US! And advice re bringing pigs in & accommodation

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Hi all, I have a pair of gorgeous boys (born 3 days apart different litters) who were born to 2 different mums that were abandoned and found to be pregnant mallethead. I decided to take on and rescue 2 boys when they were ready to leave their mums who are about a year old now and have always got on famously.

I have had many boys of varying ages over the last 15 years all from rescue and they have always been kept outside and looked after well. Last year with these 2 squeekers being so little I managed to get hubby to let me bring them into the conservatory (inside house not an option-he just will not agree-boo hiss!) which was a first and I loved it and I think so did they, I'd have kept them in all the time but the conserveratory is mainly glass and a bit like a greenhouse and I am not always home to accommodate their daily needs as it warms up. They were in a spare smaller hutch 4x1 foot maybe but I built an extra level into it. They were kept very snug in fleece carpeted accommodation and super snuggly snugglies with snuggle safe heat pad of course! They were turned out in the day into a 25x4 foot purpose built and very sheltered walk in grassed run with large hutch and inside conservatory over night. In spring the conservatory is too warm when the sun shines on good days for them to remain in there but eventually as the summer nights came in they have spent the entire summer out day and night.

They are out now still but I am in SE England and it's getting alot colder overnight. My brother recently came to see me and held them (they have indoor pigs) and commented on how lovely and warm they were which is good :) but I seem to have gone a bid mad and can't remember when I should bring them in over night? My other pigs were always outdoor pigs 365 days a year! The days are still probably a bit too warm to be in the conservatory in the day so I'm a bit stumped are they ok outside for a bit longer with extra measures, before anyone asks no we have no garage,shed or playhouse. We do have a tree house :{ kidding!

My other question is I'd prefer to have them in a big cage on my conservatory table rather than my very low hutch on the floor. I had my brothers 2 girls and they were kept on my table and the height etc made it much nicer to see them rather than in my low hutch (it has very short legs) great for my children but not me! I want to see them everytime I pass them plus our dog would stick his big nose nearby to say hello and his friendlyness was not appreciated by my boys he he!:)) I need some help on cages they had a 120 ferplast which was great but the top was kind of flimsy and came apart every time I cleaned the girls out. I like the idea or a perspex lid save mess and help against draughts plus be more sold. Our hamster had a ferplast one with a big tray base and a perspex lid and I like it any help or thoughts welcome and sorry for HUGE post of waffle! :red
 
Hi and welcome to the forum :)

I can't help you with bringing your pigs in as mine are indoor piggies. It is getting cold quickly now though.

You could always get a C&C cage to put on the table. I have a C&C on my lounge floor but I know a lot of members have them on tables.
I don't know if there are cages with perspex lids. Maybe have a look on zooplus. Feel free to have a nosey round the members cages thread too. There are lots of great ideas there.
http://theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=53210
http://theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=53211

Hope this helps :)
 
Hi there! I too cant help with the bringing in (sorry) but perhaps popping a thermometer inside their hutch for you to check would help you decide?

As far as the cage goes you have a few options, for two boys if your going for a shop bought cage i would advise this one http://www.petplanet.co.uk/product.asp?dept_id=813&pf_id=58415

Or this one
[ame="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ferplast-Rabbit-Cage-Hayrack-140x71x48cm/dp/B001MZUYN0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348403075&sr=8-1"]Ferplast Rabbit 140 Cage With Hayrack Blue 140x71x48cm: Amazon.co.uk: Pet Supplies[/ame]

If you shop around online you can usually find a good deal on an indoor cage

The reason i have suggested these two is because they are slightly larger than the 120, a 120cm cage is the minimum requirement for a pair of piggies, but when it comes to boys bigger is always better to help keep the peace (especially given they have so much space currently outside :) )

Although the perspex topped cages like the zoozone look great they arnt very good for piggies as all the amonia from their wee gets trapped inside and isnt very good for their breathing.

A c&c cage like in the links above is also a fantastic option, they are very versitile and you can make them any shape/size you like :)
 
Hi and thankyou :) I have looked at the set ups everyone else has to get a better view of what I'd like and I think a set up where I can add a descent ledge would be good for food and then more room underneath for playing and forraging. I have noticed some peoples cages vary in height.

I'm not sure that the ammonia would be a problem tbh as I keep my pigs very clean and dry. The fleece wicks away moisture from the top to the towel and pads under. The hamster kind of cage setup I was thinking of was completely open at the top (cage grid) but I can't seem to find any like that lol! I recall seeing one for larger pets with 3 sides of solid plastic with slits I think and a cage cover to the front aspect. Probably an out dated version.

I'm not keen on the C&C cages for my conservatory tbh as it's going to be cold in there. There is no heating you see and it's really not a huge step up from keeping them actually outside iykwim? I'll keep looking about anyhow x
 
Hi Connie, yes that's it to your first post! Boo they come no bigger :( However I am thinking of maybe this option for their 'home' and letting them have free run of the floor when we are home (I only work part time) if it were partitioned off so they couldn't hide behind the furniture! hmm will think more as I've just thought about the dog, and there is also the problem of the small people we live with who would more than likely and more than once leave the conservatory door open, as it leads from kitchen then into the garden as the back door is part of it.

I'd still like them high and 'viewable' so the next thread you copied over was a brilliant set up loved it. But it's large and not something that could be stored easily when not in use for me as I have no garage or shed :0 plus I need something easily moved as I have a back problem. Having my brothers 2 girls here was a good trial for me as I really loved them in their cage compared to the inside hutch mine have and as it was summer I simply put the whole thing on the lawn on warmer days so they didn't slowly roast in the conservatory. However it was blo*dy heavy unless I unloaded them and all their bits and pieces unless hubby was home to help as it had a carry handle each end. I think they had the 120 ferplast.
 
In my opinion a ferplast 120 isnt really big enough for two fully grown males to live in permenantly, however many people do it.
My reasoning is mostly because they usualy grow to be bigger than females, and can be terratorial.

The second set up (with the perspex front) can be very easily taken appart and put back together, so would actually be easier than a normal cage to store in the summer i think!

The moving problem i think is one that wont be gotten around to be honest... nothing thats big enough as a perminant home would also be easily liftable for you from the sounds of it... With my boys, i have "trained" them to walk into their carrier (cat sized one) and then i just lift them up, pop that in their run and they go in and out as they please. Would this be a viable option for you do you think?

Just trying to have a brainstorm :)
 
The cage I really want is the two floored indoor one you can get.

[ame="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Double-100cm-Indoor-Rabbit-Guinea/dp/B0052K1Q3I/ref=pd_sim_sbs_petsupplies_3"]Double 100cm Large Indoor Rabbit Guinea Pig Hutch Cage Run: Amazon.co.uk: Pet Supplies[/ame]

What do you think of this one?
 
Sadly the cage in the link isnt big enough for a pair of piggies

Even though there are two floors because piggies struggle a little with ramps, and they need to run laps to keep fit the 120cm minimum must all be on one level, although having a second level can relieve tensions over space. :)
 
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