COVID-19 What do people think about the lockdown restrictions being eased?

Abirose said:
How are you @Ritika did you manage to get a supply of hay and grass. How are your piggies?
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They are good thank u!! My sow just got some blood in her pee last night and we talked to a vet today on call and he said to wait and see for the symptoms for a couple more days so everything is going great for now:) and yes we got 8-10 pounds of hay from a lady near my town who owns many rabbits and has unlimited supply of Timothy and alfalfa hay with her. How are u and your piggies doing?!❤
 
Boris is still waffling on saying go to work if you must. Well depending on furlough, will tell me if I must, but they arnt saying anything, so il be going back to work Probably on Wednesday and then findout furlough has stayed them same, and there was no need to put my wife at risk even more.

The man is nice, I like Boris, but he isnt answering questions, just waffling around them. They don't know what the hell to do, and are taking chances.
 
Gem789 said:
I personally thiink its a mad idea to start easing things from Monday(as is bring reported) The rate of deaths in hospitals and care homes is still too high. The number of new cases is still high. I just fear if they ease up so soon things will get worse. What do other people think about this?
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I don't think its right yet, we are not ready, if it wasn't for the media pushing the govement for a loc
 
It's too soon, if it wasn't for the media pushing the goverment to easy lock down, Boris would be doing this, iam classed as high risk, so I might be here a long time.
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
Boris is still waffling on saying go to work if you must. Well depending on furlough, will tell me if I must, but they arnt saying anything, so il be going back to work Probably on Wednesday and then findout furlough has stayed them same, and there was no need to put my wife at risk even more.

The man is nice, I like Boris, but he isnt answering questions, just waffling around them. They don't know what the hell to do, and are taking chances.
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Your right, I think the man, but their so much confusing, he should have left it alone, the death rates gone up in 24hrs, maddness
 
I haven't watched todays update yet. I was busy so recorded it. It still seems like a lot of waffle, very much "may" "could" "if" so all speculative. Latest from work is they are waiting for a meeting with early years as we may fall into the category of reopening on 1st June. I have to get public transport, was one of first to be furloughed & prob be one of last to go back. Who knows.

I just hope everything that has been achieved the last 7 weeks is not going to be for nothing. What are death rates today?
 
My thoughts are that even if they did keep us in for longer, this would still eventually happen and there would be another peak anyway. If they reopen schools next month I will be able to go back work so thats a positive
 
One of my kids went back to school today (in Switzerland).
No special restrictions at all.

I am not sure how I feel about it, but I can see how much it means to to her to be back, and what a boost it has been to her.
Right now I can't help but feel glad she will have this for at least a few weeks, as at 15 years old I think she really needed it.
But I also think it might be a bit selfish of me to be ok with it.
 
Just heard a woman on the radio saying that as soon as the weather is warm enough again, she is going to drive from her home in the Cotswolds for a day trip to a beach in the West Country. Never mind the fact that the authorities there - as well as in other areas popular with tourists - don't want any visitors. It's fine for her, she's special in some way, she thinks the country is 'covid crazy' and restrictions are OTT. If she has an accident, it's ok cos the hospitals are empty except for covid patients ...
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I got so cross I had to leave the room.
Why cant she stay where she lives, her local area has plenty of nice places to go. Hope if she goes she gets the bug and it wrecks her life ..
 
Qualcast&Flymo said:
Just heard a woman on the radio saying that as soon as the weather is warm enough again, she is going to drive from her home in the Cotswolds for a day trip to a beach in the West Country. Never mind the fact that the authorities there - as well as in other areas popular with tourists - don't want any visitors. It's fine for her, she's special in some way, she thinks the country is 'covid crazy' and restrictions are OTT. If she has an accident, it's ok cos the hospitals are empty except for covid patients ...
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I got so cross I had to leave the room.
Why cant she stay where she lives, her local area has plenty of nice places to go. Hope if she goes she gets the bug and it wrecks her life ..
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This is what I've been worried about, people are really going to take the mick now. I really can see infection cases rising again soon.
 
Qualcast&Flymo said:
Just heard a woman on the radio saying that as soon as the weather is warm enough again, she is going to drive from her home in the Cotswolds for a day trip to a beach in the West Country. Never mind the fact that the authorities there - as well as in other areas popular with tourists - don't want any visitors. It's fine for her, she's special in some way, she thinks the country is 'covid crazy' and restrictions are OTT. If she has an accident, it's ok cos the hospitals are empty except for covid patients ...
:rant::rant::rant::rant::rant:
I got so cross I had to leave the room.
Why cant she stay where she lives, her local area has plenty of nice places to go. Hope if she goes she gets the bug and it wrecks her life ..
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That is crazy, the Cotswolds are a beautiful place, she doesn't need to go to an other part of the country. I understand people stuck in cities all this time needing to get out but still should be sensible about how far they travel. I am really really lucky to live in a small rural town surrounded by beautiful countryside and won't be driving off somewhere else just because restrictions have been eased. I am a bit worried tho about how many people may turn up here from tomorrow, it is a place people like to come for a day out but the population has a very high percentage of over 70s, so not an ideal situation.
 
