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Blimey...talk about posting a thread in a very tabloid way!

He was in Peru (according to one news website), in some countries to not eat what is offered is an insult to your hosts. We don't really know the circumstances, we weren't there. We're relying on the media to bring news to us accurately iwhich is completely misguided. Yeah we're all here because we love our guineas and no we wouldn't put our beloved pets in a casserole dish...but I don't think there's any need to create such drama and rub people on the forum up the wrong way, and I'm sorry..not I'm not, but posts like this that is delivered in this tone only antagonise fellow members. It's been spoken about before...

Yes I have no problem bringing the news item to the forums attention, yes he's going to get plenty of press to help his ailing career, just look at the photo they used for him...a much younger photo.

Oh yes and it's spelt Schofield.
 
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My hub is a meat eater and i am a vegetarian. We have many friendly debates and he has even admitted to me that although he wouldn't eat our animals, it wouldn't put him off trying cat, guinea pig, gerbil and hamster if he had the opportunity :)>>> The thought repulses me but I have to respect his views just as much as he respects mine.
 
Claire W said:
My hub is a meat eater and i am a vegetarian. We have many friendly debates and he has even admitted to me that although he wouldn't eat our animals, it wouldn't put him off trying cat, guinea pig, gerbil and hamster if he had the opportunity :)>>> The thought repulses me but I have to respect his views just as much as he respects mine.
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Likewise...I'm vegetarian, the OH isn't.

We had a convo once (as he tucked into his mixed grill!) about keeping livestock and rearing and killing them for him to eat. Oooh no he couldn't do that! Couldn't eat animals he knows! Yet I'd be quite happy to raise and slaughter them for him to eat.

I think for me, it's all about the purpose for which the animal is bred. I much rather the OH ate meat that I knew had been looked after etc. but he doesn't see it like that!
 
I saw the tweets that he sent from Peru. If I'm honest I was a bit surprised to begin with as I'd never actually seen a cooked guinea pig and couldn't help but visualise my own on that plate, which made me feel a bit sick if I'm honest.

But that's what they do there, it's the culture and I don't think any less of him for eating it or posting the pictures. If I was in Peru, would I eat guinea pig...? Probably not out of choice but if someone has cooked it and presented me with it I wouldn't want to offend the culture by being judgemental. The same as I wouldn't judge if whoever I was with chose too eat it. Each to their own.

Being pretty much brought up on my grandparents farm (which my uncles now run) we're a big meat loving family (minus one cousin who's a 'vegetarian' who will have gravy on her Sunday roast...don't get me started on that point!). I know how the animals are farmed and sent to slaughter and know exactly how my meat gets to my plate.

I've always been happy to try all kinds of meat: rabbit; horse; ostrich; even whale, shark and puffin when I visited Iceland. If it's the culture of that country then you have to respect that, even if you don't agree. We eat beef/pork when some cultures think they are sacred. when you go on holiday to Turkey (a mainly Muslim country) you don't expect them to serve you bacon...

The guinea pigs's in Peru are larger and are nothing like the ones in this country. They are farmed for eating. I very much doubt anyone in their right mind would want to cook a pet guinea pig... :laluot_32:
 
I admire schofield for being brave enough to stand up for what he did, he still says he's against animal cruelty and I believe him. My own boyfriend is likely to work in Peru soon and is also likely to try guinea pig. The choice is his and I wouldn't think worse of him for doing it. If I didn't own my 5 I probably would try it too but would feel too guilty now when I look at my lot
 
I know I saw this and thought how ridiculously tactless, I hope none of the names were visable
 
lil said:
Blimey...talk about posting a thread in a very tabloid way!

He was in Peru (according to one news website), in some countries to not eat what is offered is an insult to your hosts. We don't really know the circumstances, we weren't there. We're relying on the media to bring news to us accurately iwhich is completely misguided. Yeah we're all here because we love our guineas and no we wouldn't put our beloved pets in a casserole dish...but I don't think there's any need to create such drama and rub people on the forum up the wrong way, and I'm sorry..not I'm not, but posts like this that is delivered in this tone only antagonise fellow members. It's been spoken about before...

