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I was just looking at some guinea pig videos on You Tube and came across a video of someone feeding a live guinea pig to their pet snake, has anyone else seen this too. i cant believe what i just saw...its really upset me and all i can see is the guinea pig being dangled over and then a horrible squeel. Did i imagine this or did i really see it? i cant go back and look because i found it so disturbing.Why are some people so cruel.
 
I have seen similar videos, well the links for them but i choose not to look.
Wether it's cruel is a matter of opinion, snake lovers would say it's not it's food for their pet. I couldn't have a snake or anything else that needs "live food" or dead food for that matter (thinking crickets etc) but that's me :)
 
I understand that the snake needs to eat and that in the wild it would eat live animals, but this snake is not in the wild its someones pet and i dont understand how the owner can throw a live animal in and then film it devouring the poor thing and then post the video on you tube. i thought snakes were fed already dead animals, watching the poor guinea pig has really upset me.
 
I've never owned a snake so don't know if they will all eat dead flesh or not, as to why he filmed it - i can only think for the shock factor! Some people get a kick out of these things :(
 
well it has shocked me...the image has burnt onto my retina. apparently live animals can be fed to this type of snake but freeze dried food is recommended.... just looked it up. My opinion is if this person was truelly concerned with keeping to the laws of nature(meaning feeding live animals) they would not be keeping such a wild untamable creature anyways. I will be more carefull what i look at from now on,clicked on the video by accident....was only looking at videos of cute baby guineas and stumbled across it.
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pink princess said:
well it has shocked me...the image has burnt onto my retina. apparently live animals can be fed to this type of snake but freeze dried food is recommended.... just looked it up. My opinion is if this person was truelly concerned with keeping to the laws of nature(meaning feeding live animals) they would not be keeping such a wild untamable creature anyways. I will be more carefull what i look at from now on,clicked on the video by accident....was only looking at videos of cute baby guineas and stumbled across it.
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That's how i came across one but it was a rabbit, as soon as i saw the snake i clicked it off :(
 
I did not turn it off quick enough i heard the squeel then it was gone. That squeel is Gonna haunt me now...i get really over sensative to this sort of thing, or any animal hurt or distressed.
 
I love my piggies, yet I see nothing wrong with feeding animals to reptiles. They have got to eat, too! If you think that the food your dog eats often is remainders of battery chicken, that is not much better. Or cats that catch live mice or birds.

I have even seen it being done from 30 cm distance as I visited a friend who was working at the local zoo. Where possible they bought frozen animals, but sometimes you have to feed live ones else the zoo animal wont eat it. Not every animal will eat carrion.

I think the people who complain about snakes being fed live animals are the people who cry when they watch a documentation and a pride of lions makes a kill and think "evil lion!"
 
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The only problem i have with it is the fact they could feed them mice or dead mice or even crickets like someone else stated rather then a guinea, thats more expensive and no need for it really. most snakes would have to be starved for a while to eat live animals that large. I've seen a similar video on youtube and it was an anaconda, you can say there bigger snakes with bigger feeds but not really true. If you look up anacondas they mostly eat fish in the wild, makes sense since they swim in the water a lot. Just doesn't make any sense to me for someone to feed a creature such as a guinea pig when most snakes probably wont ever see one in the wild.

p.s. and you all know a pet guinea pig is a lot different then a wild one, infact they almost don't look similar at all.
 
It's not something I'd particularly like to watch myself, because I'm too squeemish, but I have no problem with it.

Maybe that type of snake could eat dead animals, but you need to keep in mind:
1- Not all snakes (even snakes of the same species) are the same. Some just can't be tempted into eating food that it already dead, just like certain guinea pigs won't eat certain types of veggies, while others will.
2- Even the animals that are killed in advance, rather than fed while still alive, are not always killed humanely. Often, they are kept in awful living conditions, before being killed in very inhumane ways- I myself have seen feeder mice held by the tail and flung into a wall to kill them (that does not even always work the first time). In a lot of cases, it's actually kinder to feed the animal live to the snake, it's over quicker.
 
The general rule (which I thought was actually the law - but turns out it isn't) is you don't feed a vertebrate alive to another animal. So that's an animals that has bones.
The reason being because vertebrates have bones and a nervous system and they feel pain.