I don't think it's so confusing. I think what is confusing is making the statement then ironing out the details over Monday and Tuesday. The message is largely the same, if you can stay at home you should absolutely do it. If you can't work from home you go to work but employers need to use social distancing and other protective measures to keep staff safe. People should try to avoid using public transport to get to work so walk, cycle, drive instead. If you have to go into places where social distancing is not always possible then consider wearing face coverings (this is not ppe so does not take equipment away from the nhs but any covering).

What annoys me is everyone wearing masks out and about yet when they stop to talk to people they are adjusting them or moving them down to free their mouth. We don't know that covid is airborne at the moment but we do know that it stays on surfaces. The second you go out and touch something and then touch your face mask you are pretty much infecting yourself. I know I couldn't wear one without fiddling with it so I won't bother but I won't be taking public transport either
 
I've had info from school today asking me to consider my working hours and what I'm able to do etc when school goes back, as I've been in on the odd occasion to cover key children it's expected I'll be going in, but I still personally feel that reception is the wrong year to be sending in, they are too small to fully comprehend being distant and yes we can spend more time hand washing than learning but many of our youngest are multi year families and the older ones won't be in the years going in, also we have a couple with learning needs again that will really struggle with this as they are unable to process the change and the routine will be different. My daughter is year 6 but my son is year 8 and hubby is currently working from home, so half of our household will be out and the other still observing the stay at home message?
I appreciate that you will never please all of the people all of the time and we are all entitled to our own views but the virus isn't gone, yes the economy and people are struggling but it's that worth more than a life? I have no answers and am very lucky to live where I do and be secure currently but I'm not sure this is right as countries that locked down way before we did are only just easing things.
 
My wife's c. E. O of the primary school academy has been on video call to all staff, and said I'm in no way going to risk any of your lives until it is safe to do so, and working safety measures are in place. What a guy. I watched him live on cam.

There's no one above him which is a bonus
 
Spaghetti & Noodles said:
I've had info from school today asking me to consider my working hours and what I'm able to do etc when school goes back, as I've been in on the odd occasion to cover key children it's expected I'll be going in, but I still personally feel that reception is the wrong year to be sending in, they are too small to fully comprehend being distant and yes we can spend more time hand washing than learning but many of our youngest are multi year families and the older ones won't be in the years going in, also we have a couple with learning needs again that will really struggle with this as they are unable to process the change and the routine will be different. My daughter is year 6 but my son is year 8 and hubby is currently working from home, so half of our household will be out and the other still observing the stay at home message?
I appreciate that you will never please all of the people all of the time and we are all entitled to our own views but the virus isn't gone, yes the economy and people are struggling but it's that worth more than a life? I have no answers and am very lucky to live where I do and be secure currently but I'm not sure this is right as countries that locked down way before we did are only just easing things.
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My understanding is that they are targeting the younger years over fear of leaving them behind in terms of child development. It's a tough call and I think whatever they decided to do parents wouldn't be happy as they will either be put at risk or left behind/forgotten about
 
Lady Kelly said:
My understanding is that they are targeting the younger years over fear of leaving them behind in terms of child development. It's a tough call and I think whatever they decided to do parents wouldn't be happy as they will either be put at risk or left behind/forgotten about
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I think you're right but I also feel that is already a losing battle as the generation we are seeing come through now are too reliant on electronic devices and already behind developmentally as for some parents it's easier to give them a device, not all parents granted, but the difference is beginning to show. When our intake were asked to draw their favourite thing when they first started we had pictures of an Xbox, a tablet and TV only one or two drew teddy or something like that.
 
