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Ninarodders

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So not sure best place to post. Just wanted to have a little vent about non piggy people.

I've just been laughed at for taking my guinea pig to the vet by a colleague! The rage and sadness I feel inside!

I explained that they are just as a pet as a dog and in fact lifespan isn't so far off compared to big breeds of dog.

In the end she said she felt bad for laughing and thought they'd only live for a year or 2. but think it was just her saying it. Also so what if their lifespan was 2years. But I hope deep down that interaction haunts her sleep lol

Vent over thank you.

If anyone has anything to vent about I'll be happy to read it.
 
What a silly woman
Well done for explaining this to her - as human beings we have empathy and care for other creatures - that’s what makes us human
Sometimes some people appear to have lost this
I love this forum …..for the love of guinea pigs and everything else
We’re devoted aren’t we?
Stay strong and feel sorry for this woman who hasn’t discovered the love of guinea pigs ….boy is she missing out 😂
 
So not sure best place to post. Just wanted to have a little vent about non piggy people.

I've just been laughed at for taking my guinea pig to the vet by a colleague! The rage and sadness I feel inside!

I explained that they are just as a pet as a dog and in fact lifespan isn't so far off compared to big breeds of dog.

In the end she said she felt bad for laughing and thought they'd only live for a year or 2. but think it was just her saying it. Also so what if their lifespan was 2years. But I hope deep down that interaction haunts her sleep lol

Vent over thank you.

If anyone has anything to vent about I'll be happy to read it.

HUGS
Irrespective of a species life span, laughing about anything that another person clearly holds dear shows not just sheer thoughtlessness and a lack of understanding but also very much a lack of basic respect and emotional maturity.

Unfortunately, when non-pet people catch you out at a very vulnerable moment, it really can get under your skin. Sadly, the old concept that a supposedly short-lived pet is not worth loving, caring or mourning for is still far too wide-spread, and lack of due care still kills disproportionally far too many young rabbits and guinea pigs compared to the young of other pet species who are also at a higher risk because of neglect/lack of proper care.

Half a century ago, the old saying that a dog's life span was 7 years still held sway, yet our first family guinea pig lived to nearly 10 years and he was by far not the only one I knew of within a mile's radius - or the oldest.

A goodly number of my rescue adoptees, not rarely from dodgy backgrounds, have lived long and fulfilled piggy lives. It clearly shows - as we all know - that the problem is not the pet but their owner's mindset and care.

Sadly, changing general attitudes is a fight you have fight single mind by single mind. You have to keep chipping away. It's a marathon. The problem is that lecturing won't get you anywhere; you have to make people stop and think. That is the reason why quite a few of my guides and articles look at guinea pigs from a different perspective than a human-centric owner's one. They are there to make owners think and rethink.

I did get a lot of stick when I started talking about 'guinea pig whispering' and communicating with guinea pigs in their own body language and social concepts. As humans we really have a bad tendency to get stuck up on our 'we are the best and therefore everything has to revolve around us and our own desires and world view'; whether that is towards other humans, animals or nature. The difficulty lies in that so much is unconsciously learned from a young age by copying and internalising; we are not aware of it and often need a jolt. The big hurdle is always the internalised stuff that we have absorbed without knowing. It is also much tougher to change what you do without thinking and we are all guilty of that.

Trying to talk about it in a constructive and insightful way is the best way foward unless people are deliberately hurtful.

Good on you for fighting back and for making that person think about their unreflected attitude, @Ninarodders .

I usually console myself with the fact that these people don't have the first idea of the richness that they are missing out on in their lives. You can never win all minds but every mind won is a little victory.
 
Well done for putting that rude and thoughtless person right.

People who have never known guinea pigs don't realise how intelligent they are, how each one has it's own endearing character. Over the years I have introduced many people to guinea pigs and their little ways. Once educated I find most people are fascinated by them. Often I am asked how are the guinea pigs when greeting someone, not how are you!

Besides all that we are legally obliged to get all pets vet help when needed.
 
I was telling my ex husband about Stripe's illnesses. He's from Jordan and they just don't care for animals like we do. He said he would have just let nature take its course, which I assume meant let Stripe die.

I explained that morally and ethically I could not let him be in pain and no animal under my care would suffer.

I was also talking to a coworker about Stripe and said I hope he didn't need a surgery and he said yeah a surgery for a guinea pig seems over the top.
 
So not sure best place to post. Just wanted to have a little vent about non piggy people.

I've just been laughed at for taking my guinea pig to the vet by a colleague! The rage and sadness I feel inside!

I explained that they are just as a pet as a dog and in fact lifespan isn't so far off compared to big breeds of dog.

In the end she said she felt bad for laughing and thought they'd only live for a year or 2. but think it was just her saying it. Also so what if their lifespan was 2years. But I hope deep down that interaction haunts her sleep lol

Vent over thank you.

