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Do not use bug sprays on them. You're not a vet and not qualified to treat them. If you think something is wrong you need to get them to the vet for diagnosis and meds if needed. Home treating can lead to other issues. And you don't need to shampoo them either. As I said earlier, they don't need washing regularly unless they have a dirty bottom from poo or for medical reasons.
The person who worked at the shop had said there are many bugs that lurk the grounds. She recommended I sprayed them whenever I took the piggies out. I only used the spray once thank god.
 
As a pro rescue forum, it doesn't matter how much they cost. We will always encourage rescue over buying due to the risks associated with it - missexing, pregnancies etc

What is that in that food bowl? Looks like seeds of some sort?

Right - you need to make sure your boar pair are bonding properly. They will be in a period of establishing for the next two weeks. Hopefully all will be fine between them and they will live a long and happy life together.
IF their bond fails, they will need to be immediately separated and put into separate cages.
They will then need to be appropriately bonded with a character compatible companion. Ideally a new companion sought via dating.
Buying a piggy is very risky due to misexing but also as you dont know whether they will be compatible. You could so easily get it wrong and then you will need more cages, have more single piggies and each one needing their own new friend. If a compatible boar friend is found then each pair must be kept in separate cages measuring 180cm x 60cm.
Any bonding you attempt yourself must be done on neutral territory and the Piggies must be in a bonding pen for several hours before being transferred to their thoroughly cleaned out cage to live. IF it fails, then they must be immediately separated and live separately

IF their bond fails and you decide to get them a sow each, then:
Each piggy must be neutered and must be kept away from sows for six weeks post op to become infertile.
At that point you can then go dating to find a suitable character compatible companion to bond them with.



You dont need to use a spray for mites on guinea pigs. Doing so when they dont have mites can be harmful. If you suspect they have mites, then they must be taken to a vet, diagnosed and prescribed the correct course of treatment to deal with mites. Using a spray every now and then won't do anything
Which bugs are these?
not sure I’ll take a picture of the spray
 

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As a pro rescue forum, it doesn't matter how much they cost. We will always encourage rescue over buying due to the risks associated with it - missexing, pregnancies etc

What is that in that food bowl? Looks like seeds of some sort?

Right - you need to make sure your boar pair are bonding properly. They will be in a period of establishing for the next two weeks. Hopefully all will be fine between them and they will live a long and happy life together.
IF their bond fails, they will need to be immediately separated and put into separate cages.
They will then need to be appropriately bonded with a character compatible companion. Ideally a new companion sought via dating.
Buying a piggy is very risky due to misexing but also as you dont know whether they will be compatible. You could so easily get it wrong and then you will need more cages, have more single piggies and each one needing their own new friend. If a compatible boar friend is found then each pair must be kept in separate cages measuring 180cm x 60cm.
Any bonding you attempt yourself must be done on neutral territory and the Piggies must be in a bonding pen for several hours before being transferred to their thoroughly cleaned out cage to live. IF it fails, then they must be immediately separated and live separately

IF their bond fails and you decide to get them a sow each, then:
Each piggy must be neutered and must be kept away from sows for six weeks post op to become infertile.
At that point you can then go dating to find a suitable character compatible companion to bond them with.



You dont need to use a spray for mites on guinea pigs. Doing so when they dont have mites can be harmful. If you suspect they have mites, then they must be taken to a vet, diagnosed and prescribed the correct course of treatment to deal with mites. Using a spray every now and then won't do anything
I bought these pellets from Coles (Australian super market). I ran out of the pellets I normally give them (Peckish Guinea pig & Rabbit pellets). This new brand is Peters Alfalfa & fruits.
 
They shouldn't have fruit or nuts. Nor should they be eating pellets made for rabbits! 🙄
 
not sure I’ll take a picture of the spray

that's really not necessary to use.
Treating mites is done as part of a course of prescription strength medication at certain intervals between each treatment, but only when there is a diagnosed case.
using low dosed products available from a pet shop which are not medications and are used only as preventatives causes problems. resistance can form and when you really do have a mite problem, treatment is much less effective.

I bought these pellets from Coles (Australian super market). I ran out of the pellets I normally give them (Peckish Guinea pig & Rabbit pellets). This new brand is Peters Alfalfa & fruits.

