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Suspected heart pig

defairmans

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Hi everyone,

We adopted four 2-3 year old sows a few months ago. One of them is Clementine, an Abby. We’ve noticed from the beginning that she breathes very heavily, especially when she is on her side. She is completely healthy in every other way.
A few weeks ago, the heavy breathing looked intense and we thought something is not right. We’d suspected that she was a heart pig because of her breathing so off she went to the exotic vet to ask for a trial of frusemide.
She had no symptoms of respiratory illness and we wanted our exotic vet to do a conscious X-ray to look at her heart and lungs.
The vet examined her and said it could be a respiratory infection so prescribed Sulfatrim for 10 days with Metacam as an anti inflammatory for 7 days.
There wasn’t a major noticeable difference and now that she has finished both meds, her sides are heavy again.
The vet refused to do a conscious X-ray and said it would be a waste of our money. I refuse to put her under when my gut is telling me that she is a heart pig. I have had two before and trust my gut. She is perfectly happy and active otherwise and I am not willing to put her under and potentially lose her. We’ve hardly had a chance to give her a good life yet. She’s only just settled in with us and I am already emotionally bonded to her.
We asked for frusemide but the vet said it could do more harm than good. I don’t see how a short trial would.
She said it would cost £1000 to X-rays of her front, sides, to swab her and aspirate a lump under her chin (which I am certain is a sebaceous cyst). She said it may be her ovaries pressing on her diaphragm.
I very rarely question this vet but my gut is telling me that we will lose her if she goes under. I am so stressed about it that I am losing sleep.
She is going back on Tuesday but I don’t anticipate that the vet will give us a trial “without a diagnosis”.
Do I ask for Zithromax (azithromycin) in case it is a stubborn infection? Then I will have to advocate for Emeprid in case she gets bloat. Or do I beg for a trial of Frusemide?
I may be able to get a conscious X-ray at my normal vet but then what?
Please advise me. I’ve just adopted her and I feel like I am already failing her. I just want her to have a happy life with her sisters. I get stressed when I see her sides going up and down. She doesn’t have the classic hooting of a heart pig but it just looks so similar to my other heart pigs. She is very pudgy and has gained weight. There is no discharge, coughing or sneezing.
 
Hi and welcome

You are obviously a very caring owner.

I am very sorry for your dilemma. Diaphragmic (heavy) breathing can be caused by a heart problem but the issue can also sit outside the heart but putting pressure on it.

An x-ray under mild sedation (but not a full GA) should bring clarity re. a potential fluid build up in either the lungs, the chest and in severe cases the body cavity. Please accept that in order to get the necessary results, guinea pigs need to be placed in awkward, unnatural positions with their limbs pushed out of the way, which is the reason for the sedation.

Unfortunately, without any further exploration you are medically stuck; especially as other pointers are missing. You do not have to go for the full test battery but I would personally opt for an x-ray to see where the problem sits so you vet can then medicate. :(
 
Thanks for the reply, Wiebke. I have always thought that sedation of any kind on a pig with breathing difficulties and a potential heart problem is risky. I don’t really see what course of treatment would wind up being suggested other than heart meds or hormonal meds for an ovarian problem. Maybe I am wrong.
 
Thanks for the reply, Wiebke. I have always thought that sedation of any kind on a pig with breathing difficulties and a potential heart problem is risky. I don’t really see what course of treatment would wind up being suggested other than heart meds or hormonal meds for an ovarian problem. Maybe I am wrong.

Sedation with a potential heart piggy is not lightly undertaken unless absolutely necessary but it also has to be said that there have been improvements in the application of it over the last dozen years or so.
 
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