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What would you do?

skully

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Hi all, hope you’re having a good weekend.

I was hoping to get some opinions on a tricky situation I have with my piggies. I really sadly lost my beautiful Gloria last week after a battle with a chronic pneumonia and lung fibrosis. She was under the care of specialists and did really well for a long time but she was getting tired and we decided to let her go when her quality of life became poor.

She leaves behind her friend Harriet, who has chronic URI symptoms but has had two separate clear nasal swabs over a few months. She was previously treated with a long course of nebulised antibiotics. Now she has a slightly snotty nose and sometimes has quiet breathing noise but is otherwise a very happy girl. She is maintained on twice daily nebulisation, metacam and bisolvon. I don’t know whether she has any active infection, whether she is a carrier of something, or whether she just has some scar tissue or chronic inflammation in her nose.

The concern is that if I put Harriet in with my other girls, am I putting them at risk of picking up whatever she has or has had in the past? Currently she’s on her own with a double barrier so she can see the other girls but not touch. I have no major concerns about bonding them as they’ve been together for years in the past and have nice compatible personalities. They were also only separated by a single barrier until a few weeks ago so would have been able to touch noses for a long time. They are all 5/6 years old.

I know that nobody can guarantee that putting them together will be fine and safe. I suppose I just wanted some other views on what people would do in this situation. I really don’t want to leave poor Harriet alone but I also don’t want to risk the other girls. Whatever I do feels wrong to one of them.

Thank you for your help!
 
Hi all, hope you’re having a good weekend.

I was hoping to get some opinions on a tricky situation I have with my piggies. I really sadly lost my beautiful Gloria last week after a battle with a chronic pneumonia and lung fibrosis. She was under the care of specialists and did really well for a long time but she was getting tired and we decided to let her go when her quality of life became poor.

She leaves behind her friend Harriet, who has chronic URI symptoms but has had two separate clear nasal swabs over a few months. She was previously treated with a long course of nebulised antibiotics. Now she has a slightly snotty nose and sometimes has quiet breathing noise but is otherwise a very happy girl. She is maintained on twice daily nebulisation, metacam and bisolvon. I don’t know whether she has any active infection, whether she is a carrier of something, or whether she just has some scar tissue or chronic inflammation in her nose.

The concern is that if I put Harriet in with my other girls, am I putting them at risk of picking up whatever she has or has had in the past? Currently she’s on her own with a double barrier so she can see the other girls but not touch. I have no major concerns about bonding them as they’ve been together for years in the past and have nice compatible personalities. They were also only separated by a single barrier until a few weeks ago so would have been able to touch noses for a long time. They are all 5/6 years old.

I know that nobody can guarantee that putting them together will be fine and safe. I suppose I just wanted some other views on what people would do in this situation. I really don’t want to leave poor Harriet alone but I also don’t want to risk the other girls. Whatever I do feels wrong to one of them.

Thank you for your help!

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I am ever so sorry for your dilemma. You are clearly a very loving owner.

Your current solution seems to be the best in view of the transmission risk. I know that it is less than ideal.

The other compromise option would be if you moved one of the lower ranked girls and introduced to her Harriet (please on neutral ground outside the cage). That would come with a potential transmission risk to the companion but it would at least provide company with limited spread.

As you are saying yourself, there is no easy option that is going to tick all boxes.

Bonding and Interaction: Illustrated Bonding Dynamics and Behaviours
 
Thank you both for your kind words. It’s a rubbish situation and I just want to do the best thing for all piggies involved.

My other girls are a mother daughter pair who Harriet has lived with for several years before, so I’m hopeful that re-bonding would be uneventful for them. It’s just the worry of making them poorly that is concerning me. But then, they might be absolutely fine and all live together happily for the rest of their days. If only I had a crystal ball!

So I suppose the options are:
1. Leave Harriet where she is, with other piggies in sight, but seems sad for her - she’s a very submissive snuggly pig and likes to cuddle up which she can’t do at the moment
2. Re-bond her with the pair of older girls and take the risk that they might get poorly too, but at least she already knows them, and they may well have some immunity from previous exposure
3. Rescue another girl to be Harriet’s friend, preferably younger and hopefully with a sturdy immune system - not ideal as I was supposed to be reducing numbers - oops!

Thank you for your thoughts. I really value this forum for support and it’s so helpful to know what others would do in the same situation.
 
Thank you both for your kind words. It’s a rubbish situation and I just want to do the best thing for all piggies involved.

My other girls are a mother daughter pair who Harriet has lived with for several years before, so I’m hopeful that re-bonding would be uneventful for them. It’s just the worry of making them poorly that is concerning me. But then, they might be absolutely fine and all live together happily for the rest of their days. If only I had a crystal ball!

So I suppose the options are:
1. Leave Harriet where she is, with other piggies in sight, but seems sad for her - she’s a very submissive snuggly pig and likes to cuddle up which she can’t do at the moment
2. Re-bond her with the pair of older girls and take the risk that they might get poorly too, but at least she already knows them, and they may well have some immunity from previous exposure
3. Rescue another girl to be Harriet’s friend, preferably younger and hopefully with a sturdy immune system - not ideal as I was supposed to be reducing numbers - oops!

Thank you for your thoughts. I really value this forum for support and it’s so helpful to know what others would do in the same situation.

I feel for you and wish that there was an easy option. But that is unfortunately not how life is usually playing out... :(

But if the other two have been living with Harriet before without coming down with the respiratory illness, then their immune systems may have been strong enough. Sleep about it and listen to your heart; at least that way you'll know that you have made the decision you yourself can live with best for the long term; whatever happens.
 
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