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I am having a really difficult time with the loss of my Guinea pig. I spent a week alone trying to save him. It was unexpected. I didn’t get to say goodbye and he didn’t get to say goodbye to his cagemate. I tried repeatedly to get help from vets and they didn’t do nearly enough and I didn’t vet them nearly enough. And my final experience with a vet was rather humiliating and traumatic.

But the hardest part right now is the hindsight. The times he asked me for help and I missed it. The pain he must have been in. One time something I did even caused him to pass out I think because of the tumor. And I keep seeing all these images in my head. I know I didn’t know but I definitely could have and should have done more to find out. I should have responded more to his body language. Pushed more with the vets. Read and researched more. There is so much more I should have done. I think in the earlier stages it might have been treatable. And if not, at least he would have gotten proper pain relief and been able to say goodbye.

I already have ptsd. I think this nature of his death was traumatic for me. I’m having intrusive thoughts related to his death and the events leading up to it. Getting mental health support really isn’t an option. I’m assuming this is crossing from normal grieving to something pathological, but I’m not positive.

I try to tell myself I didn’t know and was acting on the information I had at the time. But I don’t feel that is entirely true. I was too passive. Too distracted. I didn’t manage my money as well as I could have. I didn’t take the time to problem solve. I didn’t watch his body language enough. I can’t help but think about it from his perspective. The pain. The frustration at my not understanding. The desperation for help. How alone he must have felt on his final night.

He was biting me during nail trims and I think it was because of pain due to the tumor. I yelled at him a couple times because it hurt so much and I couldn’t make him stop then started praising him moving forward after he stopped doing it. I felt guilty when I yelled at him then and even worse now understanding why he did it. I thought he had arthritis. I thought I was cutting his nails too short. He kept biting and drawing blood. I thought maybe it was old age. I got loxicom for the pain but the vet didn’t prescribe it correctly. I think the dose was too low and she only had me give it to him once a day. I stopped trimming his nails so short. But I didn’t ask for testing confirming the source of the pain. And the vet didn’t offer until it was far too late.

One time he bit and pulled hard on his little foot on the same side as the tumor. The other time he got floppy and his lips were pale, and I think it was blocking his ability to breathe and maybe he was even passing out. I thought the food just made them look pale and he seemed fine after. I thought maybe he just moved his body that way and I overreacted. I noticed how large he was and even wondered if it was normal. I thought he was just fat. There were a few times at the end I didn’t handle him as carefully as I should have because of the exhaustion and panic—not being rough with him but being careless and not careful enough.

I just feel like my attempts to save him in the last week made him worse. I just feel like I failed him in so many ways. I have no one to support me in person and not much support through text. I left the vet knowing I would be an hour away and knowing he was quite unwell. I knew the vet was giving inconsistent information and I chose to trust the more positive version instead of staying there with him.

I feel like I’m so stuck on this and can’t move past it. Maybe it’s too soon and is only day 3. Any time I try to focus on the positive memories a negative one sneaks in.

He was such a sweet boy. I could have and should have done better for him.
 


HUGS HUGS

Hindsight is always better!

I did so many wrong things over the years with my guineas, I missed so many clues or didn't manage this that and the other. A lot of that due to my own cptsd. Please try and give yourself a break, because life with (c)ptsd is not easy!

I actually did wonder when reading one of your other posts if you might not already be traumatised yourself. I'll send you a DM with a link about that later.

I grieved my guinea deaths enormously. One thing that helped was to think about the sweet things from their lives, the sweet little things they did, picture them in my mind's eye. Even writing or speaking to them, like how sorry I was that... all the things you're blaming yourself for now - direct it to Bear in your mind, it could be healing for you.
 
Maybe it’s too soon and is only day 3
This, absolutely! Give yourself time.

This is a very caring supportive forum and I'm sure more people will be on to support you tomorrow. Most members are in the UK and in bed now. I should be, but I'm a night owl.

Also seeing as how much you're grieving, it's perfectly OK to take care of YOU right now and not start trying to find and bond a new piggy friend. Like with the oxygen mask on a plane - get yourself straightened out before helping others, even others we love so much like our piggies.
 
I'm so sorry for your loss, and that you are having a difficult time dealing with it.

