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My piggy is not eating hay

Hey I’m so sorry if I’m over analyzing. Quick update: I just weighed him and he lost 45 grams, which I assume is better than 50.
I’m just wondering what is this?
It’s like a light brown paste and gooey.

Can you clarify - do you mean he has lost 45g since yesterday?
If so, then you need to try to get more syringe feed into him each day to stop the weight loss occurring.
 
Can you clarify - do you mean he has lost 45g since yesterday?
If so, then you need to try to get more syringe feed into him each day to stop the weight loss occurring.
Yes, how much more should I feed? I around 47 ml today with him very unhappy. 😭 I’m also thinking of taking him to another vet tomorrow and see if we can figure out what’s wrong. He tries to drink his water from the water bottle too and tilts his head but then gives up. I put a bowl in and syringe fed some water though
 
Yes, how much more should I feed? I around 47 ml today with him very unhappy. 😭 I’m also thinking of taking him to another vet tomorrow and see if we can figure out what’s wrong. He tries to drink his water from the water bottle too and tilts his head but then gives up. I put a bowl in and syringe fed some water though

He needs as much as it takes to stabilise and stop his weight loss. Currently, it doesn’t sound like you have that balance.

40ml is the minimum to keep gut functioning, with a minimum of 60ml being the amount to aim for.

I definitely would take him to another vet. It is certainly sounding like there is something medical going on.
 
Hey I’m so sorry if I’m over analyzing. Quick update: I just weighed him and he lost 45 grams, which I assume is better than 50.
I’m just wondering what is this?
It’s like a light brown paste and gooey.
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Hi

It could be either runny diarrhea or if it is jelly-like or rubbery, it could be part of the mucus membrane at the exit of the caecum (the last and biggest of the fermentation chambers of the lower gut). It is there to catch gut microbiome from passing out of the gut. Very, very occasionally, some mucus slip through and once or twice we have seen this happen with a larger piece in guinea pigs with persistent digestive issues.
However, research into guinea pig digestion and nutrient/medication absorption and processing is only very recent and still very much ongoing. This is reflecting very recent research. Why this happens and what could be causing it are questions we can't answer but at least we know where those freak and usually one-off jelly like deposits come from.

This guide here explains the digestive tract in guinea pigs and how it works:

Please try to get as much feed into him as possible.
 
Hi

It could be either runny diarrhea or if it is jelly-like or rubbery, it could be part of the mucus membrane at the exit of the caecum (the last and biggest of the fermentation chambers of the lower gut). It is there to catch gut microbiome from passing out of the gut. Very, very occasionally, some mucus slip through and once or twice we have seen this happen with a larger piece in guinea pigs with persistent digestive issues.
However, research into guinea pig digestion and nutrient/medication absorption and processing is only very recent and still very much ongoing. This is reflecting very recent research. Why this happens and what could be causing it are questions we can't answer but at least we know where those freak and usually one-off jelly like deposits come from.

This guide here explains the digestive tract in guinea pigs and how it works:

Please try to get as much feed into him as possible.
Thank you! I’ll keep checking on his weight as well :)
 
Hi

It could be either runny diarrhea or if it is jelly-like or rubbery, it could be part of the mucus membrane at the exit of the caecum (the last and biggest of the fermentation chambers of the lower gut). It is there to catch gut microbiome from passing out of the gut. Very, very occasionally, some mucus slip through and once or twice we have seen this happen with a larger piece in guinea pigs with persistent digestive issues.
However, research into guinea pig digestion and nutrient/medication absorption and processing is only very recent and still very much ongoing. This is reflecting very recent research. Why this happens and what could be causing it are questions we can't answer but at least we know where those freak and usually one-off jelly like deposits come from.

This guide here explains the digestive tract in guinea pigs and how it works:

Please try to get as much feed into him as possible.

The picture you posted looks maybe like diarrhoea?
Took him to a second vet. Vet said his teeth are crooked and he cannot close his mouth which is why the food falls out and he cannot eat. He has to have dental work done at an exotic hospital if he can. If it is not possible, we will have to put him to sleep…
 
Took him to a second vet. Vet said his teeth are crooked and he cannot close his mouth which is why the food falls out and he cannot eat. He has to have dental work done at an exotic hospital if he can. If it is not possible, we will have to put him to sleep…
Kinda sad that the first vet didn’t see it even though we did mention it though :(
 
Took him to a second vet. Vet said his teeth are crooked and he cannot close his mouth which is why the food falls out and he cannot eat. He has to have dental work done at an exotic hospital if he can. If it is not possible, we will have to put him to sleep…

I am very sorry for the bad news.
 
