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PigglePuggle said:
Poor fishy... my colleague who does fish research and has a home office vet licence says the kindest way to euthanise fish is to put them in a small container of iced water, then keep adding ice until they've gone... hope you dont need to though!
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All the research I've done over the years says clove oil the nicest way. They used to tell you to put fish in the freezer but then proved the fish suffer, especially as mine are tropical. The temp change and lack of oxygen (and crystallising inside etc) wrecks their organs and causes a lot of pain before their final breaths (which can take a long time).
Clove oil is calm, they sort of relax, their gills slow down and then after a little while you add more clove oil and they fade away peacefully. This is after I tried other horrible ways that gave me nightmares!

Did have to put two of my apple snails to sleep recently though, one with a broken trapdoor (no idea how) and the 'big momma' who's pretty old for their species. In a tub in the freezer! Felt terrible! But about the only way only than standing on them, nope, can't do it! Don't feel pain like the fishies though thank god.

Thanks @PigglePuggle x
 
alpacasqueak said:
All the research I've done over the years says clove oil the nicest way. They used to tell you to put fish in the freezer but then proved the fish suffer, especially as mine are tropical. The temp change and lack of oxygen (and crystallising inside etc) wrecks their organs and causes a lot of pain before their final breaths (which can take a long time).
Clove oil is calm, they sort of relax, their gills slow down and then after a little while you add more clove oil and they fade away peacefully. This is after I tried other horrible ways that gave me nightmares!

Did have to put two of my apple snails to sleep recently though, one with a broken trapdoor (no idea how) and the 'big momma' who's pretty old for their species. In a tub in the freezer! Felt terrible! But about the only way only than standing on them, nope, can't do it! Don't feel pain like the fishies though thank god.

Thanks @PigglePuggle x
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Poorly giant snails always go to snail heaven via the freezer, so did my tarantula who had a bad moult and got her face trapped in her old skin... sad times, especially if you need something from the freezer before the burial...
 
PigglePuggle said:
Poorly giant snails always go to snail heaven via the freezer, so did my tarantula who had a bad moult and got her face trapped in her old skin... sad times, especially if you need something from the freezer before the burial...
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Yes never nice, I felt terrible going to get peas out to feed the other snails and fish when one of their own was in there!

I love spiders, everyone in my family crazily scared or I'd love one. Had never thought of their 'ending', hmm there goes me to read up! How sad, poor spidey, can they not recover from it like snakes? Moulting more with good food and cleaning etc? Sorry, never even considered it as never kept them!
 
alpacasqueak said:
Yes never nice, I felt terrible going to get peas out to feed the other snails and fish when one of their own was in there!

I love spiders, everyone in my family crazily scared or I'd love one. Had never thought of their 'ending', hmm there goes me to read up! How sad, poor spidey, can they not recover from it like snakes? Moulting more with good food and cleaning etc? Sorry, never even considered it as never kept them!
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Sadly spiders moult off their teeth and the inside of their gut lining too, its a whole big crunchy exoskeleton that has to go all at once or they get trapped and their new soft skin hardens all mis-shapen and stuck to the old one... I think its the main thing that does for pet tarantulas, they are very resistant to disease but a bad moult is usually fatal... I tried my best to do spider surgery and cut the old skin off, if it was just a leg it might be ok but it was her face and her new fangs were all weak and twisted... after 2 days she clearly wasnt going to recover so it was freezer time... there are some good videos on youtube showing how to try free a tarantula from a bad moult situation if you are interested!
 
Spiders are :yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes: @PigglePuggle I've always been terrified of them. Don't know why but always have been. If there's anything larger than a money spider in a room I am not in that room for very long. I know that they are more scared of me than I am of them. When I was 8 or 9 I did a project about spiders to try and get over my arachnophobia but it didn't work.
 
PigglePuggle said:
Sadly spiders moult off their teeth and the inside of their gut lining too, its a whole big crunchy exoskeleton that has to go all at once or they get trapped and their new soft skin hardens all mis-shapen and stuck to the old one... I think its the main thing that does for pet tarantulas, they are very resistant to disease but a bad moult is usually fatal... I tried my best to do spider surgery and cut the old skin off, if it was just a leg it might be ok but it was her face and her new fangs were all weak and twisted... after 2 days she clearly wasnt going to recover so it was freezer time... there are some good videos on youtube showing how to try free a tarantula from a bad moult situation if you are interested!
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Wow that's really interesting thanks @PigglePuggle, will have a look. Seen lots of spider exoskeletons but never a spider going through it (or half of it)! and having problems. Must be horrible poor bubs.