Yes I have no problem bringing the news item to the forums attention, yes he's going to get plenty of press to help his ailing career, just look at the photo they used for him...a much younger photo.

Oh yes and it's spelt Schofield.
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I didnt realise i was rubbing Anyone up the wrong way or breaking forum rules by raising concerns and discussing them? I found the fact that he ate a pig revolting that is MY personal opinion and i have the right to that opinion, as you and others have the right to state you dont see any issues. It upset me to hear him discuss eating pigs as I'm sure it did others in the country. And if you are indicating that i am antagonising others wth my opinion then i am sorry but i cannot see your reasoning for this? And the sheer fact you have corrected my spelling (i type in text form so shorten words on my iphone predictive text) i found this very rude and undermining. I'm sorry if my opinion and upset has offended anyone but surely i have a right to raise a thread as you or any other forum member does? My original thread merely states that philip has gone down in my views for eating a pig and broadcasting it. What people in peru do is their culture and their right however we and philip are british citizens and there are many a sadistic people in this country who may now harm and eat there pet pigs-twisted people. So i feel it was very irresponsible to broadcast it like he did. I posted on this thread early on that this was simply my opinion and if it is causing disruption to the forum the thread should be left. Yet you and others have posted to it? Please do not judge me or dictate to me when i am simply airing my opinion.
 
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I saw the tweets that he sent from Peru. If I'm honest I was a bit surprised to begin with as I'd never actually seen a cooked guinea pig and couldn't help but visualise my own on that plate, which made me feel a bit sick if I'm honest.

But that's what they do there, it's the culture and I don't think any less of him for eating it or posting the pictures. If I was in Peru, would I eat guinea pig...? Probably not out of choice but if someone has cooked it and presented me with it I wouldn't want to offend the culture by being judgemental. The same as I wouldn't judge if whoever I was with chose too eat it. Each to their own.

Being pretty much brought up on my grandparents farm (which my uncles now run) we're a big meat loving family (minus one cousin who's a 'vegetarian' who will have gravy on her Sunday roast...don't get me started on that point!). I know how the animals are farmed and sent to slaughter and know exactly how my meat gets to my plate.

I've always been happy to try all kinds of meat: rabbit; horse; ostrich; even whale, shark and puffin when I visited Iceland. If it's the culture of that country then you have to respect that, even if you don't agree. We eat beef/pork when some cultures think they are sacred. when you go on holiday to Turkey (a mainly Muslim country) you don't expect them to serve you bacon...

The guinea pigs's in Peru are larger and are nothing like the ones in this country. They are farmed for eating. I very much doubt anyone in their right mind would want to cook a pet guinea pig... :laluot_32:
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There are some people who arent in a right mind . Look at the post another member put on yesterday-a man beat his staffy to death and through it from his 15 storey flat balcony? That is the sort of person that would see no wrong in harming and eating a pig 'just to try it'
 
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To be fair I did find this comment unkind and not necessary
 
Lil-Ninnibig said:
I didnt realise i was rubbing Anyone up the wrong way or breaking forum rules by raising concerns and discussing them? I found the fact that he ate a pig revolting that is MY personal opinion and i have the right to that opinion, as you and others have the right to state you dont see any issues. It upset me to hear him discuss eating pigs as I'm sure it did others in the country. And if you are indicating that i am antagonising others wth my opinion then i am sorry but i cannot see your reasoning for this? And the sheer fact you have corrected my spelling (i type in text form so shorten words on my iphone predictive text) i found this very rude and undermining. I'm sorry if my opinion and upset has offended anyone but surely i have a right to raise a thread as you or any other forum member does? My original thread merely states that philip has gone down in my views for eating a pig and broadcasting it. What people in peru do is their culture and their right however we and philip are british citizens and there are many a sadistic people in this country who may now harm and eat there pet pigs-twisted people. So i feel it was very irresponsible to broadcast it like he did. I posted on this thread early on that this was simply my opinion and if it is causing disruption to the forum the thread should be left. Yet you and others have posted to it? Please do not judge me or dictate to me when i am simply airing my opinion.
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I'm private messaging you.
 
