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Recurring bladder stones... when is euthanasia ok?

SkyPipDotBernie said:
I give it permanently now. I order 3 packs in bulk onlinr from vivovet and syringe feed everyday. I don't know if its doing anything, but it's worth a try. It's supposed to help line the bladder wall. My girl has just had stones flushed and a bad uti. I wouldn't bother using cystease with a healthy Guinea pig showing no signs of bladder problems
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I hope it helps her 🤞🏻Leo has episodes of blood in his urine. Metacam helps but it tends to happen again after a couple of months. He’s had 2 xrays, one didn’t show anything, the next episode showed a stone but the vet thinks it was coincidental. He never seems in too much pain when it happens which leads me to believe it’s something else and as the metacam helps I thought I’d give the cystease a go. Obviously if things get worse or he appears to be in pain I’ll take him back to the vets but things are so awkward right now with the virus and no exotic vets being available that I think this forum is just as knowledgeable, the last vet I took one of my other pigs to see (non-exotic) got his info from the guinealynx site!
 
xToNix said:
I hope it helps her 🤞🏻Leo has episodes of blood in his urine. Metacam helps but it tends to happen again after a couple of months. He’s had 2 xrays, one didn’t show anything, the next episode showed a stone but the vet thinks it was coincidental. He never seems in too much pain when it happens which leads me to believe it’s something else and as the metacam helps I thought I’d give the cystease a go. Obviously if things get worse or he appears to be in pain I’ll take him back to the vets but things are so awkward right now with the virus and no exotic vets being available that I think this forum is just as knowledgeable, the last vet I took one of my other pigs to see (non-exotic) got his info from the guinealynx site!
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Was it a very small stone still in there. on xray? Dot had 2 stones removed by flushing and still has a micro stone remaining that couldn't be reached at the time. I think the bleeding can be caused by the stone moving about when peeing. I'd try the cystease and feed a wet diet, plenty of leafy low calcium greens and grass. Build it up slowly to avoid gut problems
 
furryfriends (TEAS) said:
My vet says we should be feeding a wetter diet! I’ve never had a piggy with a bladder issue, but I feed a very wet diet with lots of grass and a large selection of veg and salad leaves. I made a thread about how I feed and you can find it here!
Feeding the guinea pigs at TEAS
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I follow the diet on the forum made for pigs with bladder issues. I
SkyPipDotBernie said:
Was it a very small stone still in there. on xray? Dot had 2 stones removed by flushing and still has a micro stone remaining that couldn't be reached at the time. I think the bleeding can be caused by the stone moving about when peeing. I'd try the cystease and feed a wet diet, plenty of leafy low calcium greens and grass. Build it up slowly to avoid gut problems
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The stone was removed from his bladder. I’ve given him 1ml today just to make sure he’s ok with it so will keep on top of that and the diet I follow from this site. Thank you the advice x
 
xToNix said:
I follow the diet on the forum made for pigs with bladder issues. I

The stone was removed from his bladder. I’ve given him 1ml today just to make sure he’s ok with it so will keep on top of that and the diet I follow from this site. Thank you the advice x
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I follow the diet recommended by my very guinea pig savvy vet and it’s certainly kept our piggies, at TEAS, bladder issue and bladder stone free! I was just giving you an alternative!
 
I have a guinea pig who we adopted when she was 3, who had a bladder stone when we got her. We decided surgery was too invasive and too expensive, so she has low calcium veg, grain free pellets and filtered water. we also manage her pain with metacam on days when it gets bad. She's been with us for over 2 years now and has no bladder related issues anymore. If your piggy isn't in pain this is something I'd consider x
 
@furryfriends (TEAS) @SkyPipDotBernie I was a little confused by your replies, I felt as though I offended you somehow so I scrolled back up to my reply. For some reason what was meant to be one reply to skypipdotbernie ended up as two replies to the both of you. I apologise for the glitch and if my reply came across in a way that was not intended.
 