If anyone has anything to vent about I'll be happy to read it.
Piggies are just nice. And they are small, but very smart ❤️ and loving! I was shedding a tear over a very sad video of how a beautiful dog had been neglected for years on a chain in a shed and Truffle came across the cage and lay close beside me. I think most piggy owners have stories like that 🐾
 
I've had a similar reactions to taking gerbils and hamsters to the vet, too. Not from people I know in real life, most of my friends know better 😅 but online.

That being said, I got laughed at by the woman serving me in The Range a couple of years ago for buying a little "happy birthday" bandana for my cats 10th birthday, and some toys. Some people just don't get it.. their loss!
 
So not sure best place to post. Just wanted to have a little vent about non piggy people.

I've just been laughed at for taking my guinea pig to the vet by a colleague! The rage and sadness I feel inside!

I explained that they are just as a pet as a dog and in fact lifespan isn't so far off compared to big breeds of dog.

In the end she said she felt bad for laughing and thought they'd only live for a year or 2. but think it was just her saying it. Also so what if their lifespan was 2years. But I hope deep down that interaction haunts her sleep lol

Vent over thank you.

If anyone has anything to vent about I'll be happy to read it.
I'm sorry to hear that,I've had horrible comments made in the past about my Ill guinea pigs similar to what you went through.I had a very ill piggy once and the guy I was talking to said why not just get another one,why waste your money.I used to just bite my tongue back then but these days if someone said something so insensitive I think I'd bite back.
 
I've challenged people before about whether they would pay the same amount on their dog. When they say they would (because they always do), I say a dog is a pet and a guinea pig is also a pet. They are both living, breathing, feeling animals so why does a dog have more value than a guinea pig? They can't answer that one.
 
I was telling my ex husband about Stripe's illnesses. He's from Jordan and they just don't care for animals like we do. He said he would have just let nature take its course, which I assume meant let Stripe die.

I explained that morally and ethically I could not let him be in pain and no animal under my care would suffer.

I was also talking to a coworker about Stripe and said I hope he didn't need a surgery and he said yeah a surgery for a guinea pig seems over the top.
I had it from a school teach also about surgery. He's had 2 and she was so shocked but in front of all parents I kinda just shrugged it off and went on about my day. I wish I had said something educational lol
 
After telling my dad how much I had spent on one of my piggies vet bills he asked “how much do they cost to buy”. When I told him he said I should have put that one to sleep and got another one. 😭

Some people just won’t ever get it.
I've had this also. I don't get how cold some people can be
 
Guinea pigs are so delightful and charming. Cats and dogs are nice but they are always practicing to kill something (playing). Guinea pigs are super social, herd animals. They learn to fit in to large, complex social groups and are polite. This morning I was slow about getting up and the usual little suggestive noises were coming from Truffle, the wheeks person for the two piggy herd. I was drifting back off when I heard something striking his metal food bowl, tink tink tink tink. Either pellets or a piece of hay. I got up and Truffle was eating a long piece of hay beside his bowl, looking very innocent. The piggy alarm was sounding, time to get up 😄
 
It's so sad that small pets aren't seen as important by a lot of people. You do a fundraiser for a dog or cat charity and people donate. But you do one for a small animal charity and it's a struggle.

I've also been ridiculed in the past for asking to start later at work to take my guinea pig to the vet. (Luckily I got a really early appointment that day so didn't need to start later.)The manager said " I'm not putting down you're going to be late in for a guinea pig!" I said "what if it was a dog or a cat" she said "that's different" 🙈😬
How is it different?
 
The attitude towards small pets for most people that I know is that they're disposable pets for children. A lot of people are shocked that my pigs and hamsters get vet care when they're sick. The attitude is that it's a lot cheaper just to get a new hamster or guinea pig. It always makes me mad because most people aren't surprised when dogs and cats go to the vet, they obviously think those pets have value, but rodents are somehow seen as less worthy of proper care. As someone who has had a lifetime of small animals (mice, hedgehogs, guinea pigs, and hamsters), they are just as unique and special and worthy of care as any other animal. There's no way I'm going to bring an animal into my home and not provide the best I can for it. Sometimes I think people who care about small pets just have bigger hearts than average!

I had a couple hamsters with chronic issues who saw the vet plenty over their two-year lifespans. So what if they only live a couple of years? That couple of years was their whole life, and I was going to make sure that it was a good life for them! What seems short to us is EVERYTHING to them. I'm proud to have been a good pet mom to all my little guys through the years, they deserved no less!
 
I think we all have to remind ourselves that 10/15 years ago this was the mindset of nearly all people and we would not be able to find a group of like minded people to have conversations like this. 20/30 years ago these thoughts were widely held about dogs and cats too. Goldfish were regularly prizes at fares and all "children's pets" were viewed as disposable. 30/50 years ago an animals worth was mainly judged on its price as livestock or its value as a working animal and small pets were mearly toys even feeding them anything besides scraps left over from human meals was often considered not worth it.

The world's not perfect but in this aspect at least I do believe we're heading in the right direction just imagine the conversations we'll be having in 30 years time.
 