I don't really understand being a vegetarian for ethical.and welfare reasons, but still drinking milk and eating egg etc.., because in my opinion the meat animals have a better life compared to the say, the dairy animals. Beef cows spend their life in the field, and are not intensivly bred as dairy cows. Plus beef cattle normally have an easier time giving birth (excluding Belgium blues ) than dairy cows.
So if i were to cut something out of my diet due to ethical and welfare reasons, then the dairy industry would be top ofy list.

Also with the whole schofield eating guinea pig, i can understand it. I suppose you could sort of compare it to eating rabbit in the UK. Its not the fluffy ones from pet shops that are eaten, but the wild ones who are pests and destroying crops. Its what people ate during ww2 to survive.
 
I lived on a fruit farm for 2 years a little while back and I have eaten rabbit stew because they were shot from the farm. I abhorred the killing of the animal, I dont see the land as being MINE ALL MINE.. i think the great outdoors aught to be shared, the animals were healthy and they werent even damaging the crop! But once the deed was done and the choice was eat it or see the animal in the bin? No question, I would prefer to be eaten by a shark and be a part of him than rot in landfill. But thats my religious viewpoint. I eat meat rarely, though I think the human body expects it evolutionarily. Yet I can agree that humans these days do not NEED meat as the list of healthy alternatives are endless. I love cooking vegetarian to try out new ideas because I love food. Meat to me is something that should be respected, in days gone by the hunters would bring back one or two animals, which could be seen and touched before you ate it. These days you dont know how many of who is in what! The only meat in my freezer is bought from a farm in york who raises its cattle on grass alone and does not treat for parasites. They are opening a programme to save bull calves from an early bullet as they believe every animal born deserves a shred of the good life before its time (dictated by us) is up. If I eat meat I will support the farm who bothers to email me with pictures of the latest cow they bought and what they named her.

I'm still working out how I feel. I will never be at 'peace' eating meat but I dont disagree with it entirely. Some might judge me poorly for this too, but lilnin is right in that we all should be allowed to express our mental workings - its human nature to amalgumate our policies for others to consider. This thread may have topics which seem over beaten to some, but it is always relevant as long as people are open to consider another view point and compare it to their own. There is NO need for the 'I'm right, you're wrong' crap from anyone. Talk about your own mind and leave it there, and if you dont understand how someone can feel the way they do, realise that you cannot ever understand a view point opposite to your own unless you are comfortable reassessing yourself. If you come to the same conclusions as before - congratulations, good for you.. but it doesnt make your reality more correct. And that gives you no right to brandish people as immoral or over sensative. You wont change the way they think, you wont open their mind to your reality.. you'll just crush them and make them resent you. Thats the realm of the internet troll and I dont think ANYONE on THIS forum would tolerate that rubbish. This is the first forum I've joined where I have kicked up my feet and grabbed a tea to enjoy the posts. No idiot bullies.

In my opinon this post is relevant, my piece is that no I would never 'try' guineapig. If I was dumped in peru with a bottle of water, trawled for days to find a remote village that served me up a free guineapig wrap I wouldnt know what I would do. The luxury of living in the UK with 3 square meals a day. Morally I would pick out the meat, emotionally I would pick out the meat, but if I thought the meat was not going to be eaten, binned.. or if I was literally STARVING I would eat the meat.. but i wouldnt sit and wonder what the flavour reminded me of. I would be thinking of and greatful to the poor critter that gave up its life for me, the same way I do when I eat the beef in my freezer.

Thats my opinion and I hope it makes sense to someone!
 
Dusty_bugs said:
I lived on a fruit farm for 2 years a little while back and I have eaten rabbit stew because they were shot from the farm. I abhorred the killing of the animal, I dont see the land as being MINE ALL MINE.. i think the great outdoors aught to be shared, the animals were healthy and they werent even damaging the crop! But once the deed was done and the choice was eat it or see the animal in the bin? No question, I would prefer to be eaten by a shark and be a part of him than rot in landfill. But thats my religious viewpoint. I eat meat rarely, though I think the human body expects it evolutionarily. Yet I can agree that humans these days do not NEED meat as the list of healthy alternatives are endless. I love cooking vegetarian to try out new ideas because I love food. Meat to me is something that should be respected, in days gone by the hunters would bring back one or two animals, which could be seen and touched before you ate it. These days you dont know how many of who is in what! The only meat in my freezer is bought from a farm in york who raises its cattle on grass alone and does not treat for parasites. They are opening a programme to save bull calves from an early bullet as they believe every animal born deserves a shred of the good life before its time (dictated by us) is up. If I eat meat I will support the farm who bothers to email me with pictures of the latest cow they bought and what they named her.

