Whats The Best Accommodation?

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Hi

I'm looking at getting a couple of rescue guinea pigs and have just started doing my research but everything seems contradictory (especially between British and American sites). My initial plan was to buy a multi-tier hutch/run to keep them in during the day when we're working and an indoor cage for the evenings so we can socialise with them (and for during cold weather). But I've read some stuff which says they shouldn't be kept outdoors at all (mainly on US sites) and others saying they shouldn't have ramps. I'm also unsure if they should be allowed on grass all day?

Advice much appreciated.

The outdoor hutch I initially considered was something like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271854289979?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

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Ziva
 
Hi and welcome. Please can you add your location to your profile so we can best offer our views.

I assume you are in the UK. Guinea pigs can live outside but it is easier to bring them inside for the colder half of the year than to keep them warm outside (I speak as someone who has both indoor and outdoor piggies).

They can go in grass when it is dry (if you kneel on it you don't get damp patches on your knees) but you will need to regulate how much grass time they have in order to avoid bloat - especially as they get used to it. The rescue you adopt from should have lots of advice for you on this. You won't be able to let them out on the grass when it is cold outside.

Views are mixed on ramps and not all piggies will use them but we have them for our piggies with either side safety bars or a ramp tunnel.

The key thing is floor space on a single level - this needs to be big enough irrespective of any other levels there may be. Whether you choose boars or sows will dictate the best size really.

Have you got a rescue in mind? There is a great rescue locator on the forum.
 
Yep I'm in the UK (in Oxfordshire). I haven't given too much thought as to where I'll rescue them from yet, I want to make sure I know my stuff first. Although you're right that the rescue centre should be able to help me with that.

So permanent access to a run on grass is not advised?

The most important thing I want is for them to have lots of space wherever they are. I hate the idea of animals being in small cages and those tiny hutches you can buy just seem ridiculous.
 
My guinea pigs live inside a shed in hutches, they do not have access to grass all the time. I considered buying that hutch you posted but putting down a piece of board with lino on so that they could run around in the shed safely. I have never kept my piggies inside, they have always lived in a shed so that it is warmer and they are kept away from the worst of the weather. I then have separate runs for grass time, sometimes they stay all day but for the first few times of the year just a couple of hours. To get mine used to grass I cut them some at least once a week all year. I have recently brought this hutch: http://www.petsathome.com/shop/en/p...tdoor-guinea-pig/bluebell-hideaway-(in-store)
But if you look on places like preloved of gumtree you can get some good deals. I am just buying the same hutch for £40 second hand.
If you decide to keep them outside just keep an eye on their temperature, you can insulate the hutch or buy snuggle safe pads which you heat in the microwave. Do not feel that you need to bring them inside, though if you have the space I am sure it is lovely to have them inside for the winter months.
Good luck with whatever you decide.
 
Thanks guys. I think I might just get a large single story hutch with a run that I can chose when they access. It turns out this is an expensive way of doing things though so I will start saving and keep an eye out for the bargains!
 
:wel: to the forum. I'm afraid guinea pigs are not cheap pets !

It's a good job you're doing your research 1st - I'm on my 3rd set up since getting my gp's!
 
The circumstances in America are different to that of the UK. In America's vast landmass there's a huge variation in climate and many places are considered generally too hot/too cold/too windy etc for guinea pigs to be homed outside and many places have problems with predation. The UK have foxes to be concerned about, the occasional troublesome determined moggy and the occasional dog that has got out. We have adders but usually not close to our homes, unless you live in an adder-rich area with stone walls etc, and even then they are unlikely to target a guinea pig due to the size of the pig in relation to the adder. Basically our snakes are not a problem.
The other thing we have to guard against are rats, who may wish to take the pig's food and cause injury to the pig or damage to the housing as a consequence of getting to the food.

In the USA there's so much more in terms of potential predators and therefore in many places outdoor living is not recommended and outdoor run time should ideally be well supervised in these areas.

Even in the UK guinea pigs suffer in hot and cold weather, and must be protected from both extremes, plus of course wind and rain BUT it's generally quite workable when these things are taken care of.

There are advantages to being outside - one is space. For the average UK home there's often a greater potential for the guinea pigs to have a larger living space outside than inside (but not always).

However, there are advantages in being housed indoors, especially in the main room of the house - the place where most of the human stuff happens. You really do get to know your pigs well, you see them not just at socialisation time but when they do all the other things that piggies do. I favour indoors for various reasons but I appreciate it's not best for everyone, and there are plenty of people who keep happy, enriched and well socialised piggies mainly outdoors, and plenty of folk on here who can advise you on this (as they keep outdoor pigs) :).

