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Vet does not know what's wrong with my guinea pig

The Fluffy Tribe

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Hello all. I hope you have had a great Christmas because I have had a terrible one. Also sorry this is a bit long but I wanted to get all the details in.

Yesterday morning I woke up and knew there was something off with Mr Chicken. He was trying to hide in the corner of his hutch and his eyes were squinty. I brought him in and looked online for possible causes. I found out he had an impact so I removed it and abut 10 minutes later he started eating and drinking again as normal. I was relieved. But then a few hours later he was laying on his stomach refusing to move and had no interest in moving and was wheezing heavily and making these very sudden sharp jumping movements (like hiccups). Obviously panicking I managed to find an emergency vet (which I was greatful for on Christmas day) and she did a through examination but was completely stumped.
By the time we got to the vet he had stopped wheezing and making the sharp movements but was reluctant to stand although she got him to.

After examining him she was stumped as to the problem because his poops were normal but guessed it was abdominal pain as he would chatter his teeth when she touched his stomach (which is very rare for him even with the other guinea pigs) so she gave him some IV fluids, pain relief, and a takeaway critical care pouch. I informed her he was already on metacam for his back legs (they were fine before but occasionally he would drag them) so I was allowed to get a prescription which he has had for the past 3 months.

I stayed up with him last night, he was in a terrible mood as he did not like being syringe fed and was uniterested in eating or drinking or taking his metacam (which usually I have to wrestle the syringe away from him, he loves that stuff!)

But about 6 hours later I tried giving him food and water and...success! He was very eager to eat and drink again. This morning I could feed him the critical care solution from a spoon, didnt have to force feed him and hes taking is metacam normally. Am I overreacting in thinking there is still something seriously wrong or do I just need to give him time or should I rush him back to the vet?

He is 5 years old, I know this is old for a guinea pig but my oldest lived to 8yrs. He seems more lively and alert this morning, he is not longer chatting his teeth or making signs he is in discomfort as I have been checking his belly to see if it is tight which is it not. Hes always had a big belly, but it doesnt seem bloated and I'm sure when the vet was checking last night she would have told me. His eyes are now occasionally getting watery so I have been giving him more water.

My last solution was to get some gripe water for slight bloat. I'm not sure whether to take him down to the vet again today-because I know guinea pigs health turns so fast but also not sure if I have given him enough time to recover as it was a huge turnaround that he is eating, drinking and taking his meds again.

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I'm sorry your piggy is poorly! Especially at Christmas!
Personally I would give it a bit of time, make sure he eating plenty of hay and monitor him closely. Any worrying signs and back to the vets x
 
Hello all. I hope you have had a great Christmas because I have had a terrible one. Also sorry this is a bit long but I wanted to get all the details in.

Yesterday morning I woke up and knew there was something off with Mr Chicken. He was trying to hide in the corner of his hutch and his eyes were squinty. I brought him in and looked online for possible causes. I found out he had an impact so I removed it and abut 10 minutes later he started eating and drinking again as normal. I was relieved. But then a few hours later he was laying on his stomach refusing to move and had no interest in moving and was wheezing heavily and making these very sudden sharp jumping movements (like hiccups). Obviously panicking I managed to find an emergency vet (which I was greatful for on Christmas day) and she did a through examination but was completely stumped.
By the time we got to the vet he had stopped wheezing and making the sharp movements but was reluctant to stand although she got him to.

After examining him she was stumped as to the problem because his poops were normal but guessed it was abdominal pain as he would chatter his teeth when she touched his stomach (which is very rare for him even with the other guinea pigs) so she gave him some IV fluids, pain relief, and a takeaway critical care pouch. I informed her he was already on metacam for his back legs (they were fine before but occasionally he would drag them) so I was allowed to get a prescription which he has had for the past 3 months.

I stayed up with him last night, he was in a terrible mood as he did not like being syringe fed and was uniterested in eating or drinking or taking his metacam (which usually I have to wrestle the syringe away from him, he loves that stuff!)

But about 6 hours later I tried giving him food and water and...success! He was very eager to eat and drink again. This morning I could feed him the critical care solution from a spoon, didnt have to force feed him and hes taking is metacam normally. Am I overreacting in thinking there is still something seriously wrong or do I just need to give him time or should I rush him back to the vet?

He is 5 years old, I know this is old for a guinea pig but my oldest lived to 8yrs. He seems more lively and alert this morning, he is not longer chatting his teeth or making signs he is in discomfort as I have been checking his belly to see if it is tight which is it not. Hes always had a big belly, but it doesnt seem bloated and I'm sure when the vet was checking last night she would have told me. His eyes are now occasionally getting watery so I have been giving him more water.

My last solution was to get some gripe water for slight bloat. I'm not sure whether to take him down to the vet again today-because I know guinea pigs health turns so fast but also not sure if I have given him enough time to recover as it was a huge turnaround that he is eating, drinking and taking his meds again.

Please find attached videos, any thoughts or advice is greatly appreciated!

BIG HUGS

I am very sorry. It is near impossible to say - and entirely the worst time of the year - what exactly is going on. Whether you are dealing with a primary problem in the digestive tract or whether it could be secondary (i.e. something pressing on or radiating pain into the digestive tract. Working out what exactly is wrong can be very tricky for a vet as well if the symptoms are not all that clear cut.