Wizzy said:
I have a guinea pig who we adopted when she was 3, who had a bladder stone when we got her. We decided surgery was too invasive and too expensive, so she has low calcium veg, grain free pellets and filtered water. we also manage her pain with metacam on days when it gets bad. She's been with us for over 2 years now and has no bladder related issues anymore. If your piggy isn't in pain this is something I'd consider x
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Metacam definitely seems to help pretty much instantly, I wish it wasn’t a POM as the vets want £41 for a consultation before they can supply me with more metacam which can be a little annoying when I kind of know what the issue is and don’t always want to jump straight to x-rays like they want me to. He’s always perfectly fine in himself other than the bleeding. I’m really glad your piggy is doing well :)
 
xToNix said:
Metacam definitely seems to help pretty much instantly, I wish it wasn’t a POM as the vets want £41 for a consultation before they can supply me with more metacam which can be a little annoying when I kind of know what the issue is and don’t always want to jump straight to x-rays like they want me to. He’s always perfectly fine in himself other than the bleeding. I’m really glad your piggy is doing well :)
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I had that problem as well, but you can ask your vets for a prescription and buy from online. It then turns out much cheaper- £15 for 30ml which lasts quite a while. Have you also looked at cytease? It's for cats but can really help with bladder inflammation in guinea pigs x
 
Wizzy said:
I had that problem as well, but you can ask your vets for a prescription and buy from online. It then turns out much cheaper- £15 for 30ml which lasts quite a while. Have you also looked at cytease? It's for cats but can really help with bladder inflammation in guinea pigs x
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That’s good to know thank you, I’ll enquire about that next time. I have yes, it was the reason I jumped on this post to begin with just to ask how often people administer it :) I gave him 1ml today just to see how he’d tolerate it and he seems ok so I’ll carry on with it for a while and see how he goes :) x
 
xToNix said:
That’s good to know thank you, I’ll enquire about that next time. I have yes, it was the reason I jumped on this post to begin with just to ask how often people administer it :) I gave him 1ml today just to see how he’d tolerate it and he seems ok so I’ll carry on with it for a while and see how he goes :) x
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I give 1 ml a day. Its mixes better if you prepare 3ml in a small pot and keep it n the fridge. Once you run out on the 3rd day, prepare the new batch straight after for the next 3 days
 
Wizzy said:
I have a guinea pig who we adopted when she was 3, who had a bladder stone when we got her. We decided surgery was too invasive and too expensive, so she has low calcium veg, grain free pellets and filtered water. we also manage her pain with metacam on days when it gets bad. She's been with us for over 2 years now and has no bladder related issues anymore. If your piggy isn't in pain this is something I'd consider x
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This is interesting. Would love to know more as we can’t operate on Tommy another time
 
Hi everyone - I didn’t want to create a new thread so just adding to this one. Does anyone have any links to purchase shilintong, or renavive/Chanca Piedra in the UK? Can’t find any UK sellers
 
Eriathwen said:
You're welcome :) it says on the pot to give one pinch 3 times a day, at the moment I'm just doing 1 though as that seems to be enough for him.
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I’ve ordered and it’s coming tomorrow! I think I’ll mix the powder with water for easy syringe feeding.
 
Hi everyone - thank you for all your ongoing advice. I’ve attached images of his bladder stone xrays! We will be monitoring his pain for now as along with my vets advice, we do not think it’s fair to put Tommy through another surgery (this would be his 5th), when he is very likely to continue to develop these stones sadly. For now he is doing well on loxicom and cystaid to keep him comfortable! ❤️AD53D3C0-2D5F-4C16-ADC7-8C9896373567.webpD1967125-58BB-45E9-9A74-1D1250CADB2E.webp
 
I'm so sorry, it's so hard having to go through this. We had 4 months with Bracken under similar circumstances. The vet and I agreed as long as we could control the pain and he was his usual happy self we would keep him going.
When I was going through this a member on the forum told me to remember he doesn't know he's ill. Try to make as many happy memories as you can to treasure forever. I am thinking of you both and hope you can have a while together yet.
 
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