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Iris isnt very well! Helppppp!

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Any news, Miss Magpie? I hope all is well with Iris today, please do update when you can. x
 
Just to let you all know before I go on, i wasnt happy with the treatment at the first vet i took Iris to. That was the vet that felt her tummy and just gave me baytril and i had to ask for probiotics too and she got a little touchy.
The vets that I am with now have been fantastic and really understanding and have been there with a tissue as ive cried in every visit lol :))
And although you all think that the histerectomy was unnessisary, I think it was for the best in the long run.
So...On to today. I rung them this morning and they said shes fine but not eating so i'd have to syringe feed her and that I could pick her up about 4. So i went into university and I was a mess all day worrying about her. I'd made the decition that if she was in a state, i'd have her put to sleep because I dont want her suffering. So i turned up and eventually they called me in. She didnt look too good and it did get a little upset and told them my concerns and that I didnt want her suffering. So she called in another vet to have a chat to me.
He was fantastic and really eased my worries. He said that after putting her through all this surgery that she should be given the chance to pull through it and I agreed. He made me feel so much better. He held her up a little so I could stroke her head and say hello and then when he put her down she tried to hide and shoved her head under the blankets like the stubborn little madam she is :) He didnt get my hopes up and said that there is a chance that she'll recover. I told him I was worried that she'd go downhill when I was at home, so he offered me that she stay at the vet for a few days and nights for the nurses to take care of her and syringe feed her until shes out of the worst. Then he told me that they wouldnt charge me for it and I am absolutely landed with it and I'm so happy that shes in their safe hands should anything go wrong with her! I then talked about the financial side and told him i wasnt elegable for any help from the pdsa as i was a student. He then said that I didnt need to worry and that i wouldnt pay anything more than £250. He asked me her favourite veggies so they could get them i for her too.
I'm feeling much better now. Hes really put my mind at ease and really its over to Iris now to fight.
Please everyone cross everything you've got that Iris will get better. If shes anything like she was at food time with Greta fighting her off for the best veggies, then I'm sure she'll pull through.

Come on Iris! ^)
 
:)) aww bless her, at least now she has a fighting chance and I'm so glad you spoke to someone who put your mind at ease a little.

Fingers and toes all crossed for your little mite :)
 
Miss Magpie said:
Just to let you all know before I go on, i wasnt happy with the treatment at the first vet i took Iris to. That was the vet that felt her tummy and just gave me baytril and i had to ask for probiotics too and she got a little touchy.
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As I suspected - "I can't feel a stone, and I have magic fingers that can detect crystals through flesh at 100 paces"... :(

And although you all think that the histerectomy was unnessisary, I think it was for the best in the long run.
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I'm far from convinced it was necessary, but I think my negativity on the matter is it was one more surgical procedure on an already very poorly pigge, and one that even if proven necessary in the long run could have waited till she'd recovered from *this* current illness. People on here will say a full hysterectomy isn't needed and either leave alone or injections will suffice. Many vets I've spoken to say ovarian cysts often turn cancerous, which is why they opt immediately for taking all the plumbing out. I'm currently on the fence on this issue, leaning more towards injections but still not totally opposed to surgery (although I did lose Stupes to a spay that went horribly wrong last year :( ).

So...On to today. I rung them this morning and they said shes fine but not eating so i'd have to syringe feed her and that I could pick her up about 4.

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Please everyone cross everything you've got that Iris will get better. If shes anything like she was at food time with Greta fighting her off for the best veggies, then I'm sure she'll pull through.

Come on Iris! ^)
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Great news that she's still fighting :) She's going to be horrendously off her food with all that's happened, and very tender too, but providing the vets can keep up the feeding, gut stimulant and probably an appetite stimulant (along with pain relief!) then there's absolutely no reason to give up hope! :)
 
From what you have posted I feel that the hysterectomy was not necessary.
At her relatively advanced age the last thing I would be concerned about would be the very low risk of malignant change.
What is the update on the stone in the urethra?
 
The most important thing is that she seems to be on the mend *touch wood*, and that you have a lovely understanding vet who isn't going to charge you extortionate amounts is a bonus. I have everything crossed for Iris, I hope she'll be feeling better very soon. Hugs to you both :)
 
Well the stone has moved and she is weeing.
I rung them last night to check up and they said she was getting distressed everytime they were trying to syringe feed her.
I'm waiting for them to call me now for an update. I just hope they ring me before 10 because i've got work :(
 
Great update, I am so pleased the vets are being so helpful and considerate. Fingers crossed for a quick recovery. x
 
The stone is still in her urethra but further down. I'm hopeing it either wont move (which I'm sure you'll tell me it will) or she'll pass it herself in time. They are keeping her in again today and they might let me take her home tomorrow. annnd...shes pooping and weeing so thats good :)
 
A stone that is 1cm diameter is too big to be passed to the outside world. However, as you say, the good news it that it has passed further down towards the end.
It is easy to remove it then, certainly no need for a GA whatsoever.
Best wishes.
 
alcesterpigs said:
A stone that is 1cm diameter is too big to be passed to the outside world. However, as you say, the good news it that it has passed further down towards the end.
It is easy to remove it then, certainly no need for a GA whatsoever.
Best wishes.
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I'm not sure of the actual size, i didnt really ask i just guessed from the xray. But there is a possibility that she could do it?
I know it sounds silly but I'm petrified for when she comes out of the vet. I just think i wont be able to match the care she'd get at the vet and I'm worried she'd go downhill. Silly really *** il wait on her hand and foot/paw and foot and give her lots of cuddles and talk to her.

x
 
I have removed stones from the end of the urethra of sows and there is no way they can pass stones that big, 1cm.
I would estimate from sows that have passed stones that the biggest diameter would be about 2mm.
However, for the moment, that is academic, worry about Iris and the stone if, or when, it does move to the end.
I have no doubt that you will match, or even surpass, the quality of care she received from the vet. You will have the time and the home care they cannot give.
 