I've just looked that food up online and if it is the same one, then it is not appropriate to be fed to guinea pigs - the ingredients are things which piggies shouldn't have. that much fruit in their diet will cause huge health issues. the grains aren't suitable for guinea pigs either and the alfalfa should not be given to older piggies due to the high levels of calcium which can lead to bladder stone formation. They need a plain hay or grass based pellet fortified with vitamin c and intended just for guinea pigs, not one which claims to be suitable for rabbits and guinea pigs because the dietary needs of rabbits and guinea pigs are very different.
 
The shop keeper is in it to make sales. I doubt they have much experience or knowledge of keeping guinea pigs. You need to start sieving what you hear and read. It's up to you what you do at the end of the day, but be aware that not everything you hear is true.
 
that's really not necessary to use.
Treating mites is done as part of a course of prescription strength medication at certain intervals between each treatment, but only when there is a diagnosed case.
using low dosed products available from a pet shop which are not medications and are used only as preventatives causes problems. resistance can form and when you really do have a mite problem, treatment is much less effective.



I've just looked that food up online and if it is the same one, then it is not appropriate to be fed to guinea pigs - the ingredients are things which piggies shouldn't have. that much fruit in their diet will cause huge health issues. the grains aren't suitable for guinea pigs either and the alfalfa should not be given to older piggies due to the high levels of calcium which can lead to bladder stone formation. They need a plain hay or grass based pellet fortified with vitamin c and intended just for guinea pigs, not one which claims to be suitable for rabbits and guinea pigs because the dietary needs of rabbits and guinea pigs are very different.
I normally feed my piggies Peckish and Vetafarm. Is that okay? I normally mix them.
 
They shouldn't have fruit or nuts. Nor should they be eating pellets made for rabbits! 🙄
I wasn’t aware since it says guinea pigs. I got my peckish pellets and I’m changing their pellets now! I do give my guinea pig dates once or twice a day as a treat.
 
Bit late to the party here but... why dont you have a good read of all the forum guides @Erwin & Baymax on diet, pellet brands, sexing, companionship, avoiding pregnancy, health care, housing, vet care and not home trwating on spec... etc etc... then come back later once you have read all that key info that we already have compiled for newbies like yourself? Also with pics of your piggies and set up- seems everyone is asking, but you arent sharing, just asking folks about things covered in the care guides? Just skimming through this here after a couple of weeks off I'm struggling to understand how many pigs you have of what ages and sexes, in what sort of living arrangement...! So why not post that first, piggy photos and cages etc, then go do a bit of reading of our really helpful care guides :)
 
Bit late to the party here but... why dont you have a good read of all the forum guides @Erwin & Baymax on diet, pellet brands, sexing, companionship, avoiding pregnancy, health care, housing, vet care and not home trwating on spec... etc etc... then come back later once you have read all that key info that we already have compiled for newbies like yourself? Also with pics of your piggies and set up- seems everyone is asking, but you arent sharing, just asking folks about things covered in the care guides? Just skimming through this here after a couple of weeks off I'm struggling to understand how many pigs you have of what ages and sexes, in what sort of living arrangement...! So why not post that first, piggy photos and cages etc, then go do a bit of reading of our really helpful care guides :)
I have posted pictures of the piggy cages for my sows not yet my boars since it’s night right now. I’ll post the boars when I wake up.
 
Bit late to the party here but... why dont you have a good read of all the forum guides @Erwin & Baymax on diet, pellet brands, sexing, companionship, avoiding pregnancy, health care, housing, vet care and not home trwating on spec... etc etc... then come back later once you have read all that key info that we already have compiled for newbies like yourself? Also with pics of your piggies and set up- seems everyone is asking, but you arent sharing, just asking folks about things covered in the care guides? Just skimming through this here after a couple of weeks off I'm struggling to understand how many pigs you have of what ages and sexes, in what sort of living arrangement...! So why not post that first, piggy photos and cages etc, then go do a bit of reading of our really helpful care guides :)
I have 1 big daddy boar. I have 3 babies (2 sows and 1 boar). The babies were born on the 13th of January 2021. The 2 sows will be soon rehomed to another owner while I keep the boars. 2 sows are in a cage downstairs while the boars are free roam. :)
 
I do have an idea. Is it okay if I neutralise the baby boar if the bonding doesn’t work out and give him to my friend who has the other 2 sows. Will that work out? Obviously I will seperate the 2boars immediately if the bond isn’t working out and they are fighting.
 
You don't neutralise an animal, that means to kill something!. Please use the correct terms - neuter. And no, it wouldn't be okay to do that. Why would you leave your one boar alone?