Some people live sad lives without pets and can have no idea how much of an individual each animal is. Of course we love our pets, as the characters they are, not for how much they cost us to acquire. But the petless don't get it, and really, if that's the way they think, then they shouldn't be keeping any pets IMO.
When I met my partner he'd never had any pets, the only 'contact' he'd had with animals was betting on horseracing. He was amazed one day when I said that maybe the horse that had just lost him money was having an off day. Perhaps something had upset the horse on the way to the races? He had thought that they just did what they were supposed to do like machines! That was just the start of his education :cool:
Now we care for 6 pets in all and he can do it all - dose with meds, clean up, handle them with confidence. If he hadn't been open to changing his ideas about animals I don't think we'd still be together.
 
I was telling a coworker I wanted to take a trip to France but I have a cat with separation anxiety. He rolled his eyes and said he would be fine.

Now mind you, Barrett develops urinary issues if I'm gone too much and I worry about him not eating and developing lower urinary tract problems. It's very painful for him and he's a sensitive cat.

I did not appreciate the eye roll!
 
Unfortunately we have to bear the uneducated opinions of others from time to time, it's all part of being fur baby parents. Growing up in the equine industry, if an animal is not a horse or a dog, it did not have value. I have worked hard to changed these opinions over the years, but what you can't do is let the narrow minded opinion of others take it's toll on you - they are really not worth it.

We had a key note speaker discussing the use and value of animals in different countries a couple of weeks ago. The value of animals in different cultures and countries still varies a lot. I was shocked to see some practices (that are illegal in the UK from an animal welfare perspective) still being legalised in some countries. It's just a sad fact that we will never truly unite when it comes to how we value animals and there are a lot of cultural considerations at play. Though, no animal should be considered a 'throw away pet'.
Well done on re-educating your co-worker. I also think it's important to continue to educate ourselves, especially when it comes to best practice/welfare standards for animals - look how far we have come with our guinea pig knowledge over the last decade!

My fur babies are everything, to the point I will take sick days from my job if they are sick. Luckily my employer understands that they are my children and this is how it is. Unfortunately this can't be said across the board.

When my Odin (my picture on here) was poorly, I spent over £8000 on his treatment, and bought him a few more happy/comfortable months. That is a small amount in comparison to what my horses and dogs have cost over the years (in basic care, let alone vet care), but why should he have not received the same treatement/effort/care as all of my other animals? My own family still finds it shocking that I spent that on a "guinea pig"...... but the way I see it, I spent it on one of my children. And I would do it again.

Remember, don't let people get you down. I actually feel sorry for the people with these opinions - as they are missing out on what it is like to love an animal, and be loved in return.
Remember we can't change the world for all animals - but we can change the world for our own, and offer them the best of lifetimes

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I was telling a coworker I wanted to take a trip to France but I have a cat with separation anxiety. He rolled his eyes and said he would be fine.

Now mind you, Barrett develops urinary issues if I'm gone too much and I worry about him not eating and developing lower urinary tract problems. It's very painful for him and he's a sensitive cat.

I did not appreciate the eye roll!
Dogs and cats are the only friends who never let you down and don't mind what you wear, what you drive, how you speak, they are just fun and nice ❤️
 
Dogs and cats are the only friends who never let you down and don't mind what you wear, what you drive, how you speak, they are just fun and nice ❤️
As much as I understand the sentiment here I think this mentality is often part of the problem us small animal people face. Our small animals are capable of the same love and bonds that a cat and dog are. And yet cats and dogs are seen as separate and for some reason more worthy.

The bond I had with my beautiful sweet potato was like nothing I could ever explain. Yet when I lost him I was told by a colleague "at least its not like a dog or something where they're really part of the family" and the vets told me "they only do out of hours appointments for cats and dogs" so he had to die slowly in my arms rather than have the dignity of being pts.
 
As much as I understand the sentiment here I think this mentality is often part of the problem us small animal people face. Our small animals are capable of the same love and bonds that a cat and dog are. And yet cats and dogs are seen as separate and for some reason more worthy.

The bond I had with my beautiful sweet potato was like nothing I could ever explain. Yet when I lost him I was told by a colleague "at least its not like a dog or something where they're really part of the family" and the vets told me "they only do out of hours appointments for cats and dogs" so he had to die slowly in my arms rather than have the dignity of being pts.
Sorry, I meant animals in general, not just dogs and cats, just contradicted myself there 😳
 
As much as I understand the sentiment here I think this mentality is often part of the problem us small animal people face. Our small animals are capable of the same love and bonds that a cat and dog are. And yet cats and dogs are seen as separate and for some reason more worthy.

The bond I had with my beautiful sweet potato was like nothing I could ever explain. Yet when I lost him I was told by a colleague "at least its not like a dog or something where they're really part of the family" and the vets told me "they only do out of hours appointments for cats and dogs" so he had to die slowly in my arms rather than have the dignity of being pts.
You are 100% right. When I look into my pet rodent's eyes, I see a very wide and intelligent personality looking back at me ❤️
 
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