I also suffer from PTSD, and I have found it useful during times were I feel I didn't do enough, or should have done differently, or I was tired and less patient than I should have been, to tell myself that I am only human, and we all make mistakes. What matters is what we do with those mistakes, as long as we are learning from them, they mean something. They can help save another piggy.

Rest assured though that biting at their feet during nail trims is quite normal, it's not pain related theyre just throwing a bit of a tantrum because they don't like it.

I have had several pass from abdominal tumours now and even without pain relief, they live very comfortably. It was only very near the end stages I noticed they struggled. Your piggy has passed, and is not in any pain now, and they will have known that you did your best. They have absolutely zero concept of pain relief etc, their bodies are designed to die naturally and that isn't always nice, so any pain relief you offered was better than none.

It's only been 3 days, give yourself some grace. It will take longer than this to process your loss ❤️ the last piggy I lost was a couple of months ago and to thus day I wish I could go back and do things different, had I not hospitalised her she might still be here..she also may have had a less pleasant passing. Unfortunately we don't have crystal balls, so when these thoughts creep in, I repeat to myself that I did my best. I had the best intentions. I am only human. Eventually I start believing it.
 
With my own piggy story going back half a century right to my childhood and into what we can only call 'stone age' in terms of guinea pig keeping; and with ca. 100 piggies passing through my life in some form or other since then, I have my own little box of eternal regrets - things not working out, making (in hindsight) the wrong judgment call, learning lessons the hard way etc. The little box in my heart is for the pain and suffering of that particular piggy which I was unable to prevent or alleviate.

However, what I have done is to change the opening mechanism of that box. I can never undo what has happened what is in the past but I can take the pain and the lessons on board and pay forward to the benefit of others. After 15 years on this forum, the number of piggies (and their owners) that I have been able to help because of those hard lessons and the pain it caused is now in the hundreds if not thousands via my guides and forum activity.

I still make mistakes and I still am not always in full or even partial control of circumstances so my little box still gets added to with my personal regrets - last with little old Begw; but then I could have never anticipated my accident and ending up in hospital without warning.

However, by turning my pain into a kind of box of seeds of help that is right at the very heart and core of my learning and supporting activity on here and that keeps me on striving forward, I have found a way of turning the pain into something constructive and something that gives me a balance and a good degree of peace of mind because the positive balance grows with time and gained added experience.

Ultimately, life is not about never putting a foot wrong. That way we never learn more and restrict our own grown because we learn more from our mistakes and we grow as humans with the challenges we overcome. Accept your pain, give it its space and face it. But then try to covert it into something that can help others when the time is right. Even if it just a virtual hug or a friendly word at the right time... It's the little things in life that are just as important for our personal journey as they are for those we touch.

Be sad but try not to let your loss overwhelm and cage you. Try to find ways to express it and process it. And at a later stage to be there for somebody else to hand on the seeds for the benefit of future piggies and humans - this also works with human experiences and life lessons... ;)


PS: You can find some practical, simple tips in our grieving guide even if you are unable to access pet bereavement or PTSD support in your own country that can help you. Pet bereavement is recognised as a mental health condition that can affect everybody.
Human Bereavement: Grieving, Processing and Support Links for Guinea Pig Owners and Their Children

I have certainly gone through a full-on experience with my most special of all piggies, Minx, nearly 20 years ago when there was no formal support or understanding in my personal sphere whatsoever - it was a tough 18 months for me but this experience and the lessons learned from it are ultimately at the core of our new End of Life and Bereavement Section on this forum - and how a community that shares and understands both sides can be such a help; especially for those of us who don't have easy access to charity support... Finding the right format for it to fit into our forum and turning it is into something that everybody can benefit from was the challenge, whether you seek consolation or give it. ;)

It's not a quick or straight forward process, so please give yourself time for a life-long learning curve with plenty of potholes along the way. And you do not have to come out of all them covered in glory. But I hope that can get out of them with a new insight and a little more determination each time.
 
This, absolutely! Give yourself time.

This is a very caring supportive forum and I'm sure more people will be on to support you tomorrow. Most members are in the UK and in bed now. I should be, but I'm a night owl.

