Should we get another boar?

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I am sure this topic has been brought up many, many times. I am just looking for advice on our specific situation.

We brought home our first ever guinea pig about two weeks ago. We got Nibble from someone looking to re-home him on craigslist. The young couple that had him did not provide a lot of details. They had gotten him and his brother, when they were about 6 months old. They believed he was born around the first of the year, making him roughly 9 months old. They had already re-homed his brother, due to the two fighting. They described their fighting as "trying to kill each other".

All I have read Leads me to believe we should try to give him companionship of his own kind. I live in the state of Oregon, and neutering guinea pigs is not common, or affordable, so my only real option is another boar. We do not really have guinea pig rescues here, so dating is pretty much out of the question. There are a lot of 6month-2 year old guinea pigs available on craigslist regularly. So, if I were to get him a companion I would most likely just have to pick one and hope they could get along. Based on online research it seems very likely that two randomly paired boars will often not get along, and would possibly need to be housed separately the rest of there lives. I have to admit that I am not very excited about this possibility.

Since I have never seen Nibble with another guinea pig I have no clue if he is dominant, or what part he played in the fighting with his brother. It did sound like both parties were equally aggressive, but again, I really don't know.

Just to let you know what Nibble is like, and his current situation: he is very loved. I am a stay at home mom of two young girls, and we are home quite a lot. Nibble's cage is in our living room, where we spend most of our time. We leave the door to his cage open when we are home, and he comes to the door to be petted, and to squeak for veggies. He jumps around very excitedly when the children talk to him. He also makes little cute noises when we come home from being away, or get up in the morning. We get him out of his cage once or twice a day for petting, and let him run around a bit. Really though, he seems to prefer his cage, and mostly tries to hide when he is let loose on the house. He was not handled a lot at his previous home, so he is sometimes reluctant to be picked up and held. He has gotten a lot more comfortable with us though. He has never bitten, or shown any aggression with us. He spends most of his days munching on hay, laying around, and squeaking for veggies, with the occasional frisky spell where he runs and jumps around.


I am just wondering what others would do, or have done in similar situations?
We really do want him to be happy. I just wonder if getting another boar will make him happy, angry, or ? I would just like to get as much information as possible, and hear personal stories of what worked or did not. Then I will feel more informed and able to make the best possible choice for him.

Thanks for any thoughts you might have,
Sarah
 
Firstly litter mates doesn't necessarily mean they will be friends for life as you have found out. Between the age of 5-15 months males go through a teenage period where they throw their weight around as hormones kick in and they can and do fall out. They might have been in a small cage before, a pair of boars need 120cm minimum and more if you have the space, they also need two of everything in some cases. I personally think if you have the space, get another piggy as if they do bond there is no better bond then seeing your two piggies snuggled up together and piggies are herd animals even another piggy in a cage next to them they can hear and smell is better then being completely alone. But obviously this is if you have the space for another cage, on the off chance they don't bond.

Your options are to go to a rescue if you have any in you state? Ask if they do boar bonding? At his age your best bet is a younger guinea pig, younger the better. I have found 6 week old babies and older males will bond and not fight. An adult piggy won't go for a baby as they pose no threat.
 
I bonded an older boar with a baby a couple of years ago. It went very well. The baby boy used to tuck himself under the older one's chin, when he was small enough to fit, and they didn't fight at all. Then the older one died and we did the same again, and again it went fine and they are good friends, just a few tiny squabbles in the early weeks but very companionable now.
 
Thank you degu rock and Paddy.
It sounds like the younger pig older pig combo is generally most successful. I am wondering how young is best though. The youngest I have seen around here are 3-5 months old. Is this too old? Would any pig under 6 months be young enough? I guess I don't really know at what age they are still considered babies, or even at what age they are full size. There is a "poultry swap" this weekend in the next town over, and there are going to be guinea pigs there. Hopefully I can get an idea of how big they are at what ages from this.

degu rock - there are rescues in my state, but the ones with guinea pigs are quite a long drive away. This makes my ability to do dating very limited. Occasionally there are some at the rescue the next town over, but it is very rare, and they are adopted within days. So would be a fairly long uncertain wait for local dating opportunities.
 
Update - need ADVICE STILL!

I found someone locally who has 3 month and 4 month old boars. I am just wondering if this will be young enough?

Any thoughts are appreciated ASAP as the owner of these baby pigs would like to meet soon.

Many thanks!
 
3-4 months is risky as hormones are kicking in, they might get on they might not. I would go for younger if you are introducing them yourself as for a first timer it would be easier if a rescue can't do it.
 
Thanks degu rock.
I had a feeling this was true, and did not meet with this person. I think it just might take a while for Nibble to get a friend, but hopefully it will work out when he does.
 
I always had a lot of success introducing older boars. By then they've settled down to a life of just lying around, chewing and nosing off their younger brothers.
It will make your cage-age older, though.
 
I have become a bit skeptical about the baby pig idea. One reason being that I would probably have to go to a breeder to find a piggie as young as 6 weeks in my area. Also, I worry what will happen when the baby starts to get hormonal.

