wanted, for me to look after others and to look after her sister even though I felt like crap.
I have to go to work now but I will be back on later, you can always pm me if you like x
 
Oh Mary, please don't go...I'd like to think as forum members we care about each other as well as all our furry friends, and we care about you! Even if you feel you need a break for a while don't lose touch in the long run. You care so much for your pets, it shines through your messages. :smitten:
 
I have pm`d you.Hope you will decide to stay on the forum.If you feel you need a break,why not sign off for a few weeks,then come back
 
Mary I have e-mailed you, you know my thoughts. :) Hope you are ok. :smitten:
 
thank you all so much for caring about me, zoe and missy, for now glynis and duke have talked me into styaing, and really i need your advice, which would be better for zoe? another scan to see if there are any tumours or a urine culture to see if there are any bad cultures? i have no idea how to do a poll but would love to hear your ideas.
blood works have shown that renal failure isn't the problem, as she is not losing hair/fur then liver disease is ruled out too. so it is looking like zoe either has kidney disease or maybe cancer or something as simple as an asorption(sp) problem.
after her surgery she had soft poops so for 3 months she was on hay and grass diet, and she was putting on weight, but then she stopped eating the grass and hay and her poops went yellow and dry so we introduced veggies to her diet and this is when she started to lose weight first 20 grams in 5 weeks, then 35 grams in a week, then 25 grams in a week, the last one she lost after we had spent a week feeding her via syringe and normal feeding every 4 hours.
our vet has ordered some C&C aniseed from oxbow which has to come from queensland so should be here in south australia around friday.
for now am syringe feeding her mashed pellets with apple puree which she doesn't seem keen on but she loves to eat for herself.
the vet has tested her urine and all is normal though with every new sample the urine is more diluted. she wants us to get another sample and the vet wants to culture it and see what bacteria this has. it is either this or another scan, she had scan in january for her ovaries and mass growing on her uterus on the outside. it is this mass which has a long name which the vet is going to do research to see if it would spread to other parts of zoe.
so at present we have to work out whether a urine culture or another scan would be the best way to go with zoe. it breaks our hearts to see zoe losing weight, for me she is my friend, my family, as OH does go out and have friends, for me my animals are my world O0 and zoe and i have become so close over the last 6 months with all the syringe feeding, and test and nursing. another problem vet has found is the bottom of zoe's feet rear are dark pink any advice please.
so sorry folks but for now you are stuck with us from south oz. thank you everyone. :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
You know my feelings on you leaving, and you know how THRILLED we both are woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
I find Duke's feet are a darker red but i was told not to worry about it... maybe Mary or somebody could put some light on this love?
Mary next time you need the CC i can get it for you.........i can get it to you within 2 days as my vet stocks it for Dukey O0
Never been so dam happy to be stuck with you love
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glynis you and duke may live to regret that O0 think i should clarify when my vet said sweetcorn was toxic for piggies she meant sweetcorn isn't good for them. something about it having too much carbos or protein in it. this is the yellow kernels the husk is alright for piggies. the vey who with dr taylor in the UK believe sweetcorn has too much in it for piggies tummies. anyways will get my vet to contact some other vets for advice and keep you posted. as for zoe's feet will charge some batteries and take some pictures.
have thought back to april when zoe started to lose weight that is when she stopped eating grass and hay and i had to introduce veggies into her diet, also it is when i changed the bedding from hay to straw, even now she won't eat much grass or hay. are these just coinendences(sp) or are they significant(sp) again any advice would be appreciated. O0 told you glynis you'd live to regret it. and duke those :-* :-* :-* were from me not zoe and jessie O0 but they do send their stud muffin many :-* :-* :-*
 
:embarassed: :embarassed: oh dear he thought they were from the girls ;D ;D ;D ;D
He'll be very pleased tho that you're sending them too :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Like all foods we're not supposed to give them too much of anything, more hay, pellets and water....
Don't be silly girl of course i'm pleased you'll be staying :D :D :D :D :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
If you get a nice day why don't you pop the girls out on the grass for a bit and sit with them and see if she's happy to munch away out in the nice sun and fresh air O0
It's a vicious circle if you start hand feeding they get used to it......... that's what i've had to do, mind you i'm lucky as Duke will eat pellets and veg but no hay :(
Keep me posted O0 :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
so pleased you're staying mary :)
:D :D :D :D :D
I will reply to your pm a bit later but am off to work again...haven't stopped yet ::) you know i am thiinking of you and zoe x
 
okay, it never rains but it pours, now am concerned about zoe as she seems unusally tired, she just wanted to sleep last night(wednesday) and when she did sleep it was a deep sleep. have fed her today and she seems a bit brighter but am watching her like a hawk(need a big eye ball icon) O0
and missy is now wobbly in back legs,she has never been active, all the cats were lazy bones ::) ::) ::) we know if missy gets raw fish she loses vitamin B i have been feeding her science diet tuna(she wouldn't touch the chicken) it is specially formilated cooked tuna, supossed to be very good for cats.
with the raw fish about 10 years ago we nearly lost her with the vitamin B lost. so for now am massaging the legs am hoping i can get her into the vet asap. will keep you updated. and thanks starla, have a great day at work. O0 :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
Your doing great with them Mary. Zoe could just be saving her energy hope they are both picking up a little. :smitten:
 