Invertebrates can be fed live.
 
Snakes don't eat crickets. So that's out of the window straight away.

Cherish - You might be right in some cases, but only a very small minority. The mice, guinea pigs, chicks and rabbits that are sold frozen are in pristine condition. They need to be - mainly because a person wouldn't buy it, if it's skull was smashed - and an animal probably wouldn't eat it either. They are gased.
But I agree, they probably don't live in as good condition as they could - but then that's where profit comes into it.

I don't agree with it being kinder to feed an animal alive than dead though. A rat can cause an incredible amount of damage to a snake - I have seen photographs - scales missing and deep wounds. And it's difficult for reptiles to heal - not like mammals.

A live mammal or bird, will go through an incredible amount of stress and pain, especially if being eaten by a constrictor and not a venomous snake.

When they are gased they literally just go to sleep.

Lots of people I know, breed their own feeder mice for their pets. And unless you did that, I can't really understand why you wouldn't buy a frozen mouse of guinea pig as they are much cheaper, than buying a live one. A frozen GP depending on it's size would cost around £1.
 
I personally think this subject has been done to the death on the forum. No offence like! :))
 
What worries me though - Is that people film this event and then post it on the internet.

Now, that's wrong.

On various reptile forums I go on, lots of people beat themselves up because they have to feed live mice to their snakes - or else they will end up with a dead snake. They genuinely don't like what they do and are trying their best to get the snake to eat frozen.

However. We are talking about a whole different person here - the kind who gets kicks out of feeding live animals.
 
Andrea- I'm just basing that from things I've seen myself, from a reptile house. Not from things I've heard, or made my own assumptions about.
Like you were saying, it's all down to making a profit; a couple of employees bashing mice is cheaper than gassing them.

I don't know if it's common practice or not, but it definately happens, and the mice don't generally look any worse for ware after being frozen, unless you examine them carefully. A friend of mine had been buying mice from there for years, and had no idea how they were killed until he saw it himself.
 
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Andrea- I'm just basing that from things I've seen myself, from a reptile house. Not from things I've heard, or made my own assumptions about.
Like you were saying, it's all down to making a profit; a couple of employees bashing mice is cheaper than gassing them.

I don't know if it's common practice or not, but it definately happens, and the mice don't generally look any worse for ware after being frozen, unless you examine them carefully. A friend of mine had been buying mice from there for years, and had no idea how they were killed until he saw it himself.
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Oh no, I didn't say it didn't happen, just that it's a small minority. I have never heard of it before.

So these people would happily bash a mice against a wall infront of you and your friend?

What's the name of this place?
 
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Oh no, I didn't say it didn't happen, just that it's a small minority. I have never heard of it before.

So these people would happily bash a mice against a wall infront of you and your friend?

What's the name of this place?
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Yep. I'd become quite friendly with the staff, as I'd been buying crickets for my tree frog there for a long time, I guess they thought that if I fed live crickets to a frog, I'd be okay with it.
The guy on the till was very busy, so he asked if I wanted to go get the crickets out of the back room myself, and there they were.

It was called "Rick's Reptiles" in Rossendale, but that was about four or five years ago, so I don't know if it's still under the same name anymore.

It's definately something to watch out for, though.
 
Nope, i have not seen this YouTube vid and i don't wanna see it too, that's just sick! someone should feed the person to the snake instead!grrrr
Honestly what is this world getting too!
I'm sure alot of people have commented on the video and told him that he is sick!
 
I saw this video and was totally disgusted. I know snakes have to eat, but it is the pure evil way in which the creator of the vid has gone about it, filming it and laughing-just disgusting. My ex boyfrind had a boa constrictor snake and he used to feed her dead mice and rats. he'd buy them from a very reputable reptile store near darlington. Now its meant to be that snakes feed better on something that is alive-when it moves they go in for the kill and obviously its still warm, but my ex used to defrost the mice, and give it a quick blast of a hairdryer to warm it up before dangling it in for the snake. not something i particularly liked observing, but far more humane than that sick video. please keep flagging these videos as INAPPROPRIATE and hopefully that will get them removed. that squeeling little piggy will haunt me-I felt ill watching that.
 
