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Should I give the cisapride?

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Ive seen human intestines and there is a large amount......22 feet.takes up most of the lower half of the body from the diaphragm !i hope your piggie gets well soon.you have been given excellent advice.
Thank you! I know for a fact my piggie will get better, she’s gonna live a really long life, I know it :)). Also yes, I’ve gone to a body museum where there were real intestines too, kind of creepy to think all of that is in everyone haha.
 
Update: She stopped pooping for a bit, but I gave her cisapride and she’s back to pooping. She’s still eating and everything, it’s just her stomach that is causing the problems. Despite everything else being completely normal and healthy, which I’m so grateful for :)) , her stomach is still ballooned up and painful. I have no idea how to get these gases out other than massages. Any tips?
 
She's still eating well and pooping, but she's stopped drinking water again (I managed to feed her one syringe of it). Her tummy seems to be a bit smaller than yesterday, although it's still quite large and painful. I've heard that olive oil (1ml) has been used for bloated piggies. Should I try it? I'm kind of frustrated that the vet didn't seem to think this was a big deal (although it was trough the phone, she wasn't seeing her). So, is Zantac good for relieving gases, or to get the guy moving, or both?
 
@Wiebke
She's still eating well and pooping, but she's stopped drinking water again (I managed to feed her one syringe of it). Her tummy seems to be a bit smaller than yesterday, although it's still quite large and painful. I've heard that olive oil (1ml) has been used for bloated piggies. Should I try it? I'm kind of frustrated that the vet didn't seem to think this was a big deal (although it was trough the phone, she wasn't seeing her). So, is Zantac good for relieving gases, or to get the guy moving, or both?
 
Sorry to hear you've been having ongoing problems, it does seem to be getting better though :) well done for your hard work and dedication :tu:

It sounds like you're dealing with gas bloat from the posts above, keep going with the medications you've been prescribed from the vet & the massaging.

I'm not sure on the olive oil so I can't recommend that.
I know a few members have used gripe water with good results, like you suggested earlier (I don't know if you have any supermarkets nearby, but asda&tesco sell gripe water in the UK, I've searched wallmart & Kroger in the USA & came up with these
Gripe water

https://www.kroger.com/search?query=Gripe water&searchType=natural

If they're any help?)

Gripe water is usually found in the baby aisles of a supermarket or in a general pharmacy.

The gripe water works by breaking down the gas into little bubbles & dispersing them more easily.

With Infacol in the UK (possibly similar to the simethicone in the USA) the bubbles join together making a big bubble, for the baby to burp out easily - Guineas aren't really able to do this, so the gas stays in place like trapped wind, making it painful & reducing appetite.

For the moment feed only dry foods such as nuggets, with access to hay & water at all times. In addition keep going with the recovery food to keep her gut moving. As suggested above.

I think with the Zantac it helps to move food through the guts, so pushing through any food to be digested& out the other end, filling the digestive system with a constant supply of food instead of air/gas bubbles that cause problems (however I'm not a health/medical expert so I'm not 100% on this).

Good luck & healing vibes being sent your way for a full & speedy recovery.

Keep up the massaging :)

Xx
Ps it's a Bank Holiday in the UK today so many members may be having a lie in zzz :zzz:
Xx
 
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Sorry to hear you've been having ongoing problems, it does seem to be getting better though :) well done for your hard work and dedication :tu:

It sounds like you're dealing with gas bloat from the posts above, keep going with the medications you've been prescribed from the vet & the massaging.

I'm not sure on the olive oil so I can't recommend that.
I know a few members have used gripe water with good results, like you suggested earlier (I don't know if you have any supermarkets nearby, but asda&tesco sell gripe water in the UK, I've searched wallmart & Kroger in the USA & came up with these
Gripe water

https://www.kroger.com/search?query=Gripe water&searchType=natural

If they're any help?)

Gripe water is usually found in the baby aisles of a supermarket or in a general pharmacy.

The gripe water works by breaking down the gas into little bubbles & dispersing them more easily.

With Infacol in the UK (possibly similar to the simethicone in the USA) the bubbles join together making a big bubble, for the baby to burp out easily - Guineas aren't really able to do this, so the gas stays in place like trapped wind, making it painful & reducing appetite.

For the moment feed only dry foods such as nuggets, with access to hay & water at all times. In addition keep going with the recovery food to keep her gut moving. As suggested above.

I think with the Zantac it helps to move food through the guts, so pushing through any food to be digested& out the other end, filling the digestive system with a constant supply of food instead of air/gas bubbles that cause problems (however I'm not a health/medical expert so I'm not 100% on this).

Good luck & healing vibes being sent your way for a full & speedy recovery.