I'm still working out how I feel. I will never be at 'peace' eating meat but I dont disagree with it entirely. Some might judge me poorly for this too, but lilnin is right in that we all should be allowed to express our mental workings - its human nature to amalgumate our policies for others to consider. This thread may have topics which seem over beaten to some, but it is always relevant as long as people are open to consider another view point and compare it to their own. There is NO need for the 'I'm right, you're wrong' crap from anyone. Talk about your own mind and leave it there, and if you dont understand how someone can feel the way they do, realise that you cannot ever understand a view point opposite to your own unless you are comfortable reassessing yourself. If you come to the same conclusions as before - congratulations, good for you.. but it doesnt make your reality more correct. And that gives you no right to brandish people as immoral or over sensative. You wont change the way they think, you wont open their mind to your reality.. you'll just crush them and make them resent you. Thats the realm of the internet troll and I dont think ANYONE on THIS forum would tolerate that rubbish. This is the first forum I've joined where I have kicked up my feet and grabbed a tea to enjoy the posts. No idiot bullies.

In my opinon this post is relevant, my piece is that no I would never 'try' guineapig. If I was dumped in peru with a bottle of water, trawled for days to find a remote village that served me up a free guineapig wrap I wouldnt know what I would do. The luxury of living in the UK with 3 square meals a day. Morally I would pick out the meat, emotionally I would pick out the meat, but if I thought the meat was not going to be eaten, binned.. or if I was literally STARVING I would eat the meat.. but i wouldnt sit and wonder what the flavour reminded me of. I would be thinking of and greatful to the poor critter that gave up its life for me, the same way I do when I eat the beef in my freezer.

Thats my opinion and I hope it makes sense to someone!
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I understand your post-i think- and as ive said throughout this thread its my opinion that i disagree with philip eating pig and broadcasting it eat it fair enough but dont broadcast it as it upset not only me but my friends 6 year old daughter who owns pigs and saw it on the internet. I understand we all have different opinions and that all opinions should be respected. As a result of this thread i had a nasty pm sent to me hence why i made the 'I'm new here' thread as the member who pm me made out i was disliked by most and had attitude isses? I didnt deserve that just because my opinion differed from theres and the majority. Thankyou for your post i didnt intend for the thread to lead to such a heated debate i just was distressed that a piggy had been eaten.
 
absolutely understandable! And the response has been unnecessarily inflammatory. I didn't know about what he had done, reading that he'd eaten a guineapig would have made my tummy turn aswell. To some readers they'd probably take it lightly as exotic meat, and the sick amongst our society would downgrade their value as a loyal family member.

I think questionable content on the internet these days is another bug bear topic.. Personally I dispise having material offensive to me being smeared in my face day in and day out. Never mind infront of our children! I hate newspapers except for the guardian and I (20p) just the basics, no women dribbling out the pages in their underwear filling my partners head with boobs boobs boobs. It's an invasion of mal-virtue in my mind and cheapens the things we should be precious about. I cant even read my emails without being offered to love my body more by destroying what my mother gave me and making myself a living sex object.

I myself am glad you posted this, it's good to learn more about people and their beliefs as we have a rainbow community with one great passion! And whoever attacked you by PM had better know how disgusted we all are.
 
