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This week I've taken in a young (my guess 5ish months) boar who has had ringworm. He was treated with intrafungal for 3 weeks 6 weeks ago, the hair has completely grown back, as far as I know he wasn't bathed at the end of treatment. Bobby is in quarantine at the moment. I have a set of ringworm piggy clothes kept in that room for when I handle him/clean him out just in case. Is there any point in bathing him with Nizoral now or would I stress him out unnecessarily. Poor boy is very nervous of this strange new house and people. I wonder if I should quarantine him longer than the normal 2 weeks? I'd find it hard to forgive myself if we passed ringworm to my other boars but would like to get him next to my singles as soon as possible as he's been on his own since around 2 months old. I'm feeling really twitchy about this, of course if the worst comes to the worst I can and will deal with it but there is a slight element of what have I done running through my head!
 
This week I've taken in a young (my guess 5ish months) boar who has had ringworm. He was treated with intrafungal for 3 weeks 6 weeks ago, the hair has completely grown back, as far as I know he wasn't bathed at the end of treatment. Bobby is in quarantine at the moment. I have a set of ringworm piggy clothes kept in that room for when I handle him/clean him out just in case. Is there any point in bathing him with Nizoral now or would I stress him out unnecessarily. Poor boy is very nervous of this strange new house and people. I wonder if I should quarantine him longer than the normal 2 weeks? I'd find it hard to forgive myself if we passed ringworm to my other boars but would like to get him next to my singles as soon as possible as he's been on his own since around 2 months old. I'm feeling really twitchy about this, of course if the worst comes to the worst I can and will deal with it but there is a slight element of what have I done running through my head!

Hi

I am not usually a proponent of unnecessary bathing but I had ringworm carried in twice by piggies either previously affected with it or going through quarantine with acutely affected ones even though they were fully healed/free of it and not having had a bath before coming here.
Please give your boy a bath in order to remove any spores that could be sitting in his coat and that could cause a potential outbreak some time down. In this case, bathing upon arrival if in any doubt is really worth the hassle and stress compared to the one you'd have with an acute outbreak.

You can use nizoral/human anti-dandruff shampoo for a one-off piggy bath (Nizoral is rather harsh on piggy skin for a full course but can be used if your vet doesn't offer oral treatment or a medicated dip and if needed use it on your own skin and hair if in contact with the piggies or your hands), any anti-fungal dip if you have one at home for fungal or any piggy skin ph unmedicated shampoo since the bath is esentially about mechanical removal of any spores not in direct contact with the skin and therefore out of reach of any oral systemic fungal medication or accidentally picked up from the bedding after falling into it from sitting loosely in the coat.
This bath at the end of any ringworm treatment in whatever form is all about potentially carrying any loose spores across and about preventing as much as possible a new outbreak, which can be months or even two years down the line and closing off an often overlooked transmission angle. Oral treatment is by far the most effective but this is its blind spot.
Ringworm: Hygiene, Care And Pictures

Just deal with your quarantine piggy after your other pets (feeding, medicating, handling, grooming, cleaning etc.) so there is much less risk of accidentally carrying anything across and always thoroughly wash your hands, lower arms and any body parts you may have touched without thinking about it before and after.
Our hygiene tips for a range of situations are fully listed and explained in this guide here, which deals with all possible transmission aspects: Contagion - Inter-species transmission and pet care during owner illness/pregnancy (incl. Covid)

If Bobby is fully treated for ringworm and has had his quarantine for other potential illnesses, then he can move next to your other piggies after the bath, so the extra stress will be worth it. All the best and many happy years with your new boy!
Here are our bathing tips on how to minimise the risk of accidents and injuries when bathing piggies: Bathing (including cleaning grease glands)
 
Thank you. That's the way I was thinking. I've got Nizoral, I ordered some when I knew he was coming here.
 
Bobby, now Bertie has now developed ringworm on his ear. He is seeing our vet tomorrow, all five piggies will be having full intrafungal treatment. I've read and reread the ringworm thread several times. I've got F10 and have ordered more in case we run out, plus F10 gel and handcream for me! I've got his treatment record from the last owner. I don't think he was treated for long enough but will see what our vet says tomorrow. Just reopening this thread in case I need it and so anyone else finding it can see the best laid plans don't always work! Even if he'd had a full 14 day quarantine when he came here it wouldn't have been enough, symptoms showed on day 16. :hb:
 
Bobby, now Bertie has now developed ringworm on his ear. He is seeing our vet tomorrow, all five piggies will be having full intrafungal treatment. I've read and reread the ringworm thread several times. I've got F10 and have ordered more in case we run out, plus F10 gel and handcream for me! I've got his treatment record from the last owner. I don't think he was treated for long enough but will see what our vet says tomorrow. Just reopening this thread in case I need it and so anyone else finding it can see the best laid plans don't always work! Even if he'd had a full 14 day quarantine when he came here it wouldn't have been enough, symptoms showed on day 16. :hb:

It can just be down to not having had a bath at the end of treatment and has carried a spore across. Ex-ringworm piggies are more prone to another outbreak. It was not such a surprise when Barri, who was a vet surrender ending up at TEAS due to advanced ringworm as the result of wrongly applied DIY treatment, had another outbreak some months after I adopted him. Thankfully, I got that under control straight away.