Most of my family are terrified @Betsy! I'm a bit mad so would try and capture the big ones rather than squash them like my mum and siblings! My 3yr old nephew is getting bad, prob from his mum/my sis, freaked out at a tiny money tree spider yest! So think I'll have to try and make spiders nice and stop the scariness! :D
 
alpacasqueak said:
Wow that's really interesting thanks @PigglePuggle, will have a look. Seen lots of spider exoskeletons but never a spider going through it (or half of it)! and having problems. Must be horrible poor bubs.

Most of my family are terrified @Betsy! I'm a bit mad so would try and capture the big ones rather than squash them like my mum and siblings! My 3yr old nephew is getting bad, prob from his mum/my sis, freaked out at a tiny money tree spider yest! So think I'll have to try and make spiders nice and stop the scariness! :D
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You are brave, that makes me feel sick🤢. Its the fact that spiders look like a hand that freaks me out. But some people hate rats and i love rats, i want to hold a tarantular
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
You are brave, that makes me feel sick🤢. Its the fact that spiders look like a hand that freaks me out. But some people hate rats and i love rats, i want to hold a tarantular
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My sister had 13 trantulas. Some very rare ones too. Very pretty especially the blue moon one. Which she had.
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
You are brave, that makes me feel sick🤢. Its the fact that spiders look like a hand that freaks me out. But some people hate rats and i love rats, i want to hold a tarantular
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A friend of a friend had 5 of them, I went round and held them quite a few times, they were all calm and liked a nice stroke bless them. My friend couldn't be in the same room!

And no, fishy looking no better today. So will have to pluck up some courage to do the bad deed soon, might have to put some cucumber in first and hope he changes his mind but think we're past the point of no return now :( dammit
 
alpacasqueak said:
A friend of a friend had 5 of them, I went round and held them quite a few times, they were all calm and liked a nice stroke bless them. My friend couldn't be in the same room!

And no, fishy looking no better today. So will have to pluck up some courage to do the bad deed soon, might have to put some cucumber in first and hope he changes his mind but think we're past the point of no return now :( dammit
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Ah, poor fishy, he looks a bit pale, is he a clown loach? if he is not eating then something must be wrong. Has he not gone for blood worms? If not then he probably is on his way out, sadly.
I used to keep tropical fish in the 90’s we had an Indian spiny eel who lived for about 10 years, we fed him small earth worms from the compost bin. he outlived all the other residents inside the tank, we got very attached to him, a real character and lovely with all the other fish. Angel fish were horrid, one in particular was a right bully. Really enjoy keeping fish.
 
Bill & Ted said:
Ah, poor fishy, he looks a bit pale, is he a clown loach? if he is not eating then something must be wrong. Has he not gone for blood worms? If not then he probably is on his way out, sadly.
I used to keep tropical fish in the 90’s we had an Indian spiny eel who lived for about 10 years, we fed him small earth worms from the compost bin. he outlived all the other residents inside the tank, we got very attached to him, a real character and lovely with all the other fish. Angel fish were horrid, one in particular was a right bully. Really enjoy keeping fish.
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No he's an Stiphodon Goby, not sure of his exact species as the name they gave isn't a real fish! (Indonesian Rock Goby) Not seen them since and despite all my research and asking on forums still no closer to knowing! They suck on algae and love veg, bloodworms and stuff like daphnia.
No didn't want the bloodworms, not seen him eat the cucumber either so fearing the end poor little beasty, breathing really heavily and looking pale like you say :( not got the courage to do the nasty stuff yet, hoping I'll catch him munching but prob not.

Yeah I've never had Angel fish after hearing how mean they can be, my tank's a nice peaceful community one. I've got catfish and Rainbowfish and my little Goby in there (and a few snails). I'd love a huge tank with an eel or two though, I love them! I'm a massive fish lover :)
 
When i had tropical fish i had the following
A clown loach
Red tale shark
Silver shark with black fins
Leapord danio
Sunset plattys
Zebra danio
Some guppys
Tropical crabs
And a tropical frog.