Ive only just found this thread so I'm going to stick my two penneth in if thats ok? :))

I'm also a vegetarian ( for 29 years!) and obviously a guinea pig to me is a very special animal ( we all have our favourites and i imagine just being on this forum gives us all that in common) anyway - my reaction to the whole Philip Schof thing was "why has he tweeted that picture? The stupid man!" Ive thought about what exactly it is i feel about this and it really is not that he has eaten a guineapig in peru - it is more the fact that he is a family tv presenter that we all love and watch every day (very influential man) and he has tweeted this picture that he knew was going to be upsetting to many people in the uk and this is quite upsetting to me - its quite hurtful that he has such disregard for so many of his fans- what on earth is the man trying to do to his own reputation? It was like a bit of a cheap stunt. I really did like him i had a crush on him since the gordon the gopher days but this week i feel quite let down by his actions - and i insist it is NOT that he ate it in the first place ( i agree with his own justification of why he did that and dont hold that against him at all) but WHY tweet a picture of a whole roasted guineapig on it and make such a huge issue out it? ( he is not thick and he knew it would cause offence and he could just as well have posted a picture of himself eating cat or dog in another part of the world - he has done this to cause a bit of publicity for himself (hes doing well at that this week isnt he?)
He now reminds me of all the people that i have met that actually enjoy teasing me for my own beliefs - like the person who deliberately ordered rabbit in a resteraunt and smugly checked out my reaction to it, or like the person who tagged me in this story on facebook as if to say "ha! Bet you dont like this eh?" And the TV chefs who fashionably slag off vegetarians....well...WHY would anyone want to do this? Beyond me why being a veggie would offend anyone but it often does -i often get quizzed by people about why and although I'm happy to explain if someones genuinely interested most of the time i get but you wear leather shoes drink milk eat eggs etc ..yes i drink milk I'm not a vegan...I'm just doing my own thing and that is what I find I can manage to be comfortable with myself and my own peace of mind i never judge anyone else so - i gave up trying to explain why or justify why to anyone else years ago!

Ps - and where IS Gordon the Gopher these days huh? Did he end up marinated and sharing a plate with chips and salad i wonder......:-(

Rant over! :))
 
I have eaten horse, crocodile, kangaroo, ostrich, wild boar, goat, pheasent and rabbit. I will try anything once and would rather eat meat from sources that I know has the welfare of the animals in their care at the utmost. Which is why I got into farming in the first place, I wanted to make sure the meat I produced had the best life possible.

I object to people ranting about farming practices from the uk when they actually know little about how their produce on their plates is created - and this is ALL produce. The uk is one of the few countries that actually follow strict welfare guidelines that other countries ignore, pigs are no longer tethered in small cages where they can stand up or lie down but not turn around or move about, in the eu they still follow this practice, the uk aboloished it back in 98 (as set by the eu itself). In america growth hormones are routinely fed to the animals with antibiotics as preventative measures, in the uk this is illegal. If you want high welfare standards in the meat that is produced you cant do better than brittish meat - more expensive as it costs more to ensure high welfare standards are followed.

Organic is a con, the chemicals used are highly regulated but chemicals can still be used, just specific ones, or as amanda has pointed out there is a higher cull rate, a higher yield loss due to problems with crops etc which can lead to higher intensity of farming to increase profits. All farming is intensive in one way or another, some is less intensive than others depending on level of stock or farm land, but farming is exactly that - farming, to produce food for mass consumption.

Would I eat guinea pig - yes, if I was in a country where this was their culture. If pepper came back with a rabbit she had caught would I eat that - yes I would and I often buy rabbit from the local butcher where I get duck, beef, pork etc from as its locally sourced and I know it is of good quality.

And on the point about milk, if you milked a cow once a day it would produce 15% less milk yield a year than twice a day, there was a practice of milking 3 times a day but that only again increases yield by 15% which in today economic climate wasnt cost efficent. The simple fact is people want to drink milk, cows produce the best type of milk and the best yield of milk so get used for this purpose, the calves are not ripped away, they are with mum for 3 days before the cow is then put in with the herd, the calf is reared (if not culled thanks to the eu beef markets killing off the british beef industry) on milk replacement till weaned. I could go further into the differences between modern farming breeds vs the old traditonal types which are now mostly rare breeds but this thread was about eating guinea pig not the modern farming practice, although i did have to come to the defence of a very old industry in this country which I hold very dear to my heart having been part of it for some years.
 
