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Soft poos and weight loss

GirlFromMars

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One of my boys has been having poo-related issues for several weeks now and I'm at a bit of a loss what to do!

Just before Christmas, we noticed a couple of soft poos in the cage, so we eased off on the veggies and hoped it was just a one-off until on the Sunday night, I went to top up their hay and pellets to find several spots of full-on liquid faeces. I separated the one responsible in case it was anything contagious and syringe fed mashed up pellets and water until we could get him to a vet the next day.

He has seen two different vets at our normal practice who both gave us Supreme Recovery Plus to syringe feed and recommended supplementing vitamin C and probiotics. He's having at least a full sachet of recovery food a day and we've also tried both Pro-C and Protexin probiotic. His poos are ranging from cow pats to clumpy to big blobs to soft but formed to small and skinny to almost normal, but haven't been liquid again since that first time. In fact, on Saturday, I had him in a seperate cage for a few hours and his poos were practically perfect and he was steadily putting on weight and I got my hopes up that he was almost better but he went back to sloppy poos on Sunday and his weight dropped again.

On Wednesday, we took him to Holly House vets in Leeds on referral from our vet. She checked him over and couldn't find any obvious signs of anything wrong. She doesn't think it's dental because he can move his tongue freely and is eating fine, she couldn't feel any lumps or bumps, his heart sounded fine and he's not bloated. She didn't want to give him any antibiotics or anti-inflammatories in case they made his gut worse and didn't think he needed any gut stimulants as he had no problems pooing (he did one right on the table). She suspects it may be a metabolic issue but says we can't find out any more without blood tests which he'll need putting to sleep for. I was pretty wary of doing this so she sent us home with a high calorie supplement to add to his syringe feed to try and bulk him up but so far he's still not gaining weight and if anything, his poos are getting sloppier again.

I've ordered some fibreplex to try but it feels as if we're just guessing at things now and I'm really not sure what to do. It'll cost over £200 for blood tests (which I'm okay with) but given he's around six years old (he's a rescue so we're not 100% on the age) and he's now quite skinny (averaging around 820-830g), I'm not sure it's the right thing to do. I'd feel terrible if anything went wrong, especially considering we're not guaranteed to find anything out and, even if we do, it might not be anything we can do much about...

He seems okay in himself, he has his quieter moments but he's still running around and wheeking and jumping on his house. I just don't know what to do for the best - it's so frustrating when he starts doing really well and then goes backwards again! 😭
 
My vets are not particularly cavy savvy but the one at Holly House is. She seemed very knowledgeable but I'd rather we exhausted all other options before anaesthetising him...

He's on a strict no-veg diet (much to his annoyance), he had his first doses of Fibreplex yesterday and we tried 'poo soup' for the first time this morning (he wasn't impressed but I got it down him lol). We're going to persevere for the time being, unless he takes a turn for the worse, and hope it's just a matter of time...
 
What this is sounds like stasis. I have had one of my guinea pigs die from it. Stasis can kill a guinea pig within hours, and you should REALLY take him to a cavy savvy vet and demand an X-Ray.

Best of luck
 
Holly House are on the recommended vet list. I would say to let your holly house guide you here as they are cavy savvy.

It’s such a difficult decision when the blood tests may not give you answers but as you’ve said without them you are just guessing and trying things without really knowing if they are going to help. The tests may give a conclusive answer and enable you to treat the problem, but even if they don’t, would you rather know that the blood tests results weren’t of any help but you know tried with them? It’s not easy and I am sure we would all have our opinions on what we would do in that situation. I’ve got my fingers crossed that you can sort this out for him.
 
What this is sounds like stasis. I have had one of my guinea pigs die from it. Stasis can kill a guinea pig within hours, and you should REALLY take him to a cavy savvy vet and demand an X-Ray.

Best of luck
This doesnt sound like stasis at all @Moe & Mufasa as stasis is when the guts shut down and piggy wont eat and can no longer poop. This piggy is eating and has sloppy poops which is quite different.
@GirlFromMars I would definitely be guided by the vet but at 6 years old personally I would try the poop soup and fibreplex for a week or two first while thinking carefully about anaethesia and blood tests. Healing wheeks for your piggy x
 
Some bad news!

SpongeBob had been doing SO well all week - he was putting on weight and his poos, whilst still on the softer side, were starting to look a lot better. He was even starting to get a little bit of "chunk" back around his belly. I got home from work on Thursday evening to find several sloppy messes in the cage, his weight had dropped again and he was back to looking really skinny. It's almost like his body had completely emptied itself! He's starting to pick up again now but we've bitten the bullet and booked him in for blood tests on Tuesday morning so hopefully we'll get some answers.

To make matters worse, our other boar (around the same age) has started showing signs of impaction so it looks like he'll be going in for a check-up as well :roll:
 
Some bad news!

SpongeBob had been doing SO well all week - he was putting on weight and his poos, whilst still on the softer side, were starting to look a lot better. He was even starting to get a little bit of "chunk" back around his belly. I got home from work on Thursday evening to find several sloppy messes in the cage, his weight had dropped again and he was back to looking really skinny. It's almost like his body had completely emptied itself! He's starting to pick up again now but we've bitten the bullet and booked him in for blood tests on Tuesday morning so hopefully we'll get some answers.

To make matters worse, our other boar (around the same age) has started showing signs of impaction so it looks like he'll be going in for a check-up as well :roll:

Please have them vet checked as soon as you can.

Here is more information on digestive problems, including diarrhea: Digestive Disorders: Diarrhea - Bloat - GI Stasis (No Gut Movement) And Not Eating

Please take them off any fresh food, switch to weighing daily at the same time and step in with syringe feeding support and watering asap.
Emergency, Crisis and Bridging Care until a Vet Appointment
Complete Syringe Feeding Guide

The links have all the practical 'how to' details to help people that have no experience. Please take the time to read them!
 
SpongeBob has been an absolute trooper at the vets today! He came round from the anesthetic absolutely fine and has been eating and drinking well so I'm very relieved! The vet actually said she'd never seen a piggy want to eat so soon after waking up :))

He's had an xray which showed a little bit of gas in the stomach/gut and the possible beginnings of arthritis in his back knees but nothing particularly out of the ordinary. He's also had an in-house glucose test which came back normal so no diabetes. We should have the rest of the test results back by tomorrow or Thursday at the latest so hopefully we'll know a little more soon...

As for Patrick, he doesn't seem to have had any impactions since I last posted and there's just as many poops in the cage as normal so fingers crossed it was just a blip - we'll be keeping a close eye on him!
 
Aww I hope you get to the bottom of it.. such a worrying time.. x
 
Sorry it's been a while but I completely forgot I never posted an update 🙈

Just to let you all know; SponegeBob is completely back to his old self! We think it was an infection in the end, though we're not 100% what kind. He had a two week course of antibiotics and steadily piled his weight back on. Our aim was to get him back over 1000g and it took a couple of months but he's now averaging around 1050g, which considering he dropped to around 750g at his worst, we're really pleased with!
 
Thank you very much for the update! I am so glad that he has made a full recovery!
 
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