justnobody
New Born Pup
Hello,
I'm newbie owner of two guinea pigs and also new member of this forum.
On begging sorry for my grammar etc but i dont use english often and you know...
I've read some of the pinned posts here about bonding, domination, bullying etc. But still i want to ask for your oppinion so...
I have adopted two pigies from previous owner who had to give them back. I was searching for pair of piggies because i wanted to give them good life and stuff.
Piggies are brothers from one litter. They are in same age, but have totally different characters.
They were bonded on begging but they failed after a while. Previous owner kept them in one cage splited with grid wall for like a year or so - i dont know exact time.
They werent properly rebonded after that time. They were always next to each other etc.
After i got them in their new home i have also splited them in two cages (one above the other). I wanted them to get to know with the smell and noises in my house so they can adapt to that.
Few days later i tried take them out for a neutral ground. They were very aggressive against each other.
I dont know exact names of piggies sounds in english but there were for sure teeth chattering, sniffing their back, squeeking in stressed way, jumping next to each other like they were getting ready to a fight. I took them back to cages. I was scared at first - didnt know that will go that way.
Next two days i gave them time to calm down. After that, i have made some research and tried to bond them on neutral ground - gave them space, fresh bedding, no hiddies, no food at first (i gave them little of hay on the middle after a while). That seemed to worked fine. They at first did same things as before - squeeking, teeth chattering, they were just aggressive. They got tired after a while and got to sleep - in other corners of that run. They got food and started to eat next to each other. I thought it was good sign. They even lay down next to each other. Then heart attack - One piggie was turned away from the other, who sniffed his back and the first didnt liked that. It turned out to a fight - they were something like one big fluffy ball. Jumping, scratching and trying to bite themselfs - i didnt noticed if they did that, or if they hurted themselfes, but it didnt looked good. I separated them and checked if everything is fine. One piggie after that was still loudly chattering his teeth and the other was squeking like he was scared.
That bonding attempt lasted for about 6 hours. I gave up after that.
It looked kinda like that example that i found out on that forum.
Facebook Watch
They were most of the time looking like in 2:55 - 3:01
And it ended up like the ending of that video. Then i reacted.
My question is - is this still possible to re-bond them? Should i try something more or is it better not to stress them again and just separate them? I dont want them to get hurt when they will be in a one cage. But also i dont want to separate them from eachother. I can keep them next to each other or in different cages, but i dont want to give away any of them...
I'm newbie owner of two guinea pigs and also new member of this forum.
On begging sorry for my grammar etc but i dont use english often and you know...
I've read some of the pinned posts here about bonding, domination, bullying etc. But still i want to ask for your oppinion so...
I have adopted two pigies from previous owner who had to give them back. I was searching for pair of piggies because i wanted to give them good life and stuff.
Piggies are brothers from one litter. They are in same age, but have totally different characters.
They were bonded on begging but they failed after a while. Previous owner kept them in one cage splited with grid wall for like a year or so - i dont know exact time.
They werent properly rebonded after that time. They were always next to each other etc.
After i got them in their new home i have also splited them in two cages (one above the other). I wanted them to get to know with the smell and noises in my house so they can adapt to that.
Few days later i tried take them out for a neutral ground. They were very aggressive against each other.
I dont know exact names of piggies sounds in english but there were for sure teeth chattering, sniffing their back, squeeking in stressed way, jumping next to each other like they were getting ready to a fight. I took them back to cages. I was scared at first - didnt know that will go that way.
Next two days i gave them time to calm down. After that, i have made some research and tried to bond them on neutral ground - gave them space, fresh bedding, no hiddies, no food at first (i gave them little of hay on the middle after a while). That seemed to worked fine. They at first did same things as before - squeeking, teeth chattering, they were just aggressive. They got tired after a while and got to sleep - in other corners of that run. They got food and started to eat next to each other. I thought it was good sign. They even lay down next to each other. Then heart attack - One piggie was turned away from the other, who sniffed his back and the first didnt liked that. It turned out to a fight - they were something like one big fluffy ball. Jumping, scratching and trying to bite themselfs - i didnt noticed if they did that, or if they hurted themselfes, but it didnt looked good. I separated them and checked if everything is fine. One piggie after that was still loudly chattering his teeth and the other was squeking like he was scared.
That bonding attempt lasted for about 6 hours. I gave up after that.
It looked kinda like that example that i found out on that forum.
Facebook Watch
They were most of the time looking like in 2:55 - 3:01
And it ended up like the ending of that video. Then i reacted.
My question is - is this still possible to re-bond them? Should i try something more or is it better not to stress them again and just separate them? I dont want them to get hurt when they will be in a one cage. But also i dont want to separate them from eachother. I can keep them next to each other or in different cages, but i dont want to give away any of them...