I have checked around the Humane Societies in my state, and they are willing to do introductions. The main issue is that the one that gets the most guinea pigs is about an hour and a half drive away. Also, they do not currently have any guinea pigs, so it could be a long wait still. Even with the wait it sounds like a dating situation might be the best. As cute a the babies look, I think I would really feel better giving an adult pig a home.

I also found a somewhat local vet that does guinea pig neutering. I am kind of thinking of that as a last resort though, if I cant get him matched up with another boar.

I would still be interested in hearing what anyone else might think.

I wonder how often the adult/baby boar combination goes bad as the baby grows up? I am also curious of the success rate of neutered boar/ sow bonding? And of course I am very curious what anyone thinks typical success rates are with two adult boars meeting in a dating situation?

In the mean time, we try to give Nibble lots of love and attention. He does not seem miserable on his own, but how would I really know?
 
Someone local to me has a 4 week old boar they are re-homing via craigslist. Apparently they adopted a pregnant pig and he is the only boy of the litter. I am seriously considering contacting them. I have just heard so many mixed opinions, so I am worried.

What are other peoples experiences? Will this be likely to work out, or is there a chance our 10month old boar might attack and hurt such a little one?

Please advise!
 
It honestly depends entirely on the personalities of your pigs. If you get a younger boar you just have to be prepared for them to start rumbling, mounting and chattering at each other around about the 4+ months mark. Give the plenty of room and they are generally fine.

It's safer to go older as pigs have already settled into their personalities but it's easier to pair a mini-pig with an older boar because the mini pig will immediately assume a submissive position. It's very unlikely a pig will attack a baby, but you will see the older boar chase and mount the baby so you will have to provide some mini-pig sized bolt holes just in case.

Give them plenty of room either way and you'll be fine. Don't over think this too much -- either way they could get on if personalities mismatch.

Guinea Pig Social Life Linkage: http://www.cavyspirit.com/sociallife.htm
Cage minimums for boars: http://www.cavyspirit.com/Cages.htm
A good introduction walkthrough: http://guinea-pigs.livejournal.com/3002707.html
 
hi

I am new to the site and I have no clue how to set up a thread of my own so I hope you don't mind me crashing this thread to ask for advise.
I am in a similar situation....looking at introducing a boar to a boar.

Background info:

I bought a baby pig 6 months ago (Zeus), felt he was not happy with life alone so a few days later went and bought a 2nd pig (Albus). There was no gradual introduction, they just went straight in together and everything went perfect. Sadly Zeus died last night and now Albus is very scared when in his cage. He was never a big fan of being held and only recently came upto the cage side when I am there talking to him. Now he just sits and stares :(
Everyone in my house lead busy lifes with 8-5 being spent out the house most days so don't like Albus being alone for that long, atm we are leaving music or the tv on for him so its not silent. When we are in he is able to be out his cage running about but its sad to see him play himself and have no one to answer him when he squeaks.

Would I be able to introduce a new baby boar with him? I have a 2nd cage to allow the introduction to be gradual but I am not overly keen on having to keep 2 cages forever but obviously will do what is best for the pigs.
I love the sound of dating but cant find anywhere near here (Glasgow), plus I would want another pig around the same age as Albus (6months) or younger and by the sounds of it most dating is with older pigs.


Any advise would be great, I know its a 50/50 chance they will not like each other but I am willing to give it a go for Albus!



thanks
Naomi & Albus
 
When my baby boar started getting frisky with his mum and auntie at 3 weeks of age, I placed him in with my old 5 year old boar as his sister had just died. They got on brilliantly. When old timer died, I got the youngster neutered and once he was safe, he moved back in with the girls and the 3 of them are inseparable. ;)
 
hi

I am new to the site and I have no clue how to set up a thread of my own so I hope you don't mind me crashing this thread to ask for advise.
I am in a similar situation....looking at introducing a boar to a boar.

Background info:

I bought a baby pig 6 months ago (Zeus), felt he was not happy with life alone so a few days later went and bought a 2nd pig (Albus). There was no gradual introduction, they just went straight in together and everything went perfect. Sadly Zeus died last night and now Albus is very scared when in his cage. He was never a big fan of being held and only recently came upto the cage side when I am there talking to him. Now he just sits and stares :(
Everyone in my house lead busy lifes with 8-5 being spent out the house most days so don't like Albus being alone for that long, atm we are leaving music or the tv on for him so its not silent. When we are in he is able to be out his cage running about but its sad to see him play himself and have no one to answer him when he squeaks.

Would I be able to introduce a new baby boar with him? I have a 2nd cage to allow the introduction to be gradual but I am not overly keen on having to keep 2 cages forever but obviously will do what is best for the pigs.
I love the sound of dating but cant find anywhere near here (Glasgow), plus I would want another pig around the same age as Albus (6months) or younger and by the sounds of it most dating is with older pigs.


Any advise would be great, I know its a 50/50 chance they will not like each other but I am willing to give it a go for Albus!



thanks
Naomi & Albus

Hello, Welcome to the forum. Sorry to hear you lost Zeus last night

Try a give Albus lots of attention over the next few days and make sure he is eating... There are not many rescues up in Scotland at the moment, but if you can start a new thread I will point one of our scottish posters your way in case they know of anywhere near to you.

This shows you how to 'Create a New Thread' step by step http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/s...t-a-New-Thread

Hope that helps
Lee
 
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