Ramps you find that in commercially built hutches with more than one story the ramps are very steep - 45 degrees is quite common, and this is off-putting for many pigs. Guinea pigs often prefer a gentle slope, so I'd say don't be put off by having a second floor, but perhaps if there is room to do so make yourself a longer (and therefore gentle) ramp. Even with a two story hutch you need to consider the floor space. It needs to be large enough for all pigs to run around without getting under each other's feet, for them all to share the same floor and still be able to get away from the others when they want to. It needs to be large enough to easily accommodate several enrichment items without causing clutter (tunnels, hidies, soft beds etc).

Cost Sadly large housing doesn't come cheap. However you may find a good bargain second hand, but be careful it's not housed rabbits.
Guinea pigs are not always cheap to maintain. They should be, when all goes well, with the cost of bedding, hay, pellets and veggies being the main things they require. Enrichment toys can be very cheap or even free (there's plenty of threads on this). However it is likely that your pigs will require a visit to the vet at some point during their lives, and although you get pigs that never have to set foot in a vet's surgery there's sadly plenty who do and I will be honest right now - the vet bills can run into hundreds of £'s especially for ongoing issues which pigs can develop.
It's not always easy, but many of us find that keeping a saving pot of money aside for this eventuality helps relive the pressure, and if it's never needed during their life-time then you have the bonus of having saved some money! :)
 
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Thanks for all the replies. It's so helpful to a rookie like me!

Although I've not had guinea pigs before, I do have a very gorgeous (and now sick and elderly) dog so I'm well aware of vets costs etc. Sadly, my puppy (she's 11!) has been diagnosed with an untreatable tumour. I could never replace her and won't get another dog but the thought of being without pets makes me feel incredibly sad. My research so far has convinced me that guinea pigs are the perfect pet for me so now it's just learning to do it properly!

I've seen an incredible, huge hutch on eBay which I'd love but it's bloody expensive. It's 6ft x 3ft so loads of running around room but I'd still need to get an indoor set up as well so might not be entirely practical. Plus I'm not sure I'd ever be able to move it once it was in!
 
That's very sad about your dog. They're with you for so long and become a huge part of your life. x

Indoor set ups can be surprisingly cheap. I have known of people create a pen out cheap material for indoors. I have one made of correx and duck-tape and I put down a plastic table-cloth with a sheet of fleece over the top. It isn't a permanent home for any piggy but it is surprisingly secure when in use and be permanent if necessary. I pig-sit once a year and the pair have their cage sat in this play-pen I made and they just run around and in and out the cage all week, day and night. Correx is not particularly expensive to buy.
Can they chew correx? Yes they can and often they do, but only if they can reach the top of it ;)
I have known of other people who use play-pens (home made or bought) as permanent homes for their piggies, and the great thing it they can be made cheaply and extended at will. I have a pen-friend (not on a forum) who had her pigs in an indoor hutch, but they loved their play pen so much that she got rid of the hutch and kept them in the play pen!
You just need secure sides made of something pig-safe, a waterproof floor and inside a place for their hay and some tunnels and hidies (or what ever you wish to furnish their cage with)

What I'm saying is for when you want your pigs to be indoors a cage is not a must. An open - topped pen is great. This is the principal behind C&C grids, as a large pen, but C&C are not the only way of making a suitable home-made and cheap indoor accommodation. It may be possible for you to splash out on the lovely garden hutch, and do something really cheap and cheerful for the indoors one ;)
 
You make a very good point Critter. I have an old shelving unit in the shed which would probably be pretty easy and very cheap to convert into a pen if it were laid flat. I sense a project coming on!

The 6ft x 3ft hutch is about £260, compared to £120 for a 6ft x 2ft hutch (different brands). I know the smaller one is ample space for 2 and it's sooo much cheaper but I know I'll be happier giving them as much space as possible. Is it worth the extra cash? (Also, why are wide hutches so rare?) I don't think I'm skilled enough to make a secure hutch myself so buying is required.

Also, apologies for bleating on in this post. It's just nice to talk to people that have experience (and aren't trying to sell me anything!)
 
Welcome!
I have that hutch in brown and since March its been okay for my two girls, they seem to have plenty of room. One piggie did take a while to attempt the ramp but now theyre fine with it, but i am planning on making it more piggy friendly. The hutch is in my conservatory at the mo with lino underneath it but will have to go outside when the weather gets too warm for them.
Also i got my hutch off ebay brand new for £65 so its worth shopping around.
Good luck
 
My rescue boys are in the pets at home dandelion den hutch. It has the two scratch and Newton covers (thermal and waterproof). That hutch is 5x2ft. I also have a 5ft Apex run
 
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