Sow/boar bonding advice

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Hellooo,

I have Bea who is 2/3 year old Sow and have recently (12 days ago) had Max off Gems.

Bea previously lived with Ernie until he sadly had to be pts. She was never aggressive towards him, they weren't exactly snuggle buddies but they got on and would share any hidey hole and most food, Bea would often steal from Ernie though. But they got on very well.

However, I've been trying over the past 12 days to get Bea and Max to bond. Had them out on the kitchen floor a couple of times with lots of tunnels, boxes and ofcourse, the beloved veg, grass and hay.

The first 10 minutes they're distracted with discovering the new play pen, but then Max will hunt Bea down teeth chatter loudly, rumble strutt (so much so that he moves all boxes and tunnerls around him with his bum! never seen such hips sway before!) and then Bea will run off.

He'll chase Bea and she'll suddenly turn round and launch at him, at which point I break it up with a clap and a shout. Once they get to this point he gets scared of her, will not stop teeth chattering and if they get near each other Bea launches at him and he won't walk past her, he keeps his head high, teeth out and moves his bum past and then backs away.

Going past this point they just keep fighting. There's no blood or actual bites but Bea is very aggressive towards Max.

Max hasn't mounted her once, he can't get near her bum as she'll turn round and go for him.


Basically. Am I being too soft? should I let them carry on fighting until there is blood?
I HATE seeing piggies fight, but I have let these two go further than I would allow to see if we can sort out the dominant pig but I'm worried as I can't leave them un attended.

I'm not giving up. Just need some advice on next steps. I've read the stickies on boar bonding and sow bonding but wondered if there is anything different with boar/sow bonding?

They are currently neighbours and Max spends several hours a day knawing the bars and strutting his stuff infront of a less than impressed Bea
 
You are doing the right thing with having them side by side, so don't feel too down.

However, there is always a big "IF" with cross gender bonding: not every sow/boar combination will actually gel and that shows pretty much right from the beginning. In that respect I think that you may have to consider exit strategies. You can give it some more careful tries, but the signs are frankly not very encouraging; Bea is clearly not accepting him. When piggies make up their minds, there is unfortunately not a lot a you can do; they either want to get along or not. Piggies can be QUITE a fickle lot, much more than you would think!

That is the reason why I personally always recommend a first meeting at a rescue rather than intros after rehoming. I would think that Max is too bolshy for Bea's taste - she would obviously prefer a much more submissive boy, like her previous mate.
 
Personally steph and this is from experience, have a neutral pen with just newspaper, flattened hay so they cant hide and scattered veggies everywhere.
Also having them together on your lap with a box of veggies hand feeding sometimes helps.

I haven't kept up with the post and so dont know who Gems is so dont get offended but have you checked he is a boar!
 
I can assure you he definitely is a boar, I paid for the neutering op myself!

Like I said Steph next time we're down Birmingham I'll pop in to see you and if things aren't working out I'll happily bring him back home with me. I really hoped things would go smoothly for you, and I feel awful that it's looking as though it's not going to work out, it's nothing you've done wrong, just as Wiebke said sometimes piggies just take a dislike to each other. We're next down on the 7th June so I will be able to see for myself what their behaviour is like then
 
I can assure you he definitely is a boar, I paid for the neutering op myself!

Like I said Steph next time we're down Birmingham I'll pop in to see you and if things aren't working out I'll happily bring him back home with me. I really hoped things would go smoothly for you, and I feel awful that it's looking as though it's not going to work out, it's nothing you've done wrong, just as Wiebke said sometimes piggies just take a dislike to each other. We're next down on the 7th June so I will be able to see for myself what their behaviour is like then

gems where did you get your boar neutered? i live in chester-le-street and as a family we've normally gone to abbey vets. i've taken my two girls there for a check-up before and they were lovely with them, but fortunately have never needed to take them for anything more serious. i'm looking to get my young boar neutered but don't know their history with guineas and i'm curious where you take yours x
 
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