Thank you, we are currently on the way to the hospital. Hopefully all goes well

I am keeping my fingers very firmly crossed.

 
Thinking of you. How is he doing?
Thank you. The third vet we went to told us it wasn’t a teeth problem and actually an eye problem. She did say however that below his jaw/chin she felt something and isn’t sure if it’s just jaw structure or something else. She told us to see if he feels better with different medications and if not to come back. Sent him home with higher dosage of pain meds, eye drops, and hunger simulator. She did say that if he wasn’t feeling better in a few days, we’d have to put him under so she could do a more thorough checkup (which I know also has it’s risks :( Last night after the vet he was feeling a lot better and drinking a little water and eating a little. His weight even went up by a few grams.
Today, he ate less by himself and was pretty lethargic according to my mom and has been staying in the hideout. Currently up at 1:21 am feeding him critical care. Since 24 hours he has lost 7 grams which isn’t a lot thankfully.
 
Thank you. The third vet we went to told us it wasn’t a teeth problem and actually an eye problem. She did say however that below his jaw/chin she felt something and isn’t sure if it’s just jaw structure or something else. She told us to see if he feels better with different medications and if not to come back. Sent him home with higher dosage of pain meds, eye drops, and hunger simulator. She did say that if he wasn’t feeling better in a few days, we’d have to put him under so she could do a more thorough checkup (which I know also has it’s risks :( Last night after the vet he was feeling a lot better and drinking a little water and eating a little. His weight even went up by a few grams.
Today, he ate less by himself and was pretty lethargic according to my mom and has been staying in the hideout. Currently up at 1:21 am feeding him critical care. Since 24 hours he has lost 7 grams which isn’t a lot thankfully.

All the best.

Higher pain meds will hopefully help. Is your vet concerned about an eye infection, an abscess behind the eye or what are they worried about?

Make sure that you get 6 hours rest time each night without getting up. It is vital that you look after yourself so you can keep on looking after others and don't suddenly burn and crash.
 
All the best.

Higher pain meds will hopefully help. Is your vet concerned about an eye infection, an abscess behind the eye or what are they worried about?

Make sure that you get 6 hours rest time each night without getting up. It is vital that you look after yourself so you can keep on looking after others and don't suddenly burn and crash.
Sorry for the late reply, it’s been a hectic few days. My vet said it was a hay poke or scratch that caused the red circle in his eye. They gave him tobramycin eye drops and it went away however his eyes are still looking suspiciously wet.
We are going to the vet again in a few hours. This time they want to sedate him, do an oral exam, x-ray of the skull, and a blood test. Please give me any advice. I am extremely nervous. So far, this is the 4th vet visit in less than a week and over $1k, at this point it’s not even about the vet bills we just want to know what’s wrong and help him feel better :(
It’s so weird because after the tobramycin, his right eye is better but now his left has greyish watery discharge and wet eyes
 
I am very sorry. Could he have got another hay poke on the other eye? It's happened once or twice with piggies of mine.
 
I am very sorry. Could he have got another hay poke on the other eye? It's happened once or twice with piggies of mine.
that might be a possibility. I don’t see anything in his eye or redness so I’m not sure but could it be under his eye?
 
You and Newton are in my thoughts. Keeping my fingers crossed 💜 my hooligans sends him love and strength
 
that might be a possibility. I don’t see anything in his eye or redness so I’m not sure but could it be under his eye?

It could be stuck under his eyelid in which case is it is most likely an ulcerating (infected) scratched surface area that should heal pretty straight forward with antibiotic eye drops. Unfortunately, sight unseen we cannot comment.
 
It could be stuck under his eyelid in which case is it is most likely an ulcerating (infected) scratched surface area that should heal pretty straight forward with antibiotic eye drops. Unfortunately, sight unseen we cannot comment.

PS: Persistently watering eyes (without infection) can occasionally be an indication of overgrowing dental roots. I assume that your vets want to make sure that this is not the case.
Can you have a quick look at the incisors? If they are nice and even where they meet, and not slanted, jagged or with a v-shaped dip in the middle, then it is much more unlikely to be a dental problem. That should hopefully allay some of your worries.
 
PS: Persistently watering eyes (without infection) can occasionally be an indication of overgrowing dental roots. I assume that your vets want to make sure that this is not the case.
Can you have a quick look at the incisors? If they are nice and even where they meet, and not slanted, jagged or with a v-shaped dip in the middle, then it is much more unlikely to be a dental problem. That should hopefully allay some of your worries.
Ah okay. I think they look a little slanted but maybe it is the angle. I just dropped him off at the vet for prep and another check up before anesthesia. Hopefully the problem is fixable. Praying all goes well. IMG_9558.webp
 
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