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Stone or UTI?

Oh I am so sorry to hear this. Please don’t blame yourself. It can be very difficult to identify stones and treatment can be very difficult. You did all that you could. I have lost 2 boars to stones myself (my beloved Mr Ted and sweet Felix). In both cases they developed stones very rapidly (something went majorly wrong with their absorption of minerals) and nothing I could have done would have changed the outcome.
we are all here to support you. Please be gentle with yourself as you grieve. You’ve had a dreadful shock and it’s natural to doubt yourself but really you have done all that you could for him. Hugest hugs x
 
Thank you all. I just feel terrible about the whole situation. We had him on every drug we could and I was willing to emergency drive him from Manchester to Northampton today (I sent the vets at C&R a message last night). But I still feel I left it too long.
I really feel I let him down.

I took him to our local vet this afternoon and paid to have him cremated and get his ashes back 😢😢😢


I’m keeping an eye on his companion. He’s been eating and acting normal today. He can see the others

Thank you all for your support. Everyone on this forum is amazing 💖
 
VickiA said:
Oh I am so sorry to hear this. Please don’t blame yourself. It can be very difficult to identify stones and treatment can be very difficult. You did all that you could. I have lost 2 boars to stones myself (my beloved Mr Ted and sweet Felix). In both cases they developed stones very rapidly (something went majorly wrong with their absorption of minerals) and nothing I could have done would have changed the outcome.
we are all here to support you. Please be gentle with yourself as you grieve. You’ve had a dreadful shock and it’s natural to doubt yourself but really you have done all that you could for him. Hugest hugs x
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So sorry to hear about Mr.Ted and Felix 😢
I wonder if Rocket had something underlying as he was always eating a lot but not gaining weight. Yet vets couldn’t find anything wrong.
Thank you for your message x
 
piggieminder said:
I am so sorry to hear this.
You did everything you could, please don't blame yourself. The chances are if he'd had a stone removal operation he would have recovered well and a few weeks/months down the line he would have got another one. My vet told me most of the boars she operates on for stones (average 5 a week!) are back very soon afterwards. This happened to me with Bracken, Willow had a stone lodged in his kidney and couldn't be operated on. Stones are a nightmare!
Be kind to yourself as you grieve for your boy. I hope you will be able to smile at the happy memories of him soon.
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thank you so much for your message. I’m so sorry to hear you’ve had trouble with your guys too 😢
 
Free Ranger said:
It is the worst of times and I'm so sorry 😪

My boar Panda had an emergency stone surgery a few years back and he died in my lap two hours later. He was a big healthy boy of 3-4 years and when I collected him afterwards he already felt cool... I think they knew what was coming and so did I. The risks are so high for boys with this tricky operation... I wanted to give him every chance but I still ask myself whether I could have or should have done anything different.

Rocket is at peace and not in pain anymore 💕
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So sorry to hear about your boy 😢😢
Thank you for your message and support x
 
Please, don't blame yourself. I know you will, because you loved him and I did blame myself when my little boy didn't recover after surgery to remove his bladder stone. It's a shock to have such a young piggie pass away whilst having 9 yrs old grandpa! You've done everything you could and he knew you loved him. From the meds he was on, he was kept comfortable. Some of these piggies are just badly bred and not as resilient as others. You really gave him the best veterinary treatment!
 
Marvel_piggie_squad said:
So sorry to hear about Mr.Ted and Felix 😢
I wonder if Rocket had something underlying as he was always eating a lot but not gaining weight. Yet vets couldn’t find anything wrong.
Thank you for your message x
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This is an interesting point; my first rescue piggie had a bladder stone which was successfully removed, but although he healed well and he ate everything he could, he didn't gain any weight back and died suddenly a month or so later.
I've often wondered if he had something that meant he was unable to metabolise his food and all the calcium went into forming a stone, or something else was wrong..
 
