Fallen Out Boars

Lizzie24

Lizzie24

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Hi I am after some advice. I have 2 boars brothers 17months old. Had them since they were babies and they have got along well until the last couple of months where they have started fighting :(
They have always shown quite a bit of dominance behaviour but recently had 2 bad fights where they have drawn blood So I had to separate them. I put them back together after the first time but then they had a fight overnight about a week later so separated again. I tried introducing them again today and initially they seemed to be working it out and were even laying down next to each other.
But then things started getting very heated and the fighting started again so now are separated again as didn't want to risk anymore bloodshed.
My dad has made me a separator with mesh that I can take in and out of their hutch so they can live next to each other.
Will they be happy living like this long term so they can still see and talk to each other through the cage?
Or is it best to get another hutch and try and get them both a new companion each?
Also was wondering if it's worth trying them together again in the future?
They have a 5ft x 2ft hutch and 2 of everything. Have also tried bonding bath before re introducing them and still no luck. Really want them to get along but it's not looking good! Any help with what to do would be great. Thank you.
 
They should be,fine separated but living next to each other ...
 
I'm having the same problem at the minute with scooby and shaggy. They now have a massive enclosure 2 water bottles, 2 water bowls, 2 food bowls, 2 trays with saw dust layer then lots of hay. 2 different snugs 2 tunnels. Really good diet. And they are still not happy, fighting all the time. No blood drawn but hair torn out.
I initially thought it was because they were next to the new two boars (babies stupidly cute ). Do they have been moved into another room.
But they do eat out of the same bowl. Will come to get veggie treats when passing through the kitchen. But randomly just keep kicking off. I'm going to give it another night then split their enclosure into two. It will still be big enough for them both......hopefully they will be cuddling each other as I type this.
 
Hello welcome to the forum.

Sadly once blood has been drawn it probably wont work again and could result in further injury to the point I wouldn't risk a re-bonding after two fights. you could keep them separated or if you have a rescue close to you that offers piggy dating you could try finding separate friends
 
Thank you. Yes I don't want to risk anymore injuries. I will keep them separated for now and possibly think about getting them both another friend in the future.
If I went down this route would it be best to get them neutered and get them both a sow each? Worried about getting 2 more boys and fighting happening again.
 
Lizzie24 said:
Thank you. Yes I don't want to risk anymore injuries. I will keep them separated for now and possibly think about getting them both another friend in the future.
If I went down this route would it be best to get them neutered and get them both a sow each? Worried about getting 2 more boys and fighting happening again.
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It might be best to check the rescue locator at the top of this page and see if you can find a place near you that offers boar dating.
This would help ensure you don't end up with 4 boars who don't get on!
 
@lauraboara @pig in the city Do you have any ideas to help @Scooby& Shaggy out please? below post. I am thinking it may be hormonal spikes causing the issue. They are 7 months. Floor space is an L shape one bit is 6ft long by 2 n a half foot and the other section is 4ft by 2.5 ft

Scooby& Shaggy said:
I'm having the same problem at the minute with scooby and shaggy. They now have a massive enclosure 2 water bottles, 2 water bowls, 2 food bowls, 2 trays with saw dust layer then lots of hay. 2 different snugs 2 tunnels. Really good diet. And they are still not happy, fighting all the time. No blood drawn but hair torn out.
I initially thought it was because they were next to the new two boars (babies stupidly cute ). Do they have been moved into another room.
But they do eat out of the same bowl. Will come to get veggie treats when passing through the kitchen. But randomly just keep kicking off. I'm going to give it another night then split their enclosure into two. It will still be big enough for them both......hopefully they will be cuddling each other as I type this.
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I had to separate my two boys when they got to 9 months old. Suddenly rumbling at each other and making a bobbing up and down motion if the other got too close. They were used to going out the back door and running around the garden together then suddenly launched at each other, teeth bared and blood drawn. Horrible to see. Now both neutered and going to be husboars to separate tribes of my girls And well away from each other! I too had been put off getting more boars because of this yet find the boys livelier than the girls in general. Good luck with pairing them with new pals, either sows or boars out with their age group.
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Hi, l have read the thread and l really can't offer any advice. They obviously are not happy, separating them and reintroducing when the hormones settle a bit might work, but it will take a few months and a careful reintroduction. With that space @Scooby& Shaggy you could consider getting both boars neutered and finding them girls.
 