Also seeing as how much you're grieving, it's perfectly OK to take care of YOU right now and not start trying to find and bond a new piggy friend. Like with the oxygen mask on a plane - get yourself straightened out before helping others, even others we love so much like our piggies.
Thank you so much for all of the support! I tried to rely to your DM directly but I couldn’t figure out how. I will definitely be checking that resource for ptsd out. I’ve actually been trying to find a good online group for that but haven’t had much luck. I did finally get a really good nights sleep. I’m still exhausted but cleaned and cooked and ate more than just candy this morning 🤣 I’m still struggling but it seems to be improving. I’m still worried about the remaining pig, though, and what to do with him. I love the idea of short-term adoption, but the other issue is that I might be moving to a new country soon and that will take months if it happens which means he has quite a lot of time alone. All of this just happened at such bad timing. I considered trying to find something similar to doggy daycare so he can at least spend some time with other pigs each week, but I feel like due to bonding and those things that this might not exist. Also, Ireland isn’t very pig friendly in the sense that it’s hard to find items for them and the like so I feel like this might be a challenge, too.
 
I'm so sorry for your loss, and that you are having a difficult time dealing with it.

I also suffer from PTSD, and I have found it useful during times were I feel I didn't do enough, or should have done differently, or I was tired and less patient than I should have been, to tell myself that I am only human, and we all make mistakes. What matters is what we do with those mistakes, as long as we are learning from them, they mean something. They can help save another piggy.

Rest assured though that biting at their feet during nail trims is quite normal, it's not pain related theyre just throwing a bit of a tantrum because they don't like it.

I have had several pass from abdominal tumours now and even without pain relief, they live very comfortably. It was only very near the end stages I noticed they struggled. Your piggy has passed, and is not in any pain now, and they will have known that you did your best. They have absolutely zero concept of pain relief etc, their bodies are designed to die naturally and that isn't always nice, so any pain relief you offered was better than none.

It's only been 3 days, give yourself some grace. It will take longer than this to process your loss ❤️ the last piggy I lost was a couple of months ago and to thus day I wish I could go back and do things different, had I not hospitalised her she might still be here..she also may have had a less pleasant passing. Unfortunately we don't have crystal balls, so when these thoughts creep in, I repeat to myself that I did my best. I had the best intentions. I am only human. Eventually I start believing it.
I’m trying to do that, as well. And focus on the things I did right, like checking him after the floppy episode to make sure he was okay. And hearing that the paw thing is common is really helpful. He started biting on himself instead of me while doing them and he did decrease that behavior when I stopped cutting them short so it really may have been that. And the same is true, he didn’t seem uncomfortable or anything until the last week. I’m trying to focus on the fact that he had pain relief in the end and died peacefully being petted even if it wasn’t me. His eyes were half closed when I saw his little body which he only did when he was relaxed or when I was petting and talking to him, so I do believe he had a peaceful passing and it’s becoming easier to focus on that. I just hope he and his cage mate were able to say some type of goodbye in the week before he passed and before the night I separated them.
 
Thank you I did look at that page and I have been doing some of the activities. I wrote him a letter apologizing and I also am journaling happy memories of him as they come up. It’s just certain times of the day that get me the most where I feel his absence, like feeding times and floor time. And first thing when I get up. It does seem to be getting easier, though, ever so slowly.
 
Thank you I did look at that page and I have been doing some of the activities. I wrote him a letter apologizing and I also am journaling happy memories of him as they come up. It’s just certain times of the day that get me the most where I feel his absence, like feeding times and floor time. And first thing when I get up. It does seem to be getting easier, though, ever so slowly.

The worst bit of the grieving process for me is always the change in the daily routine and the need to kind of retrain myself in my daily routine to no longer include a piggy. All the unconscious little ties - the automatic visual checks, listening to the noises, chopping up certain food amounts, not being able to touch or pick up etc. are the hardest to deal with and they have the power to really upset you especially over the coming weeks because you cannot really brace for what you do automatically, only to find it no longer working. It can really catch you out badly.

Give yourself time. If you have a bad experience, do have a cry and take your time to deal with it all coming up again; it is OK if you are not OK in thos situations. It is going get gradually better and less harrowing over time. Grieving is never straight forward, it is more like a kind of spiral with some serious dents and dips.
 
Thank you. And yea, I think the hardest one for me is Bear loves pets. I would always reach in and pet him throughout the day. Skunk will only let me pet him when he is on my lap, so I find myself reaching out for pets just for him to pull away. A few times, though, he has let me pet him which is almost worse because that’s unusual and I suspect because he is lonely and missing Bear.
 
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