This question has already been answered several times. Go back and actually read the responses instead of ignoring and asking the same thing repeatedly.
 
You don't neutralise an animal, that means to kill something!. Please use the correct terms - neuter. And no, it wouldn't be okay to do that. Why would you leave your one boar alone?

This question has already been answered several times. Go back and actually read the responses instead of ignoring and asking the same thing repeatedly.
People want me to figure out a plan and I don’t really have one. I’ve read the responses more than twice. I can possibly adopt another sow for my one boar.
 
its important to have a plan though when it comes to how to keep animals. things could happen and you might not have time to then think things through and instead action is needed immediately.
if the bond between your two boars fails, then they need to live in separate cages but the cages need to be side by side so they can still talk to each other through the bars to prevent loneliness. what you couldn't do is give the baby boar to your friend with the sows because the baby boar won't be neutered and post neuter safe, plus your boar would then be alone until he was also neutered and post neuter safe. If things go wrong between your boars, it would be a long time before you could get either of them bonded again with other piggies.
a baby boar cannot be neutered until his testicles descend which is somewhere between 4 and 6 months of age.
 
Ohhh that makes sense now. I can still have both of them without having to swap piggies or get new ones. I just need 2 cages right? When it comes to floor time do they do it separately?
 
Ohhh that makes sense now. I can still have both of them without having to swap piggies or get new ones. I just need 2 cages right? When it comes to floor time do they do it separately?

If two piggies cannot have a functioning bond and live together, then they cannot have physical contact so it must be separate floor times.

For a bonded pair of boars to live together, their cage needs to be 180 cm x 60cm.
If they fall out and have to live separately in side by side cages, then they must have a cage each measuring a minimum of 120 cm x 60cm, but bigger is better.

The cage the sows are in looks small from the pictures so it isn't suitable for one of the boars to live in and it definitely isn't suitable for both of them.

And to add, please dont feed your guinea pigs dates. They should never eat dried fruits at all. A diet high in sugars will make them ill.
Even fresh fruit should not be given often - one tiny piece, once per week only
 
From my memory, the pet store only offered very small cages where can I get big enough cages for the piggies? If they are free roamed do they still need a cage? I give my piggies 1 slice of apple a day. Also I give them the white part of a water melon ( sometimes the red part in a little amount) if it’s a hot day.
 
From my memory, the pet store only offered very small cages where can I get big enough cages for the piggies? If they are free roamed do they still need a cage? I give my piggies 1 slice of apple a day. Also I give them the white part of a water melon ( sometimes the red part in a little amount) if it’s a hot day.

i don’t know where you can buy cages in australia. Try looking online.
if they are free roaming you must be there constantly to watch them. unless the room is very safe and there isn’t a single item they can chew, then they should be caged when you aren’t there to watch them

There is far too much fruit. One slice of apple per week only. They don’t even need fruit in their diet Really. Mine get fruit once or twice a year if they are lucky. Too much sugar causes unhealthy weight gain but also causes the gut bacteria to unbalance which can lead to digestive problems
 
In the UK most pet shops do not sell cages large enough for guinea pig welfare. I suggest you look online for large enough cages. I cannot tell which companies deliver to Australia.
 
You think spending money on vet is too expensive, you're keeping them in tiny cage and instead of saving money for better habitat and vet you're taking more pictures of animals in pet shops?
You're not willing to have them checked by a vet, yet planning to neuter?! You know that'll cost a lot more compared to a vet check up? And won't help you immediately with the situation you're in. The only way that would work is if all 3 babies were girls and you got dad neutered. But frankly, you shouldn't have 4 pigs since you're not willing to upgrade their accommodation or get them to a vet.

You need to get in touch with a reputable rescue so they can check the pigs, sex them properly and rehome the females.
You're coming across very selfish and like you don't realise you're dealing with sentient beings. You cannot put your need to have cute pigs for photo opportunities cooped in tiny cage and after few days of receiving clear instructions still not knowing what the right thing to do is.
It's not difficult, get them all to a vet, surrender females to a reputable rescue and keep boys. Get them proper accommodation (you have enough space). Easy....

I do hope you're just trolling, because it's scary an adult can have this little regard to animal welfare. They're not toys or photo props...
 
As one of the staff team, I think it’s time to step in and close this thread.

@Erwin & Baymax you have access to all our guides. Please read them.
You’ve been given more advice in a couple of days than most other members get in months of membership on here and we are going round in circles. You keep contradicting yourself.

In short there is little more we can offer by way of advice to you .
 
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