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Hello.

I’m having some trouble reintroducing my Guineas, even after reading the introducing/reintroducing Guineas thread.

One of them is named Po; he’s about a year and a half.
The second one is named Bagheera. He is also about a year and a half.

So about two weeks ago, Bagheera was showing signs of Ringworm. Took him to the vet about a week and a half ago.

Vet insisted I separated him and Po, as Po showed no signs of catching it, so I did as told.


Bagheera has healed up; there’s no signs of Ringworm anymore, and I wanted to reintroduce them just for a minute to make sure they would still be used to each other when it comes time to put them together once more.

I’ve been allowing them to still smell each other through their cage bars and they seemed pretty friendly with each other still so I wasn’t too afraid of reintroducing them.

Took them out of their cages, placed them on a bunch of puppy pads, tossed a large sum of hay in the middle. Placed them on either side of the hay pile so they could find each other on their own.

The first few minutes; maybe three to four, seemed to go well; they were interested in the hay, even snacking on the hay side by side together. At one point, they even stopped eating hay and just sat next to one another, sniffing.
Then Po starts getting into Bagheera’s face to sniff him and such; nothing harmful and although Bagheera was getting a little agitated, he was very friendly about it and didn’t fight with him.

Then the humping started at about the fifth to sixth minute.
Po would not leave Bagheera alone, humping him at all times.

Teeth started chattering and then they both stood on their back legs in each other’s face, biting at each other and sensing an impending fight (from what it looked like), I decided to separate them immediately.

Admittedly, the humping got so bad to the point Bagheera started aggressively chattering his teeth and getting dangerously close to Po’s eye and ears with his mouth, so I somewhat panicked and reached in and separated them for a few seconds with my hand (which I’m aware you’re not supposed to do in case an actual fight does break out and they start attacking you instead). I’m wondering if that’s where I messed up though or if the fight was going to happen anyway?

Now I’m not so sure what to do or if there’s even any hope for them?

Do I try again later? Do I just keep them separated but side by side?

I’m not quite sure.

They have never gotten along the best admittedly, but their relationship was never bad enough for an actual fight to almost break out. They’ve had their fair share of nipping and such, but their relationship was never bad enough for this…and prior to being separated they had never humped each other once, and I’ve had them since they were about seven months old.

Now I’m wishing I didn’t listen to the vet and separate them to begin with.

(White Guinea is Bagheera and the brown/black/white one is Po.)
 

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Hello.

I’m having some trouble reintroducing my Guineas, even after reading the introducing/reintroducing Guineas thread.

One of them is named Po; he’s about a year and a half.
The second one is named Bagheera. He is also about a year and a half.

So about two weeks ago, Bagheera was showing signs of Ringworm. Took him to the vet about a week and a half ago.

Vet insisted I separated him and Po, as Po showed no signs of catching it, so I did as told.


Bagheera has healed up; there’s no signs of Ringworm anymore, and I wanted to reintroduce them just for a minute to make sure they would still be used to each other when it comes time to put them together once more.

I’ve been allowing them to still smell each other through their cage bars and they seemed pretty friendly with each other still so I wasn’t too afraid of reintroducing them.

Took them out of their cages, placed them on a bunch of puppy pads, tossed a large sum of hay in the middle. Placed them on either side of the hay pile so they could find each other on their own.

The first few minutes; maybe three to four, seemed to go well; they were interested in the hay, even snacking on the hay side by side together. At one point, they even stopped eating hay and just sat next to one another, sniffing.
Then Po starts getting into Bagheera’s face to sniff him and such; nothing harmful and although Bagheera was getting a little agitated, he was very friendly about it and didn’t fight with him.

Then the humping started at about the fifth to sixth minute.
Po would not leave Bagheera alone, humping him at all times.

Teeth started chattering and then they both stood on their back legs in each other’s face, biting at each other and sensing an impending fight (from what it looked like), I decided to separate them immediately.

Admittedly, the humping got so bad to the point Bagheera started aggressively chattering his teeth and getting dangerously close to Po’s eye and ears with his mouth, so I somewhat panicked and reached in and separated them for a few seconds with my hand (which I’m aware you’re not supposed to do in case an actual fight does break out and they start attacking you instead). I’m wondering if that’s where I messed up though or if the fight was going to happen anyway?

Now I’m not so sure what to do or if there’s even any hope for them?

Do I try again later? Do I just keep them separated but side by side?

I’m not quite sure.

They have never gotten along the best admittedly, but their relationship was never bad enough for an actual fight to almost break out. They’ve had their fair share of nipping and such, but their relationship was never bad enough for this…and prior to being separated they had never humped each other once, and I’ve had them since they were about seven months old.

Now I’m wishing I didn’t listen to the vet and separate them to begin with.

(White Guinea is Bagheera and the brown/black/white one is Po.)

Hi and welcome

I am very sorry but it sounds like they are happier as next door buddies with each their own territory but interaction through the bars. We call these bonds (and they are still bonds) 'can't live together and can't live apart' pairs.
The re-intro has unfortunately triggered a new hierarchy sort-out with the under-boar not happy to go back. It does however sound like neither of them is aggressive by nature and that it was more of a tussle than a real fight. However, it was definitely not going in the right direction and you have done the right thing.

Think of it as an amicable divorce and please don't feel bad; you couldn't have known that a medical separation in guinea pigs is one of the biggest causes for fall-outs in adult piggies. If you can keep the boys with a divider where they can still be buddies across and keep on interacting, they may actually be happier than before, having each their own space but company through the bars.

We have got quite a number of these kind of boar pairs on this forum. They can still grieve quite a bit and struggle after the loss of their mate.

PS: All the best for the ringworm staying put!
 
I agree with wiebke. They are happier apart now.

I also have a fallen out pair who live as neighbours (although I have since managed to bond one of them with one of my other single boars whose cagemate passed away)
 
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