Separated Boars, still being agressive through mesh....is this stressful for them?

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Hi guys :)

My two boars were being very very agressive to each other, loud teeth chattering, lunging and biting each other. I put a divide down the middle of their C&C cage, so they could still see and speak to each other, but couldn't bite each other through the mesh.

Do you guys think the agression they are still showing each other could be stressing them out? They seem happy, but if I had someone being horrible to me every day through my bedroom wall I'd be pretty unhappy!

I'm making their cage bigger today, and I've got some new grids that are solid. Do you think it would be better to separate them with the solid grids? Then they cant be horrible to each other? Or is that cruel as they will be all on their own with no other piggies to talk to?

I would like to get them new friends at some point, but since their still only 14 weeks old think its better to wait till their a lil bit older and less likely to be agressive again.

Thank you for any help you can offer x
 
I think separating them with a solid divide in some areas of their housing is a good idea, they should have an area where they can choose to get away from each other. Once they have adjusted to side by side living they may be happier to interact through the divide and you never know may be able to live together again once their hormones aren't raging quite so strongly - though that's months away yet.

HTH

Suzy x
 
How big in the cage/area/hutch they are in?

Boars need quite a bit of space and if their space they were in together has been halfed with a divide to separate them then this could also caue problems. Are there any females near them? They will also fight if this is the case and they can smell the females.
 
You are right Suzy, I will use solid divides for half of it, and have some mesh so they can still talk if they want to. I never thought of that, before they could always see each other! Thank you so much :) Hopefully one day, they will like each other again. I'm hoping maybe when they are 1, to bath them together and introduce on neutral ground. See what happens :D they lived together at pets at home happily!

Hey Toffee! They were in a small pets at home cage for the first week, then through you wonderful people I found out the cage was far too small. This was also when they started fighting - I hate pets at home for selling me that cage as that could have brought al this fighting on.

I separated them in a large cardboard box overnight and went and got all the materials to make a C&C cage. At the min they are in a 3x2 grid cage, but I'm extending that today. Do you think that was too small for them? No females around at all, just my two lil guys.

thanks for answering, your help is so valued! x
 
Give them some time to cool down immediately after a fall out - feelings are obviously still running high!

I agree with Suzy that it would be good if they had a "window" for interaction, but also if they had some blocked off areas too. That will hopefully help!
 
Well the bigger you can make it the better, hopefully they will live in harmony one day, though they are hormonal at the moment so there is bound to be squabbles. perhaps see how they get on together outside on the grass one day....? Good luck though xx
 
Fantastic idea about the grass, will get them out and see what happens. With a towel ready of course!

I have 30 grids to work with, so hopefully can make something nice and big for them :) then they can keep away from each other and calm down like Wiebke said - thanks :) hopefully keeping a few little windows will keep the hope alive until these crazy kids calm down! xx
 
Good luck with it, sadly boars dont always get along as sows do, if you find that they just aren't ever going to get along, you could always take them both boar dating to find them a spayed wife.....? Just an idea.
 
deeandnick said:
Fantastic idea about the grass, will get them out and see what happens. With a towel ready of course!

I have 30 grids to work with, so hopefully can make something nice and big for them :) then they can keep away from each other and calm down like Wiebke said - thanks :) hopefully keeping a few little windows will keep the hope alive until these crazy kids calm down! xx
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I would NOT put them together right now - give them time to get over their hormones (which will take a few months); only when they are happy with each other and no signs of aggression. Too soon, and you are bound to end up with a fight and may even provoke a permanent fall out. Right now, they are only at the beginning of the big hormones and the real test is only to come. Generally, the stroppy months last betwee 3-4 and about 12 months old. There are often spikes at the beginning, at about 6 and then again 8-10 months old where even the best of relationships will be tested.
 
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I would NOT put them together right now - give them time to get over their hormones (which will take a few months); only when they are happy with each other and no signs of aggression. Too soon, and you are bound to end up with a fight and may even provoke a permanent fall out. Right now, they are only at the beginning of the big hormones and the real test is only to come. Generally, the stroppy months last betwee 3-4 and about 12 months old. There are often spikes at the beginning, at about 6 and then again 8-10 months old where even the best of relationships will be tested.
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I was terrified the last time i put them together, it was horrible and totally freaked us all out. Roll on 9 months from now! x
 
Sorry i didnt specify this but one each, as one between them will cause disasterous problems!
 
The only problem is that spayed sows are like gold dust in this country. There is only one rescue to my knowledge that spays sows as a matter of policy, and they tend to have a waiting list dependent on sows coming into rescue in the first place; they only operate during the summer months, too. (RNGP Welfare in Rugby)

Spaying is a much mose invasive, risky (and expensive) operation than neutering boars. It is usually performed just for medical reasons.

As your boys have not fully and permanently fallen yet, you are still in with a chance that they can live together as adults, or at least share run time.
 
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I think it would be too soon to get another piggie, i can keep it in mind for the future :) i am hoping these guys get on when their older and can be happy again.

I finished my cage...


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they seem happy :) thanks again everyone! x
 
I am glad that you have found a solution. Hopefully, both boys will be happier with having their own personalised territory now.
 
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