I have to agree with alcesterpigs that even though the vets are doing a fantastic job caring for her at the vet, you can give so much more from the view of love and care when she comes home. She will really appreciate cuddling in your arms again and being in her own surroundings. I know it sounds daunting, but you will be fine xx
 
I rung them last night and they'd given her dandilion leaves and she absolutely munched them :) I rung this morning and they said shes perked up and walking about and nuzzleing her head in the hay, she hasnt eaten more dandilion leaves but she seems to be feeling better :)
The nurse said she is a lovely little thing too ^)
Things are looking up for her! Goooo Irisssss!
 
Well i just rang again to check up on her. She was sleeping but they said shes been okay. They are still syringe feeding her but they told me that shes passed some poo's and they are looking normal. I'm so excited that shes doing well..buuut I'm afraid to get too excited just incase something goes wrong. Ive had the worst ever luck in the past 9 months that no-one would believe! But i really hope this wont be the end of her, shes a cracking little piggie and I love her to bits!
 
It sounds like she's doing great! I hope she's able to come back home with you in the next few days. I know the feeling, I battled a variety of illnesses with my pigs for 2 years without much of a break, and lost three pigs to different ailments. Now I just take note of improvements ("Aha, the abscess seems to be empty today..." ) but I don't celebrate until they are back to full health!
 
They let me bring her home today. Shes in such a mess. I put her in the cage and she pushed and dragged herself in her little house as she couldnt stand. Shes just lying there. I honestly think they have given her back to be for her to die at home.
I broke down and I'm so confused. She is suffering and I hate myself for doing this to an animal I love so much.
Her Daughter Greta is in the cage too and she is petrified of her. She goes wild when she goes anywhere near her so ive had to put in their spare pigloo for greta to go in because she is so frightened.

I tried to feed her parsley but she just put it in her mouth as if she was trying for me but she didnt have the energy to chew it.
I really hope she passes away peacefully today or tonight, otherwise i am going to put her to sleep tomorrow. This is so cruel on her and I just want her to be at peace.
 
I'm so sorry, my heart is sinking reading this. For the vets to give you the impression, time after time, that she's well on the road to recovery, and then for her to be in such a state when you do get her home...it's just odd. She may be a bit thrown at the change in environment, even though she knows her home she's been through an awful lot. I do still think it's best she is with you, whatever happens.
Is she on painkillers? I'd be surprised if she's not, it certainly won't be helping if they've not been keeping her pain free.

Please take care of yourself, give Iris lots of love and cuddles. I hope for a miracle. x
 
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I'm so sorry, my heart is sinking reading this. For the vets to give you the impression, time after time, that she's well on the road to recovery, and then for her to be in such a state when you do get her home...it's just odd. She may be a bit thrown at the change in environment, even though she knows her home she's been through an awful lot. I do still think it's best she is with you, whatever happens.
Is she on painkillers? I'd be surprised if she's not, it certainly won't be helping if they've not been keeping her pain free.

Please take care of yourself, give Iris lots of love and cuddles. I hope for a miracle. x
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No they have given me any painkillers which i didnt understand. they just gave me probiotic, syringe food and baytril. I'm glad shes home with me but its breaking my heart to see her like this, I'm ashamed of myself for it coming to this and ashamed that shes suffering.
I think its best that shes put to sleep if shes doesnt go i the next 24hours.
 
Whilst there is life there is hope. Don't have her "put down" for your benefit.
 
Miss Magpie said:
They let me bring her home today. Shes in such a mess. I put her in the cage and she pushed and dragged herself in her little house as she couldnt stand. Shes just lying there. I honestly think they have given her back to be for her to die at home.
I broke down and I'm so confused. She is suffering and I hate myself for doing this to an animal I love so much.
Her Daughter Greta is in the cage too and she is petrified of her. She goes wild when she goes anywhere near her so ive had to put in their spare pigloo for greta to go in because she is so frightened.

I tried to feed her parsley but she just put it in her mouth as if she was trying for me but she didnt have the energy to chew it.
I really hope she passes away peacefully today or tonight, otherwise i am going to put her to sleep tomorrow. This is so cruel on her and I just want her to be at peace.
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oh I'm so sorry i really thought iris was coming good:( don't doubt your choices without you trying she wouldn't have had a shot just know that you havesupport here and that we are all still hoping she will pull through:0
 
I'm afraid she took a massive turn for the worse. I took her back to the vet and had a chat, and decided that it would be best to put her to sleep. She was so so ill and there was nothing more that could have been done. The suffering she was having to endure was too much for her and I'm glad that she is now sleeping in peace, pain free and not suffering.

Signing that paper was the hardest thing i have ever done in my life.

I'll miss her so much and so will Greta.
Sweet dreams my sweetheart. I love you.
 
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