I did not realise the subject had already been discussed alot before on these forums as i just stumbeled upon this video last night and it was a shocker to me.
Dont get me wrong i totally understand that the snake needs to eat too and that live prey may need to be fed, but to me seeing this is totally different to watching a wildlife documentory where an animal catches and devours its prey ....watching this person dangle the pig and then film it in this way just seems wrong to me.
 
It seems wrong to me too. I couldn't watch anything like that.:... I can't watch the wildlife programmes neither with the lions killing animals.:(
 
That video was so disgusting! I saw it a few months ago and cried after watching it! I can understand that the snake needs to eat, but why film it and post it on the net? That's just sick and wrong! I would never even let my piggies go through something like that! I can't believe people are sick enough to post videos of poor animals getting eaten unexpectedly? Poor piggie!
 
I did not read this whole thread as I don;t have time-gotta get to work. anyway, this is one major reason i won;t get a snake as a pet (not to mention I don;t really like them and they are ugly.) yes I know snakes have to eat, but that doesn;t mean I would want to take a part in the food chain of the snake, same thing I will not get an oscar fish as they eat live fish to survive.... anyway, as for feeding live mice or any animal I couldn;t do that at all I would feel so horrible. I would prefer not to do it or see it even though like I said snakes have to eat too. as for feeding a live guinea pig this snake must have been huge as guinea pigs are not small like mice are. as for this person;s intentions of FILMING this horrid event, I am like WTH! if you gotta feed an animal live smaller animals do it without filming it and putting it on the Net for everyone to see! I mean, this person obviously only did it because they get some sort of sick kick out of this whole thing and wanting to tick people off.
 
Andrea said:
The general rule (which I thought was actually the law - but turns out it isn't) is you don't feed a vertebrate alive to another animal. So that's an animals that has bones.
The reason being because vertebrates have bones and a nervous system and they feel pain.

Invertebrates can be fed live.
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The last thing I knew, it was illegal to feed live food to snakes in this country but not in others. Unfortunately some snakes will just not take dead food. This is actually a real bugbear of mine after I read an article in an Australian magazine about a lady who bread guineas as live snake food.
 
BlueRose120 said:
I did not read this whole thread as I don;t have time-gotta get to work. anyway, this is one major reason i won;t get a snake as a pet (not to mention I don;t really like them and they are ugly.) yes I know snakes have to eat, but that doesn;t mean I would want to take a part in the food chain of the snake, same thing I will not get an oscar fish as they eat live fish to survive.... anyway, as for feeding live mice or any animal I couldn;t do that at all I would feel so horrible. I would prefer not to do it or see it even though like I said snakes have to eat too. as for feeding a live guinea pig this snake must have been huge as guinea pigs are not small like mice are. as for this person;s intentions of FILMING this horrid event, I am like WTH! if you gotta feed an animal live smaller animals do it without filming it and putting it on the Net for everyone to see! I mean, this person obviously only did it because they get some sort of sick kick out of this whole thing and wanting to tick people off.
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I hate snakes too - horrible things. I couldn't keep any pet that had to have other pets fed to it.:( I hate it when irresponsible owners let their snakes escape too.
 
snake lovers would say it's not it's food for their pet
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many snake lovers woudln't dream of giving live food to their pet snakes. If snake lovers are feeding live food to their pet snakes then that is illegal! Besides being incredibly cruel to the guineapig/mouse/rat, it is potentially damaging to the reptile if it gets bitten or hurt by the rodent. There is no benefical reason to give like food to snakes, period.It simply gives a ghoulish voyeuristic pleasure to the person who owns the snake.
 
alexr said:
The last thing I knew, it was illegal to feed live food to snakes in this country but not in others. Unfortunately some snakes will just not take dead food. This is actually a real bugbear of mine after I read an article in an Australian magazine about a lady who bread guineas as live snake food.
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I thought it was, mentioned it on a reptile forum and I was corrected. I scoured the internet and couldn't find any law that says it's illegal to feed live vertebrates. Although it's frowned upon.

And I have already explained that some snakes show no interest in dead animals.
What I don't like, Is someone filming it and then posting it on the internet - not the actual feeding of a live vertebrate.
 
There was a picture of a little mouse in the paper yesterday that had actually killed a snake.:{ Someone had tossed the mouse in for the snake to feed off and the mouse killed it.
 
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