Keep up the massaging :)

Xx
Ps it's a Bank Holiday in the UK today so many members may be having a lie in zzz :zzz:
Xx
Omg you're great! You and Wiebke have given me the best advice thank you! The links are extremely helpful, thank you again! Gripe water sounds much better than simethicone, more people should know about it. Thank you sm again, I'll be sure to update when my baby is completely healed, which I'm sure is going to be very soon :)). Also i had no idea it was a holiday there oops. Thank you sooo much for helping lots, have a great day/night! :))
 
Update: She stopped pooping for a bit, but I gave her cisapride and she’s back to pooping. She’s still eating and everything, it’s just her stomach that is causing the problems. Despite everything else being completely normal and healthy, which I’m so grateful for :)) , her stomach is still ballooned up and painful. I have no idea how to get these gases out other than massages. Any tips?

I am very sorry that you haven't got any zantac. Can you get hold of ranitidine online; zantac is a vet brand name for it?
Please read the advice in our bloat link. It lists all the possible way you can massage and vibrate. Can you get a cheap electric tooth brush from a supermarked and use the handle for vibrating? Severe bloat is unfortunately not a quick battle. The more you can keep her moving without chasing her around, the better, too.
Bloat, GI Stasis (No Gut Movement) And Not Eating
 
I am very sorry that you haven't got any zantac. Can you get hold of ranitidine online; zantac is a vet brand name for it?
Please read the advice in our bloat link. It lists all the possible way you can massage and vibrate. Can you get a cheap electric tooth brush from a supermarked and use the handle for vibrating? Severe bloat is unfortunately not a quick battle. The more you can keep her moving without chasing her around, the better, too.
Bloat, GI Stasis (No Gut Movement) And Not Eating

Great news! After tons of prayers all day (and a tummy rub before school), I've come home to find my baby almost completely gas-free! :))))))))) I'm so grateful to God and happy. I'll keep her off veggies for a few days more though, so the bit of remaining gases can exit her body. The vet says to put her back Baytril after a few days after she recovers, and possibly Doxycycline again, although with more probiotic and also at a lower dose. I'm going to go get gripe water tomorrow, since I've heard it can help as well. I would like to thank you @Wiebke for not only the great helpful advice, but also for just generally taking a lot of time listening and responding to what was going on. She still sneezing, but that'll go away with the antibiotics, and if it doesn't it's probably just dusty hay. I'll keep an eye on her, either way she'll get through it :)).
 
That is good news. Just bear in mind that when piggies have been very ill there immune system will be lowered and they are more susceptible to other illnesses. Keep a very close eye and don't introduce veggies until you know she is 100% clear of this bloat
 
Great news! After tons of prayers all day (and a tummy rub before school), I've come home to find my baby almost completely gas-free! :))))))))) I'm so grateful to God and happy. I'll keep her off veggies for a few days more though, so the bit of remaining gases can exit her body. The vet says to put her back Baytril after a few days after she recovers, and possibly Doxycycline again, although with more probiotic and also at a lower dose. I'm going to go get gripe water tomorrow, since I've heard it can help as well. I would like to thank you @Wiebke for not only the great helpful advice, but also for just generally taking a lot of time listening and responding to what was going on. She still sneezing, but that'll go away with the antibiotics, and if it doesn't it's probably just dusty hay. I'll keep an eye on her, either way she'll get through it :)).

Please do not stop with the gut medication. The bad news is that your girl is not yet out of the woods. It takes several weeks for the guts to rebalance, and bloating can come back with a vengeance for quite some time yet. Bloat is a serious problem. the first bout may not even be the worst. :(

Please stay on a hay based diet to help the gut microbiome to rebalance and do not feed any veg yet. Intruce veg only slowly, one new one in a small quantity in a few days. Feed veg very sparingly in the future.

All the best!
 
That is good news. Just bear in mind that when piggies have been very ill there immune system will be lowered and they are more susceptible to other illnesses. Keep a very close eye and don't introduce veggies until you know she is 100% clear of this bloat
Although this was a very nasty case, I don't think it was severe bloat. I was still able to touch her tummy without her immediately wincing in pain, she never stopped being active, and other than the beginning, she never stopped eating. I think it was very nasty gases, or very mild bloat. Although of course I'll continue to keep an eye on her :). Her tummy is almost completely back to normal size (a pinch of gases left) and squishy again, but I'm going to ease her very slowly into vegetables again. Although touching upon lowered immune system after a pig is really sick, although with my piggie I do not believe she had bloat, (if she did it was very mild, but I stand by my word, I do believe it was a bad case of gases), would a lowered immune system be permanent? She's been having small gas episodes for a year now, and we get through every one and shall continue to. This was probably the worst one though, I think it was the combination of two strong antibiotics, plus I was feeding both kale and parsley more than usual. I'll cut those two out of their diet as much as I can. As I said, I'll keep a close eye out, although I doubt it'll come back.:))
 
Please do not stop with the gut medication. The bad news is that your girl is not yet out of the woods. It takes several weeks for the guts to rebalance, and bloating can come back with a vengeance for quite some time yet. Bloat is a serious problem. the first bout may not even be the worst. :(

Please stay on a hay based diet to help the gut microbiome to rebalance and do not feed any veg yet. Intruce veg only slowly, one new one in a small quantity in a few days. Feed veg very sparingly in the future.