okay just got back from the vet with missy, the vet wasn't too happy, it seems her abdomen could be filling with fluid and her medication could be what is affecting her muscle tone, so was aksed to drop medication down to once a day, the steroids aren't a cure they are just buying us time but looks like the mass/es could be winning.
as for zoe the vet is extremely busy but she will contact the oxbow vet in nebraska and glynis's vet and also see what people on the forum of the sydney university where she is doing her course on guinea pigs and rodents. so will keep you posted. O0 thanks for all your advice and for zoe and missy. just wish the news was better for both of them :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
I'm sure they'll do everything they can for Missy love O0 :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Give her some big strokes and loves from us both :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Let me know what happens re Zoe O0 it will be interesting to see if they actually do contact Nebraska and Brendan.... good on her if she does best way to learn is to ask others O0
 
that is just it glynis there is nothing they can do for missy. the medication was to buy time and quaility of life etc, when diagnosed in april we were told missy had weeks, months maybe a year tops. her tummy is defiantely swollen but her breathing is normal and she is definately wobbly on the hind legs which she is being massaged for in case of muscle waste. but glynis there isn't and never was a cure for missy. :'( :'( :'(
 
missy is the same she is picking at her dry food and OH is syringe feeding her the can food. she is moving around more, but still wobbly on her hind legs and her timmy still looks swollen. will keep you posted.
zoe is now off syringe feeds again as she soon lets you know when she has had enough. here is the picture i promised you of zoe's dark pink feet any idea would be appreciated. i have told kirsten the vet no scan no urine culture until she speaks to the other vets i suggested. will keep you posted, zoe is popping into the vet monday to be weighed. thanks to all. :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
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Missy my sweeeeeeeeeet girl, you're mummy is trying everything humanly possible for you :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: we'll keep our paws crossed that it will be an easy path for you :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Zoe your little tootsies look like Duke's for some reason maybe it's what they've lived on? or maybe age i just don't know.... ? ? ?
Hoping the little girlie has not lost too much weight love... let me know the time so i'll have mine and Duke's paws crossed :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
 
just a quick update on missy, she is hardly eating anything now, even when OH tries to syringe feed her she fights him or shakes her head so most goes all over the place. she is picking at her dry food, we are hoping it is just the antibiotics she was on for her teeth as the vet said these may upset her tummy.
we don't know what else to do, i guess all we can do is wait for a few days and see if she improves with (a) no more antibiotics and (b) the prednisone(sp) has been dropped from 2 a day to one a day.
she was diagnosed in april and we were told days, months a year tops, but where has the 2 months gone? it breaks our heart to know that first gypsy, then missy and maybe zoe won't be with us for christmases, birthdays etc. like i told you we have no family and friends and our animals are all we have and 2 years ago we had 2 rabbits, 2 dogs, 2 cats, 2 cockateils, 2 guinea pigs, now we have no dogs soon to have no cats, maybe 1 guinea pig, only one rabbit and 2 birds. we have gone from 10 babies done to 4-5, why does life have to be so hard? if only i had not fell over missy friday and squashed her she would be alright now, that is when it all started.
will wait a few days and see how missy is doing, OH has made it clear he doesn't want to syringe feed her if she doesn't want it, so all we can do is wait, make her comfortable and pray.
NO more test for zoe till vet contacts brendon or micah in nebraska. hugs to all and any prayers please offer them to missy. O0 :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
thank you jane for the link, have emailed and sent a photo of zoe's feet. :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: as for missy, it is very doubtful she will get better as the cancer is terminal, all we can do is make her comfortable and pray and hope there is a miracle for her. they way she went off her food came so sudden, one minute she is eating happily then next she wasn't. :o :o :o will keep every one updated on both missy and zoe. O0 thanks again :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
zoe is about the same, going to vet tomorrow to have her weighed. as for missy she is still not eating but will allow the OH to syringe feed her occassionally. all we can do is make her comfortable and happy.will keep you posted on both, thank you to all those for their support in this tough time. :'( :'( :'( bless you all :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
You're not having a good time with them both are you :( So sad that they both got ill at the same time. I hope they are feeling a bit better soon. (I know you say Missy can't get better, but I hope that she is comfortable and happy) :smitten:
 
okay been to the vet, for those interested wooooo hooooo zoe went from 865grams to 915grams ;D ;D ;D and missy who was on Z/D canned food the vet suggest A/D can food and she let OH syringe 5 syringes into her, so for now i am so happy i could fly to the moon O0 thank you for all who offered advice, and supported me, i know with missy it isn't over and maybe not with zoe either but for now i just want to celebrate this bit of good news :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: just hoping zoe hasn't picked up before going down hill like i have read so many piggies have. also some mongel stole my purse at coles luckily it only had my visa card in it which i have reported stolen O0
 
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