Bonding a Pair of Females Help

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Hi All,

Me and my partner adopted 2 female guinea pigs around 6 months ago who were mother (Betty) and daughter (Flora).

Sadly Flora passed away last week and although Betty had been coping fine, we thought it was best to get her a friend (Peanut).

When we got Peanut we placed her in her own run for around a day and a half in a separate room so that she could get comfortable with us. Yesterday, we decided to introduce the girls to each other by placing them in separate runs but next to each other so they could still interact. Although they both inquisitive at first, this quickly turned into teeth chattering which we knew is to be expected when asserting dominance. We later tried placing them in the same run but with a barrier in between them and it turned white nasty with both chattering their teeth and Betty chasing Peanut (with the fence still spreading them). At one point Betty also went to headbut Peanut but the barrier was still in the way. After this, I contacted the rescue centre about this and they suggested that they just want to meet each other and are being really inquisitive. As a result, later on when they were settled we took away one of the fences and placed lots of treats in the middle to try and distract them. Unfortunately Betty sprinted straight past the treats and ran to Peanut which very quickly lead to them trying to violent bite each other. Luckily this didn't last long as we managed to split it up very quickly but we have kept them separate since.

After this happened, Betty has basically been laying down at the front of her cage so that Peanut can clearly see her whilst Peanut is constantly sat at the back. Betty also chatters her teeth when Peanut get any attention.

It seems like Betty is clearly the more dominant one but Peanut is bigger than Betty and I am not sure if there is a way for them to actually safely assert dominance without Betty hurting Peanut. We obviously would like to keep both but we are more than open to sadly taking Peanut back as she was comfortable in the rescue centre with her siblings.

If anyone could help then that would be really appreciated!
 
Welcome to the forum.
I’m sorry for your loss and I am sorry to hear the new bonding hasn’t gone well.

How old are they both?

It’s recommended that adult sows are left living side by side for quite a while - days to weeks- to get to know each other before attempting bonding in neutral territory. Doing a bonding too soon can mean they are on edge.
With that said, if the two don’t like each other then no amount of time side by side will change that - a bonding will still fail where there is incompatibility.

Betty laying against the barrier is a territorial behaviour - she is protecting her space from
Peanut. It sounds like peanut is choosing to stay away.

When a bonding fails it leaves you with two options:

1. Return peanut to the rescue and try another piggy with Betty
2. Keep them both but they live as singles and kept in separate side by side cages.

I’ve added a few guides below which will help you further based on what you saw occur between them

Bonding and Interaction: Illustrated Bonding Dynamics and Behaviours
A - Z of Guinea Pig Behaviours
Moody Guinea Pigs: Depression, Bullying, Aggression, Stress, Fear and Antisocial Behaviour
 
Welcome to the forum.
I’m sorry for your loss and I am sorry to hear the new bonding hasn’t gone well.

How old are they both?

It’s recommended that adult sows are left living side by side for quite a while - days to weeks- to get to know each other before attempting bonding in neutral territory. Doing a bonding too soon can mean they are on edge.
With that said, if the two don’t like each other then no amount of time side by side will change that - a bonding will still fail where there is incompatibility.

Betty laying against the barrier is a territorial behaviour - she is protecting her space from
Peanut. It sounds like peanut is choosing to stay away.

When a bonding fails it leaves you with two options:

1. Return peanut to the rescue and try another piggy with Betty
2. Keep them both but they live as singles and kept in separate side by side cages.

I’ve added a few guides below which will help you further based on what you saw occur between them

Bonding and Interaction: Illustrated Bonding Dynamics and Behaviours
A - Z of Guinea Pig Behaviours
Moody Guinea Pigs: Depression, Bullying, Aggression, Stress, Fear and Antisocial Behaviour
Thank you for your reply. Betty is 2 and a half whereas Peanut is between 18-24 months.

It is a shame as Peanut seemed very excited when we first introduced them both but now she seems completely different.

From speaking to the rescue centre, it seems like Betty is causing more of the problems as Peanut just seems to be acting in self-defense and also has had no issues bonding with other pigs in the past when at the rescue centre.

Would you say it is absolutely necessary that we find another pig for Betty if we choose to bring Peanut back? Just because I know it is recommended but Betty seems completely fine since the loss of Flora (almost 2 weeks ago) but then again I understand that she soon may start to feel lonely despite getting lots of attention from us?
 
Yes, it is absolutely necessary she has a new friend (whether thats a friend she bonds with or whether it’s one she has to live side by side with)

It’s good she seems fine - most bereaved piggies will seem fine - but she will feel loneliness sooner or later. We generally say they’re ok for around 1-4 weeks.
No amount of human interaction is enough as there is no mutual communication.
 
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