Please hang on in there with feeding support.

I am keeping my fingers firmly crossed. Please be aware that gripe water may help a little with mild cases but it is otherwise of no use.
 
I just wanted to say thank you to everyone and give an update, not sure of this will help anyone. I will do so in 2 posts.

He was doing poorly for 3 weeks, the fact he was refusing to use his back legs or even get up the vet said we may have to consider putting him down. He would only take water via syringe and I was feeding him the emergency suppliment. It was long going, but to our surprise it did turn around, not only did he start sitting up he began drinking water on his own and eating on his own! Yay!

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He was acting like normal again, even so we kept him inside but brought in the other piggies to socialise with him.
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After 2 weeks of being fine he started getting a little sniffly, he had a runny nose but apart from that he was acting normal and fine. We checked his chest, there was no cackling so we out it down to indoor heating but after a few days I thought I could hear cackling so I decided to take him to the vet. I had been looking up solutions and was worried about the side effects of getting him a solution so wanted to make sure it was really an illness before taking him.

I should have asked for a different vet the desk was filthy (I took him on a saturday so it was emergencies only and they seem rushed but still) the vet only spent about 3 minutes with him and said it was a cold so gave us baytril.

I started giving it to him right away and looked it up. I was worried about the side effects but decided to go with it. I also learned about how steam can clear a guinea pigs nose so I started putting a bowl of steamed water in his cage with blankets over. He seems to like this as he would put his face and who body around the bowl. I only did this twice a day.

I noticed that his behaviour changed quickly, he wasnt hopping around as usual. I had been helping him pass his stools as his poops had been going from normal to inpacted since Christmas. I had been checking him every 4 hours as instructed and started giving him syringe water and steaming him. It was only after the baytril I noticed he had an issue with bloating so I was giving him gripe water too. I'm worried this may have been too much for him or I did too much as 2 days after on monday, he passed away.

There were so many factors and I am kicking myself because I felt I either did something wrong or didnt do something.
1) How did he get this cold/flu? Did he catch it off my mother (my sister rules this out saying its difficult to catch a cold off a human especially if they are not in regular contact) was it just indoor heating? Was the vet mistaken?
2) Was it the baytril? He suddenly had issue with bloating after taking it and I was massaging him a lot to get his stomach down. Did I stress his body out too much?
3) Was it the steaming? He seemed to like it and it did clear his nose for a while but was it too much given his age?
4) Was it his age? I was mistaken he was in fact over 6 years old not 5 (I got him in January 2019)

My family have told me to stop beating myself up over this as I did all that I can and they believe this was just him time. They also told me if I had not gone to the vet and he passed I would be angry at myself over that too. I felt like I was in a lose lose situation here but I dunno. They said he had a great life and lived to a good age, still I miss him though. I thought I would post this just because I know there have been concerns about baytril and vet diagnoises before and I'm not blaming that, I dont know. I personally think that maybe in his age his body was having trouble functioning and maybe that was it but I cannot be sure. If you have read all this thank you for that, it means a lot to me.

I didnt know this would be the last healthy pictures I got of him before he passed

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So glad to hear a positive update.
He’s a very cute boy and lucky to have such a dedicated and caring owner❤️
Thank you, but hes since passed as I have detailed in my second post, but I wanted to post because I'm still upset with myself for not being sure if I took the right line of action. Again thank you ❤️
 
I’m so sorry Mr Chicken has had the call to the rainbow bridge. It sounds to me like you did absolutely everything right. You noticed he was poorly, took him straight to the vets and took their advice. That’s all any of us can do. I agree with your family. He had a wonderfully long and happy life with you. It shows how much he was cared for and loved to get to 6. I think you would definitely feel worse if you had done nothing and he had passed. It was his time.

Take care ❤️
 
I’m so sorry for your loss

Piggies do not get viral colds, they can’t catch them from humans.
They get bacterial respiratory infections. They are opportunistic bugs. Sadly and sometimes even with the right and prompt treatment, not everything can be cured.
Please don’t blame yourself.
 
I’m so sorry Mr Chicken has had the call to the rainbow bridge. It sounds to me like you did absolutely everything right. You noticed he was poorly, took him straight to the vets and took their advice. That’s all any of us can do. I agree with your family. He had a wonderfully long and happy life with you. It shows how much he was cared for and loved to get to 6. I think you would definitely feel worse if you had done nothing and he had passed. It was his time.

Take care ❤️

I’m so sorry for your loss

Piggies do not get viral colds, they can’t catch them from humans.
They get bacterial respiratory infections. They are opportunistic bugs. Sadly and sometimes even with the right and prompt treatment, not everything can be cured.
Please don’t blame yourself.
Thank you all so much for your words, you're amazing and I think I will still be sore about this but hopefully I will eventually stop blaming myself. I'm very thankful to have had him, time seems so short he was a big part of my life so it will take a while to move on. Thank you again ❤️
 
Thank you, but hes since passed as I have detailed in my second post, but I wanted to post because I'm still upset with myself for not being sure if I took the right line of action. Again thank you ❤️
Sorry, I think I posted before your sad news updated on my iPad.
You gave him such a love filled life.
Be gentle with yourself as you grieve
 
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