Qualcast&Flymo said:
This is an interesting point; my first rescue piggie had a bladder stone which was successfully removed, but although he healed well and he ate everything he could, he didn't gain any weight back and died suddenly a month or so later.
I've often wondered if he had something that meant he was unable to metabolise his food and all the calcium went into forming a stone, or something else was wrong..
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I might ask Kim about it on Friday as I’m at C&R for Odin’s check up on Friday. I know we will never actually know but I do feel there was something. He was always a very happy and active piggie, and loved his food! But wouldn’t gain weight or grow like the others. We were told he was only months old when we rescued him, but he did have huge feet and thick nails. Maybe he was older? Who knows.
I feel a lot of piggies these days have so many problems; most likely as a result of breeding. I had pigs years ago when I was younger and don’t remember keeping them to be this difficult and heartbreaking 😔
 
I'm so sorry for your loss, what a shock this must be. I know it's hard but please don't blame yourself, you did everything you could possibly have done for him. Sleep tight sweet Rocket ❤️
 
Qualcast&Flymo said:
This is an interesting point; my first rescue piggie had a bladder stone which was successfully removed, but although he healed well and he ate everything he could, he didn't gain any weight back and died suddenly a month or so later.
I've often wondered if he had something that meant he was unable to metabolise his food and all the calcium went into forming a stone, or something else was wrong..
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Mr Ted survived sudden onset pneumonia with plenty of X-rays and no stones seen even when the X-rays were rechecked with benefit of hindsight. Felix was failing to thrive. We found he had a form leukaemia from his crappy life before we rescued him. And he had full X-rays a couple weeks before he was found with a monstrous sized jagged stone. Again his X-rays were completely clear only a couple of weeks before. In both cases the vets concluded they had developed these because of a metabolic problem. Both had low calcium diets, both had the best lives I could give them, but sadly sometimes we just can’t prevent these
 
If only there was some way to treat these awful stones in situ... it must surely cause less trauma to be able to inject something into the bladder to dissolve them than to have to try and cut them out. We've put men on the moon for goodness sake - it's absolutely tragic.
 
Same here, my little boy was only 670g and not even a year old. It started suddenly with blood in urine and severe pain, xray showed bladder stone. He had a surgery done by exotic specialist and when he opened him he found his testies didn't drop and were pushing his organs into wrong places and caused hernia, meaning he had to castrate him before he could even open his bladder and repair the hernia.
 
Hath said:
Same here, my little boy was only 670g and not even a year old. It started suddenly with blood in urine and severe pain, xray showed bladder stone. He had a surgery done by exotic specialist and when he opened him he found his testies didn't drop and were pushing his organs into wrong places and caused hernia, meaning he had to castrate him before he could even open his bladder and repair the hernia.
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Sorry to hear that your boy had to go through all of that 😔
 
VickiA said:
Mr Ted survived sudden onset pneumonia with plenty of X-rays and no stones seen even when the X-rays were rechecked with benefit of hindsight. Felix was failing to thrive. We found he had a form leukaemia from his crappy life before we rescued him. And he had full X-rays a couple weeks before he was found with a monstrous sized jagged stone. Again his X-rays were completely clear only a couple of weeks before. In both cases the vets concluded they had developed these because of a metabolic problem. Both had low calcium diets, both had the best lives I could give them, but sadly sometimes we just can’t prevent these
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😔😔😔 so terrible these bladder issues. I agree, something definitely underlying. I just can’t believe how quickly things can go down hill
 
Free Ranger said:
If only there was some way to treat these awful stones in situ... it must surely cause less trauma to be able to inject something into the bladder to dissolve them than to have to try and cut them out. We've put men on the moon for goodness sake - it's absolutely tragic.
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Some people try putting cranberry juice in their pig's water to dissolve a stone, but I imagine that isnt likely to work as stones are pretty big and solid by the time they are noticeable, and cranberry juice rather dilute by the time it gets to the bladder.

Surgery for a stone isn't such big issue in the hands of a good vet, the problem is when stones move down into the urinary tract and get stuck causing blockage. :td::(
 
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