pig in the city said:
Hi, l have read the thread and l really can't offer any advice. They obviously are not happy, separating them and reintroducing when the hormones settle a bit might work, but it will take a few months and a careful reintroduction. With that space @Scooby& Shaggy you could consider getting both boars neutered and finding them girls.
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The only problem is, I have two other boys as well, who are a few months younger I was tempted to seperate them and introduce one to each. however this seems mean as the two younger boars seem well bonded.
So i wouldn't want to over run myself with guinea pigs lol,
they had a little chudder earlier at each other but i bribed them with broccili and it seemed to calm them both down. A bonding bath has been suggessted also but i suspect once the smells come back it could revert to type . They used to popcorn like crazy all the time and they don't seem to be doing that much anymore either which is why I am thinking they may be unhappy.
 
If your other boars are happy together don't unsettle them. I read the Guinea pig Magazine and their advice is not to try boars back together if they actually draw blood as mine did x 2! I'm following their advice concerning introducing them to sows. I know it's hard though if you don't have the room for more piggies. X
 
This is what I don't get though. They have a massive enclosure and they like this in the pic whereas a few hours ago they were chuddering. I'm thinking that maybe as I haven't been giving them the same amount of food (I was overfeeding them veggies, I'm weak for their wheek) maybe that's the problem

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My boys lay side by side everywhere until they had the massive fight in the garden. Up until the rumbling at each other that morning they hadn't even had a minor disagreement. I thought being siblings of the same age that they would remain friends but once the hormones hit ,bedlam!
 
Had to split them up, it was seconds away from war. I'm giving it a couple of hours then going attempt to reintroduce.
Do I need to change fleeces around because it will be like new shared territory again or will it not matter as it is just both of their smells and only been a few hours.
 
Scooby& Shaggy said:
Had to split them up, it was seconds away from war. I'm giving it a couple of hours then going attempt to reintroduce.
Do I need to change fleeces around because it will be like new shared territory again or will it not matter as it is just both of their smells and only been a few hours.
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I think it will be tricky to reintroduce them. If you are going to try it you need a completely new neutral area and they would need to stay in that area until they seem settled. Then clean the cage thoroughly before replacing them in it. I must say l am not very hopeful, you might need to wait until they are a few months older, even then if their personalities clash it may not work. But you never know!
 
pig in the city said:
I think it will be tricky to reintroduce them. If you are going to try it you need a completely new neutral area and they would need to stay in that area until they seem settled. Then clean the cage thoroughly before replacing them in it. I must say l am not very hopeful, you might need to wait until they are a few months older, even then if their personalities clash it may not work. But you never know!
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My gf and I bathed them and in the bath after a minute if exploring they went and huddles next to each other when it was time to give them a little wash. We dried them with a towel each until they were suitably dry and then reintroduced them on the kitchen floor while I cleaned the cage fresh fleeces down. While on the kitchen floor they are a little but we're mainly focused on trying to get back into the enclosure.
With everything changed and cleaned we put them back in and they've been really active which is nice to see as they had seemed abit docile when not locking horns so to speak.
They have both been zooming and popcorning about. Sharing good as usual. They seem really happy.
Hopefully this will last.
The babies boars are now in the front room now. And when holding scooby and shaggy we are going to stay in the kitchen. Think the trigger is hearing the other boars.
I'll keep you updated.
 
I do think it is a good idea to have them in a different room to the other boys so glad you have done that. Fingers crossed they settle. Massive piles of hay are good for distraction. Be mentally prepared though that you may have to rethink the pairings and S and SH may end up with one of the baby boars each in the long run. But see how they go
 
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