Lil-Ninnibig said:
What people in peru do is their culture and their right however we and philip are british citizens and there are many a sadistic people in this country who may now harm and eat there pet pigs-twisted people. So i feel it was very irresponsible to broadcast it like he did.
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I appreciate your point of view on this topic but I can't help but feel somewhat amused by this point. Yes, we have sadists in this country and yes, they may harm, mutilate, kill and eat pet animals. But they're sadists! It's crazy to think that they're going to do it because some bloke off the telly ate a guinea pig on his travels to a country that eats guinea pig. If they're going to do it, they're going to do it because they're not right in the head - not because they saw what Philip said and thought "Hm... let's go buy a guinea pig for dinner."

It's culture, it's history. There are quite a few documentaries out there of people eating guinea pigs when they visit Peru. There was one just last year where another relatively well known TV presenter ate it. Did I have a problem with it? No, I didn't. Do I have a problem with the Chinese eating cats and dogs... no. I have a problem with how they 'look after' them but China is a country where vast swathes of the population were starving and when you starve, you eat what you can get your hands on. When you have no money and no food you eat what's around you. In Peru it's guinea pigs, goat and alpaca. In China they eat anything.

I respect Peruvian culture, just how I respect people that choose to indulge in that culture when they are immersed within it. I wouldn't do it myself - in much the same way that I couldn't make myself eat horse or rabbit. But I eat beef, chicken, pork and I love all of those animals too. I've tried ostrich and kangaroo in Holland and I'd probably try other exotic animals if they're bred for their meat and were offered in the country I visited.

I understand how this upsets people because here we have pet guinea pigs and they're very much part of our hearts and homes in Britain. But they aren't in Peru and Philip Schofield did nothing wrong, in my opinion, in eating it when he was there. He also did nothing wrong in saying that he did.
 
I am pretty sure in one of the micheal palin travel adventure shows years ago he ate guinea pig. I also know a programme this year with two celebrities driving in an extreme place stayed somewhere that served them up guinea pig.

It is nothing new, nor that horrifying unless the media turns it into something like it has this time round
 
I remember seeing the michael palin thing and in one epsiode they ordered snake which they filmed being skinned and then killed at your table. Have got to say I didn't need to see that, it lives with me still. I used to keep snakes and I never would have imagined they could scream, but they can. But that is the point of documentaries.. you watch to learn.

I've seen a pic of cooked guinea before on google. I can't say seeing Phil's photo would have stunned me into disgust.. but I would still rather not look at it. I suppose it's an issue of where we post the things we do.. not that we post it at all. I would be a fan of 'blanked' photos that you hover over to show. You are free to show it but dont wrench at people's heartstrings if thats what it might do. The media has a big responsability but it is so self important it refuses to protect people against itself.
 
See the thing with Philip Schofield's photo is that he posted a warning of it before he posted it. Then posted it with a warning on the actual picture as well - anyone who saw it had to click on the link to see it - so it isn't like just because it was on twitter everyone would see it unexpectedly.
 
The fact that he did post a warning shows he knew lots of people wouldnt like it. Philip Scofield is one of those "safe" presenters that you trust because you feel you know him, he does a lot of very difficult interviews with people where he is practised in remaining impartial and not giving strong opinions on things his job is to represent us all as viewers.. Thats why i guess his disregard for those of us who dont like to see what we class as domestic pets used as food in other countries is disapointing - he is entitled to do whatever he likes of course he is - he hasnt done anything wrong no but i think he might have been a little less "in yer face" about it?

My opinion on organic farming is quite strong - i run an organic meat and vegbox company a franchise owned by a farmer called Guy Watson who has just won another ethical award for his organic farming methods - we have an organic dairy and every single carrot or sausage is traceable right back to the farm it came from. Soil Association standard is the highest animal welfare standard you will find in the uk and i suggest anyone who buys meat does look into buying local and organic wherever possible if they feel strongly about animal welfare its worth paying that little bit extra for. Needless to say all my piggies love the organic farm grade out they get as well! drool
 
I don't think it was a disregard, just because people might be bothered because they have pet guinea pigs is no reason not to do it. I personally wouldn't, but I am not bothered that he did.