All the best! Ears can be a little bit more difficult to get on top of since ringworm sits at the roots of hairs and usually comes out when they come out but where there is no hair, it is trickier to get at it.

PS: For any others reading this thread, here is the link to our detailed how to ringworm care and hygiene guide: Ringworm: Hygiene, Care And Pictures
 
Bertie has seen the vet this afternoon, a different one than the one consulted by phone via the receptionist on Saturday, so the course of action is not as I thought at the moment. This vet was not sure it is Ringworm especially as he has already had a good course of Intrafungal. He has had a skin scrape taken, she didn't want to prescribe anything orally until the results are back so we have Canesten cream and Metacam for 2 weeks. I am to observe the others and get in touch with her if they show any signs of fungus but at the moment I am to just keep up the cleaning regime.
 
Bertie has seen the vet this afternoon, a different one than the one consulted by phone via the receptionist on Saturday, so the course of action is not as I thought at the moment. This vet was not sure it is Ringworm especially as he has already had a good course of Intrafungal. He has had a skin scrape taken, she didn't want to prescribe anything orally until the results are back so we have Canesten cream and Metacam for 2 weeks. I am to observe the others and get in touch with her if they show any signs of fungus but at the moment I am to just keep up the cleaning regime.

All the best. There are other (less infectious, aggressive and not species jumping) forms of fungal skin infection but ringworm is the only one that is lab tested for.
 
Bertie's ear is looking good, it didn't scab up at all so I assume the cream is working. He is settling in well despite all the upheaval and the administrations of the wicked woman. I wish we could make them understand the weird things we do to them are to make them better. He's not keen on baths but I tell him we've got to get rid of this fungus whatever it is, we can't have this dragging on for months. Another week and we should get the skin scrape results. He's away from the other's but in the same room and can see them, the vet said as long as they can't touch it would be alright. Red taught him early on to bite the bars so he's doing that a lot to get Red's attention. He knows his name and when I say Bertie stop it he runs and gets under the step stool hidey. Trouble is it's a token hide and he' straight back biting the bars again! Bertie's got a very knowing character already, I suspect he is going to be one of the 'special' ones.

As we aren't having the new kitchen now we've done a bit of a house rearrangement. The fruit bowl has moved from the kitchen into the living room where the piggies are. Freddie and Timmy have worked it out, if my partner goes anywhere near the sideboard the demand a piece of apple. The first time he gave in but I've told him they can only have a piece once a month and he has to ignore them, their little faces! I've been told I have to move the fruit bowl out of the living room, he can't bear to see the disappointment on those little faces. As for playing Scrabble in the evening, they are now counting the tiles as we put them down, the fuss starts 4 or 5 goes from the end. They know veggie time is coming we don't even have to say I'm out, who won or I won anymore! Guinea pigs are such intelligent little creatures where food is concerned.
 
Bertie's ear is looking good, it didn't scab up at all so I assume the cream is working. He is settling in well despite all the upheaval and the administrations of the wicked woman. I wish we could make them understand the weird things we do to them are to make them better. He's not keen on baths but I tell him we've got to get rid of this fungus whatever it is, we can't have this dragging on for months. Another week and we should get the skin scrape results. He's away from the other's but in the same room and can see them, the vet said as long as they can't touch it would be alright. Red taught him early on to bite the bars so he's doing that a lot to get Red's attention. He knows his name and when I say Bertie stop it he runs and gets under the step stool hidey. Trouble is it's a token hide and he' straight back biting the bars again! Bertie's got a very knowing character already, I suspect he is going to be one of the 'special' ones.

As we aren't having the new kitchen now we've done a bit of a house rearrangement. The fruit bowl has moved from the kitchen into the living room where the piggies are. Freddie and Timmy have worked it out, if my partner goes anywhere near the sideboard the demand a piece of apple. The first time he gave in but I've told him they can only have a piece once a month and he has to ignore them, their little faces! I've been told I have to move the fruit bowl out of the living room, he can't bear to see the disappointment on those little faces. As for playing Scrabble in the evening, they are now counting the tiles as we put them down, the fuss starts 4 or 5 goes from the end. They know veggie time is coming we don't even have to say I'm out, who won or I won anymore! Guinea pigs are such intelligent little creatures where food is concerned.
They are as bright as buttons when it comes to food 😆

So glad the ear is looking better, not long now Bertie then you and Red can chew the bars in harmony!
 
The skin scrape didn't grow anything and there was no sign of mites. The ear has healed nicely. All treatment has stopped. I am keeping an eye on the skin on the ear, hopefully the skin will stay clear and the hair will grow back and that's the end of whatever it was.
 
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