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Hello!

For my birthday, my girlfriend gifted me a cute little guinea piggy, whom I named Avery. Avery, who is from a pet shop and probably about 3 or so months old, and I were getting along pretty well. He liked to sit on my chest and cuddle and purr all the time. In fact, the reason I chose him over the other piggies was his tendency to sit still and cuddles. Things were gong well, so I decided it would probably be a great idea to find another piggy to cuddle with Avery when I'm not around. I then brought home a rehomed guinea pig who I renamed Alphonso. Alphonso is about 8 months old, very docile, and super cute. The only problem is that we are having a bit of difficulty adjusting to the new arrangement.

At first everyone was mounting everyone, but I didn't interfere because I know male guinea pigs often need to sort out the dominance hierarchy. That was about 2 weeks ago and the mounting seemed to die down. Unfortunately, Avery has been acting very different. He is irritable and often challenges Alphonso when they're in the cage together, rumbling at, chasing, and occasionally mounting him. Alphonso basically just runs away with the exception of yesterday when they had their first fight and I had to remove Aver who was being unusually aggressive and bit me very hard. Other times, when I take either one out for cuddle time, Avery can't stand to be away from Alphonso and spends the whole time running around and crying for him. It really makes me sad to see him so upset, and rather frustrates me because I don't really understand why he's acting this way. Any ideas, suggestions? I wonder if little Avery is too attached to Alphonso and would be better off is I housed them separately.
 
If they have not drawn blood (from eachother, not you) then there is no need to seperate, as long as they both seem happy in themselves most of the time. It sounds like typical boar dominance behaviour, things you can do to help this calm down are

Make sure they have enough space (120cms by 60 cms is the minimum for a pair of piggies - bigger is better, especially for boars as they can fight over space)
Make sure they have two of everything. So two food bowls, two water bottles, two hay racks, two hidey houses (each hidey house needs to have two exits so they cant block eachother in, cardboar boxes with holes cut in are fine for hideys)

:) Hope that helps.
 
How big is the cage you have them in at the moment?

If your going for bigger than 120cms C&C cages are almost always the cheapest option :)
 
Well, I have some limitations in terms of space, but now that I do some research, the cage I now is probably about half the space that they need. I'll try to rearrange some things and see where I end up.
 
The xxl off zoo plus is a great cage and a great price!

I don't work for them btw lol
 
I see you are in america too - that means you have slightly different options than Us in terms of cages, but we do have american members so hopefully they can advise too :)

Space is definatly the most important thing when it comes to boars :)
 
Avery can't stand to be away from Alphonso and spends the whole time running around and crying for him. It really makes me sad to see him so upset, and rather frustrates me because I don't really understand why he's acting this way. Any ideas, suggestions? I wonder if little Avery is too attached to Alphonso and would be better off is I housed them separately.

My baby boars, for all the bickering they do really love one another. There's a lot of bravado (mounting, rumblestrutting, chasing) from my dominant one whilst the other just munches on his hay. I used to get very upset because I thought one was being bullied but he always runs to find his bro and loves sleeping beside him.
Separation, from what I hear, is a last ditch resort and like the posters before me should only be done if blood is drawn (sounds quite dramatic saying it like that!) otherwise you just have to let them work it out.
 
I have both my boys out for lap time, ooops sorry cuddles :)) as I didnt want either one to miss the other and it works well as they are both much more confident with each other to cuddle up to as well as me. I do however put a "fence" around the front of the sofa because I dont want them to jump or fall off the edge while I cuddle them, its better to be safe than sorry and you cant always keep an eye on both at the same time. Plus I have to be careful of my dog so the barrier is there to protect them from her too.

Your best option I would have thought with lack of space is a c&c cage, grids seem to be much easier to get in america than over her in the uk and you can devise the cage set up to fit the space you have rather than having to fit a shop brought cage with no flexability. Some ideas here http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=53210
 
There is always the option os going up as well. I have seen some awesome c & c style cages for sale on us sites which are 2 storey. and look amazing! it doesnt offer that much more space but its still a bit more which if your struggling for space in terms of floor is always a option.

Just remember if you go for height make sure ** piggies cant fall from any great height as they arent as nimble on thier feet as say rats or hammys
 
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