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xToNix

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Hi. I was just wondering if anyone has used a reputable website to buy Xeno 450 spot on? I can’t get to my vets at the moment so looking to order online. TIA.
 
Has the vet diagnosed them with something? Are you able to have someone help you get them to the vet?
 
Hi,
I’ve bought from various sites depending on price at the time, try Viovet or Animedirect or VetUK.
It really depends on price but do search around, the prices can range vastly! £40 for 6 tubes to £20 same quantity. Bonkers 🤔
 
Mother Hubbard said:
Hi,
I’ve bought from various sites depending on price at the time, try Viovet or Animedirect or VetUK.
It really depends on price but do search around, the prices can range vastly! £40 for 6 tubes to £20 same quantity. Bonkers 🤔
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Thank you for this. I’m on animeddirect and they have a Xeno 50 mini which they say is for pigs under 1200g which all of mine are if only just. The vet always gives me the 450 which is for pigs over 1200g so now I’m thinking I should order the Xeno 50. Which one do you use?
 
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Mother Hubbard said:
Hi,
I’ve bought from various sites depending on price at the time, try Viovet or Animedirect or VetUK.
It really depends on price but do search around, the prices can range vastly! £40 for 6 tubes to £20 same quantity. Bonkers 🤔
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Ignore my last post, I’ve just seen I’d have to use 5 pipettes on each pig of the 50 mini! I’ll stick to the 450 and just apply a little less to the slightly slimmer piggies. They’re all around the 1kg mark so not much off. Thanks again for your help. VetUk are working out slightly cheaper atm at £20.14. £43 on Viovet!
 
Piggies&buns said:
It’s not advisable to use anything at maintenance. You run the risk of building up resistance so if there is a problem, you then won’t have an effective treatment
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Ah right :/ I’ve been doing so at the advice of the vet. Not sure what to do now. One of my piggies in particular seems to get itchier when the next dose is due and is much better after I’ve applied the spot on.
 
xToNix said:
Ah right :/ I’ve been doing so at the advice of the vet. Not sure what to do now. One of my piggies in particular seems to get itchier when the next dose is due and is much better after I’ve applied the spot on.
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You say you do it once a month - a proper treatment to cure a mite problem is done in a three dose course over a few weeks. If you are only doing it once per month, then you don’t catch the whole life cycle of the mites and therefore they are never fully killed off, eggs remain and you just get another infestation. You do a full course, deal with the problem and that should be it - all at the advice of a vet of course
 
Piggies&buns said:
You say you do it once a month - a proper treatment to cure a mite problem is done in a three dose course over a few weeks. If you are only doing it once per month, then you don’t catch the whole life cycle of the mites and therefore they are never fully killed off, eggs remain and you just get another infestation. You do a full course, deal with the problem and that should be it - all at the advice of a vet of course
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That’s what I did to begin with and then continued with the maintenance doses. I’ll give the vets a call and perhaps do a proper treatment course and then leave them be. I’ll see what the vet suggests. Thank you for the info.
 
Did the vet say they have mites/lice etc? If not then there’s no need to use it.
 
Yes applying ivermectin regularly when there is no medical need can lead to any mites developing resistance- that can result in a very bad outbreak that wouldnt respond to any treatment...
 
PigglePuggle said:
Yes applying ivermectin regularly when there is no medical need can lead to any mites developing resistance- that can result in a very bad outbreak that wouldnt respond to any treatment...
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Thank you, I’ll certainly refrain from applying maintenance doses from now on. I just thought I was doing what was best as that’s what I was advised to do by the vet :/ we live and learn.
 
xToNix said:
Thank you, I’ll certainly refrain from applying maintenance doses from now on. I just thought I was doing what was best as that’s what I was advised to do by the vet :/ we live and learn.
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Yes unfortunately drug resistance isnt always taught to vets! In farm animals ivermectin resistance in gut worms is a massive problem due to years of vets and farmers routinely under-dosing when there was no clinical need, I used to work at a vet college in the USA researching parasite drug resistance so I've seen first hand how some animals over there have super-resistant parasites that no licensed veterinary drugs can kill anymore :(
 
Siikibam said:
Did the vet say they have mites/lice etc? If not then there’s no need to use it.
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One of my pigs was thought to have mites so was given the treatment course and then I was advised to apply maintenance doses to him and apply it to my other pigs to prevent them from catching them. I’ve been getting the treatment from the vets all this time and not once have they ever said anything along the lines of the advice I’ve been given on the forum today so you can understand I thought I’d been doing the right thing all this time.
 
xToNix said:
One of my pigs was thought to have mites so was given the treatment course and then I was advised to apply maintenance doses to him and apply it to my other pigs to prevent them from catching them. I’ve been getting the treatment from the vets all this time and not once have they ever said anything along the lines of the advice I’ve been given on the forum today so you can understand I thought I’d been doing the right thing all this time.
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Of course @xToNix you have just trusted your vet which is usually the best thing to do, and probably no harm done, its just like when doctors used to prescribe antibiotics for everything before they caught up with the research and the problem of antibiotic resistance was recognised, probably in small animal practice the vets don't see many drug resistant parasites so aren't so aware of it. So don't worry, its just not something I would recommend doing, usually I think it is better to have a confirmed clinical case before treating, then you know the treatment will still be effective if and when you really need it x
 
xToNix said:
One of my pigs was thought to have mites so was given the treatment course and then I was advised to apply maintenance doses to him and apply it to my other pigs to prevent them from catching them. I’ve been getting the treatment from the vets all this time and not once have they ever said anything along the lines of the advice I’ve been given on the forum today so you can understand I thought I’d been doing the right thing all this time.
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You were doing what you were advised, which is always what we think you should do. I’m sorry if I came across as accusatory that wasn’t my intention.
If I remember correctly the one with mites should get three treatments about 2 weeks apart?. But don’t quote me! 😁 There is a link on here somewhere.
 
Also I personally would treat all the piggies who live together if one was diagnosed, so I do have a stash of Xeno450 I bought online just in case, as we have so many piggies- but I would only use it if we had a confirmed diagnosis and prescription for 1 piggy, I would then treat their friends too, and also deep clean the cage, hot wash the fleecy things, throw away any cardboard or woven grass furniture etc.
 
PigglePuggle said:
Also I personally would treat all the piggies who live together if one was diagnosed, so I do have a stash of Xeno450 I bought online just in case, as we have so many piggies- but I would only use it if we had a confirmed diagnosis and prescription for 1 piggy, I would then treat their friends too, and also deep clean the cage, hot wash the fleecy things, throw away any cardboard or woven grass furniture etc.
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I did all of that too 👍🏻
 
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