All the best!
By 'gut medication' do you mean benebac and cisapride? I'm giving lots of benebac but I known cisapride is strong so unless she's stops pooping I'll hold off on it. This case, as well as her past has episodes, was caused by me giving a bit more vegatbles than usual. What made this case of has a bit worse than the others was because we were giving two strong antibiotics along with more veggies. Although as I have mentioned above, this seemed more to be a bad case of has rather than severe bloat. I'll follow your advice @Wiebke on taking the veggies slow. I'm going to put her back on Baytril, and possibly Doxycycline again although I doubt it, when do you suggest I do so? Also do you think gripe water would help get rid of the bit of leftover gases she still has?
 
Hi! My Piggie has a bit of leftovers gases from a bad gas episode she's almost recovered from, and I got a 'Little Remedies Gripe Water' for her. Just to be on the safe side, I want to list the ingredients and get advice if everything in it is safe for her. I'll write the ingredients as well as take pictures. I'm always wondering how much mL I should give her? The recommended dose for babies 2-4 weeks old is 2.5 mL, is this good for her?

5mg of Ginger Root extract
4mg Fennel seed extract
Purified water
Organic agave
Vegetable glycerin
Natural ginger flavor
Potassium sorbate
Citric acid
Xanthan gum


Just because I would like to be able to use it soon, I'm tagging @Wiebke :))
 

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Hi! My Piggie has a bit of leftovers gases from a bad gas episode she's almost recovered from, and I got a 'Little Remedies Gripe Water' for her. Just to be on the safe side, I want to list the ingredients and get advice if everything in it is safe for her. I'll write the ingredients as well as take pictures. I'm always wondering how much mL I should give her? The recommended dose for babies 2-4 weeks old is 2.5 mL, is this good for her?

5mg of Ginger Root extract
4mg Fennel seed extract
Purified water
Organic agave
Vegetable glycerin
Natural ginger flavor
Potassium sorbate
Citric acid
Xanthan gum


Just because I would like to be able to use it soon, I'm tagging @Wiebke :))
Edit: I read on some site that agave is toxic to piggies? But that same site also said iceberg lettuce was fine for piggies to eat in small amounts. The organic agave and vegetable glycerin are what I'm most curious about?hope to hear reply soon :)) @Wiebke
 
I just bought a Little Remedies gripe water today, and one of the ingredients is Organic Agave. Can guinea pigs eat this? I have another thread about the other ingredients. Please
Reply soon :))
 
Edit: I read on some site that agave is toxic to piggies? But that same site also said iceberg lettuce was fine for piggies to eat in small amounts. The organic agave and vegetable glycerin are what I'm most curious about?hope to hear reply soon :)) @Wiebke

I've used gripe water successfully in mild bloating cases without any ill effect over the last decade. It is better at dispersing gas bubbles than infacol, which tends to collect the gas in one large bubble that is very difficult to get out.
Can I just mention that any medications in my care guides have been double-checked by a very experienced exotics vet nurse to make absolutely sure that there is no potentially dangerous advice in there. ;)

Like with iceberg salad and quite few things on the forbidden foods list, there is a big difference between a very small amount in a special circumstance and feeding these things on a daily or near daily bases in large amounts.

I have merged all your threads. Please keep to one thread per topic and ongoing case.
Unlike social media, we can run support threads over longer time. Since we jump between lots of threads and topics, keeping to the rule of 1 health problem = 1 thread helps us to keep all relevant information together and the number of threads down. Thank you!
 
I've used gripe water successfully in mild bloating cases without any ill effect over the last decade. It is better at dispersing gas bubbles than infacol, which tends to collect the gas in one large bubble that is very difficult to get out.
Can I just mention that any medications in my care guides have been double-checked by a very experienced exotics vet nurse to make absolutely sure that there is no potentially dangerous advice in there. ;)

Like with iceberg salad and quite few things on the forbidden foods list, there is a big difference between a very small amount in a special circumstance and feeding these things on a daily or near daily bases in large amounts.

I have merged all your threads. Please keep to one thread per topic and ongoing case.
Unlike social media, we can run support threads over longer time. Since we jump between lots of threads and topics, keeping to the rule of 1 health problem = 1 thread helps us to keep all relevant information together and the number of threads down. Thank you!
Understood! Yes, I'm surprised i had never heard of gripe water till this forum! Sorry that I didn't quite understand yet, so does that mean that I can give them the gripe water even though it has organic agave in it?
 
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