I'm even more confused this morning! So, if you want to meet one other person, who is not part of your household, this has to be done in a public space, such as a park. The reason the Government gave, for not being able to do this, in a garden, is because lots of back gardens, can only be accessed by going through the house. So please can someone explain why I can now go and view someone's property for sale? Surely that is even more risky? I guess they are looking at the stamp duty they'll be receiving!
 
furryfriends (TEAS) said:
I'm even more confused this morning! So, if you want to meet one other person, who is not part of your household, this has to be done in a public space, such as a park. The reason the Government gave, for not being able to do this, in a garden, is because lots of back gardens, can only be accessed by going through the house. So please can someone explain why I can now go and view someone's property for sale? Surely that is even more risky? I guess they are looking at the stamp duty they'll be receiving!
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I think they are probably more focussed on the economy, dropping house prices and all the house sales that hit pause when lockdown started that need to get going again rather than stamp duty. Can't say I agree with house viewings at the moment but then it doesn't affect me. I suppose with a house viewing you go for a look and don't generally wander around for ages/use the toilet etc. One minister said the problem with households visiting is the difficulty in maintaining social distancing in smaller gardens, when walking through the house, people taking liberties by using the kitchen and bathroom so not sure how much truth is in the "walking through the house" bit and how much is knowing they can't trust certain members of the public
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
Germany are having a 2nd wave of trouble a week after easing lockdown. And they were one of the best countries at handling this virus. Say no more
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Odd isn't it. Social media was full of people criticising the government over not locking down sooner like Germany and claiming they were the only country to get it right but they haven't got it right either. Power of hindsight. Hopefully we had enough infection before lockdown that we don't have as high a spike on easing lockdown. I was listening to Denmark earlier who sent all primary school pupils back quickly, they had an increase of infections but not a second peak and then it got under control pretty quickly again. Time will tell.
 
furryfriends (TEAS) said:
I'm even more confused this morning! So, if you want to meet one other person, who is not part of your household, this has to be done in a public space, such as a park. The reason the Government gave, for not being able to do this, in a garden, is because lots of back gardens, can only be accessed by going through the house. So please can someone explain why I can now go and view someone's property for sale? Surely that is even more risky? I guess they are looking at the stamp duty they'll be receiving!
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I’d think you might be right there! Can’t people look on video or through a window? I don’t think that’s very safe unless the house is actually empty.
 
furryfriends (TEAS) said:
Are public toilets, in the parks open? Does anyone know?
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From what I have seen in the news, no they aren’t. Several open spaces here won’t open up and are actively discouraging people from attending those that can’t physically lock gates to keep people out
 
furryfriends (TEAS) said:
I'm even more confused this morning! So, if you want to meet one other person, who is not part of your household, this has to be done in a public space, such as a park. The reason the Government gave, for not being able to do this, in a garden, is because lots of back gardens, can only be accessed by going through the house. So please can someone explain why I can now go and view someone's property for sale? Surely that is even more risky? I guess they are looking at the stamp duty they'll be receiving!
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Black and white. We are very good at creating “but what if”. So you can meet in a large garden “but what if my garden‘s just a bit smaller” “but what if they need the loo” ”but what if they get thirsty”. So meet in a park takes ambiguity out of it (supposedly).

The house viewing is entirely about the economy. Without that there are a whole heap of other issues brewing that will also cause deaths. But you don’t socialise as you view a house,you don’t need to touch stuff, you don’t use the toilet and you are usually in and out quickly (which is mad as it’s the most money you spend yet I spend more time trying on a pair of new shoes than viewing a new house!)
 
Piggies&buns said:
From what I have seen in the news, no they aren’t. Several open spaces here won’t open up and are actively discouraging people from attending those that can’t physically lock gates to keep people out
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But I thought these places are where they’re telling us to go? This will just encourage people to get in cars and drive further afield!
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
Germany are having a 2nd wave of trouble a week after easing lockdown. And they were one of the best countries at handling this virus. Say no more
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Actually whilst the numbers of new cases have risen slightly over the past 3 days, this is still within the normal limits, was expected, and is not causing major problems.
One of the reasons for the dramatic rise was actually a hot spot on infection was discovered in one area of industry (slaughter houses) and now thousands of additional workers are being tested, which is responsible for several hundred new cases. This isn't becasue lock down has eased - it is because infection was already there and has spread, and is being discovered via additional testing.

The numbers will go up - no question, but they are managing the situation well, small local lock downs are being reintroduced in problem areas, and the death rate is still very low.
Just reporting numbers is in no way indicative of the situation as a whole, and it is important to try to be objective and look at the facts as opposed to just numbers (which we all know are highly inaccurate anyway).
 
Piggies&buns said:
From what I have seen in the news, no they aren’t. Several open spaces here won’t open up and are actively discouraging people from attending those that can’t physically lock gates to keep people out
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That's an interesting approach.
Here all public toilets in parks, stations, etc are now open, and also free of charge.
The idea is that with regular cleaning they will encourage more people to wash their hands and remind them of the need for ongoing attention to good hygiene.
I haven't actually been out or used public toilets recently so I have no idea if the reality will meet the expectation though!
 
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