If the problem is that he was in your face about it, then why is no-one bothered that he ate alpaca on the same trip?

I don't think he should not talk about something or not share pictures of it just because it might offend people - where do you draw the line if other peoples opinions start dictating your life?
 
I have to say I think this is a shocking and serious issue...

Not that he ate the guinea pig, eat what you like I don't give a sugar, but the fact that that's all the newspapers have to get their pants in a twist about!

Poor old Obama must feel rather upstaged on the week of his second inaugaration
 
Ant and Dec said:
I don't think it was a disregard, just because people might be bothered because they have pet guinea pigs is no reason not to do it. I personally wouldn't, but I am not bothered that he did.

If the problem is that he was in your face about it, then why is no-one bothered that he ate alpaca on the same trip?

I don't think he should not talk about something or not share pictures of it just because it might offend people - where do you draw the line if other peoples opinions start dictating your life?
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I didnt know he had eaten Alpaca lol! But i dont think people have many pet Alpaca so that would be why he didnt tweet a picture of that meal...like he wouldnt tweet a picture of his breakfast cereal every day either...that would be boring wouldnt it? You see where I'm coming from, I'm not saying i was offended that he ate guineapig at all, I'm just offended that he was so smug about it - as if it was a two finger salute to those of us that do find it a bit sensitive - I'm not saying he shouldnt have eaten it but the photo was hard to avoid - it was a whole pig with head eyes and ears visable it wasnt chunks of meat it was a horrible picture and it was in every paper and on my newsfeed on facebook and it did make me feel sick. I'm really simply saying he did it to cause a bit of publicity for himself - he knew that people wouldnt like it so why do it. He has done a few out of character things this week seems he wants to change the public perception of him?
 
He didn't post a picture of the guinea pig though did he, he posted a picture of himself on holiday and the guinea pig happened to be in the picture on the table. It's not the same to compare posting a picture of your breakfast. I've posted pictures of myself at the dinner table with my son - should I not have done because my dinner might offend my followers on twitter? It doesn't really matter. And I hardly think he was smug about it or giving a two finger salute, he was just talking about what he did on holiday
 
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He didn't post a picture of the guinea pig though did he, he posted a picture of himself on holiday and the guinea pig happened to be in the picture on the table. It's not the same to compare posting a picture of your breakfast. I've posted pictures of myself at the dinner table with my son - should I not have done because my dinner might offend my followers on twitter? It doesn't really matter. And I hardly think he was smug about it or giving a two finger salute, he was just talking about what he did on holiday
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Of course the picture was about the meal as much as it was about the people in it! You cant compare it an innocent shot of a photo of you and your son at the table - he drew attention to the fact he was eating guineapig, it didn't just "happen" to be there! he tweeted it and he issued a prior warning....do you do that before posting photos of yourself? I meant that i took it as a two finger salute (as if he said well i know people arnt going to like this but I'm going to be controversial anyway) not that he deliberately meant it to be one, just that what he did was a bit thoughtless and tactless really in poor taste (pardon the pun) i remain a fan of Phillips despite this, and even tweeted to him that i was worried about what had happened to Gordon the Gopher! This is simply my opinion on what it meant to me as a fan of his and a guineapig lover thats all. :))
 
Occasionally, yes, I do issue warnings. For instance, there is a picture of me that was taken when I was on holiday. I have a parrot on one shoulder and I am holding another parrot in my arms on it's back like a baby - I issued a warning when I posted the picture to facebook because I know I have friends who are bird lovers and who first may not want to see a picture like that and second given that they were not there when the photo was taken, may have thought that the picture showed cruelty to the bird on it's back. I knew otherwise - the birds did not have their wings clipped, they were free to fly around the auditorium and the door was also open leading to the world outside (not an enclosure, the world) there were no barriers and nothing to stop them, so if they had wanted to fly away, they could do. I issued a warning with the picture because I knew some people may not appreciate it. I think the whole incident with philip schofield has been blown up out of proportion and I don't actually think any harm was meant by it. I do understand why people feel differently than me and I can see the point that people are trying to make on most of the posts in this thread. I just felt like offering my view is all :)
 
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