Not all at once
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
When i had tropical fish i had the following
A clown loach
Red tale shark
Silver shark with black fins
Leapord danio
Sunset plattys
Zebra danio
Some guppys
Tropical crabs
And a tropical frog.

Not all at once
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That sounds like the fish we have kept in the past as well, the little frogs and crabs were interesting. I have also kept some little shrimps (fresh water). The Angel Fish had to be taken back as they did nothing but fight (well one was a total bully, very territorial). My little eel was about 8” long fully grown and had a really pointy face and little eyebrows, so cute. he would burry himself in the gravel with just the tip of his little face stuck out, just in case something tasty came by, but it had to be worm like, so all the fish were safe. We had some fish called something “dollars” can’t remember now, and one of those blue Chinese fighting fish? You get them in bright scarlet or deep blue. But you can only keep on at a time, can’t quite remember the name of them now. Had ghost carp, koi carp and tench in a large pond too many years ago, I always have to have a pond or two, one for wildlife the other for fish, just got wildlife pond now, the newts are eating my tadpoles at the moment, they are a blooming nuisance, but we seem to get more and more each year. We found around 30 last year when we cleaned the pond out, they just love our garden for some reason. Usually take some frog spawn out and take it to the pond on our allotment where there’s no newts, must remember to do this at the weekend before there’s none left.
 
My tooth is absolutely killing me, the worst pain i have ever had, worse than a my ruptured appendix last year!. Roll on tomorrow
 
Bill & Ted said:
Aw, poor you, insist they get it sorted! Tooth ache with abscess is the worst pain possible
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I'm off to my local emergency dentist tomorrow, i have to call at 8am. My usual dentist says i have to wait 4 weeks, I'm going to report them😉. They gave me Amoxicilin but its not working this time.
 
Yes, I would too, that’s really poor health care. Abscesses can make you very poorly and you should not be kept in pain like this indefinitely.
 
Thankyou whoever discovered using clove oil. I love you, well....for an hour then il turn into a monster again.

I'm pain free, if you ever get a toothache i recommend dripping clove oil on it, using a guinea pig syringe, and then take co-codimol( dont use these more than 3 days or drive too much)
 
I may be having a tooth pulled without the anasthetic being able to work soon. Wish me luck lol😂🤣. I'm going to rip the arms off the dental chair
 
Good luck @SkyPipDotBernie! Teeth are a bloody nightmare!

Actually had to use clove oil myself last night, sadly to end poor Goby Wan Kenobe's suffering :(
Heartbroken after having him for nearly a decade but he's just had a little burial under my apple trees in the garden bless him. Tank feeling very empty :bye:
 
alpacasqueak said:
Good luck @SkyPipDotBernie! Teeth are a bloody nightmare!

Actually had to use clove oil myself last night, sadly to end poor Goby Wan Kenobe's suffering :(
Heartbroken after having him for nearly a decade but he's just had a little burial under my apple trees in the garden bless him. Tank feeling very empty :bye:
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Sorry for your loss, must be horrible having to do that yourself
 
Didnt have extraction, he wouldnt do it because i already have one planned with my normal dentist. Instead got my cracked filling out, and replaced it with an antibiotic filling paste, well I'm pain free anyway, and have a different antibiotic to go get now 😁.

Lets get on with life now, finally
 
SkyPipDotBernie said:
Sorry for your loss, must be horrible having to do that yourself
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I'm glad I know how to and they can float off to fish heaven nicely. Still not nice though! He didn't even fight the net so definitely was the best thing to do, lots of tears shed though!
Some people disagree in fish keeping and say you should let nature take it's course, the difference is they'd be eaten by a far bigger fish if in the wild and wouldn't lay for hours like in a calm, placid tank like mine! Was all peaceful and will always be remembered as very much doubt I'll find another like him! :luv:

Better change my usernames on fish forums as I'm always Gobywan! He's been a special one in my house for years now :)

Glad your tooth sort of sorted, I've had 6 root canals in my front teeth after a seizure and hitting a kerb (yep, agony!). The pain is unbelievable when it's teeth!
 
alpacasqueak said:
Good luck @SkyPipDotBernie! Teeth are a bloody nightmare!

Actually had to use clove oil myself last night, sadly to end poor Goby Wan Kenobe's suffering :(
Heartbroken after having him for nearly a decade but he's just had a little burial under my apple trees in the garden bless him. Tank feeling very empty :bye:
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Aw, so sorry you lost him, sending hugs x
 
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