Poop check pls

[furmom.pau]

My piggy has been on antibiotics for 8 days now and her poops are being weird ever since. We've been feeding her probiotics and syringe feeding hay and pellets to her. No veggies. At first she was always hiding, maybe because of the antibiotic side effects but now she's coming outside and walking around sniffing my other piggy's butt for poops. Saw her eating her "normal poos" earlier as well but she leaves these. The doc prescribed it for 10 days (0.15mL x 2) and now we're on the 9th day she isn't eating well again and refuses my syringe feeding. I gave her some veggies she ate some but appetite is way less

 

[Piggies&buns]

What is actually wrong with your piggy (the reason why she needed antibiotics)?
What antibiotic were you given?
What probiotic are you giving? Antibiotics can cause an upset tummy which is why you give probiotics but eating another piggy’s poops does the same thing as giving a probiotic. The other piggy’s poops contain what your poorly piggy is looking for to help her gut settle and make her feel better. What you can do is make ‘poop soup’ with your healthy pigs poops by soaking a few poops in water and the syringe feeding the water to your poorly piggy.
Have you been weighing her daily while she has been unwell? Weighing daily is the only way to know you are getting enough syringe feeding into a piggy.
are the poops in the picture from your poorly piggy or your healthy piggy? Either way, they look a good consistency and look to be healthy poops.
if your poorly piggy is doing small poops then its likely she isn’t eating quite enough but this is where weighing her is important . If she has been losing weight then you know she isn’t eating enough.

Not Eating, Weight Loss And The Importance Of Syringe Feeding Fibre
Complete Syringe Feeding Guide
Weight - Monitoring and Management

 

[furmom.pau]

What is actually wrong with your piggy (the reason why she needed antibiotics)?
What antibiotic were you given?
What probiotic are you giving? Antibiotics can cause an upset tummy which is why you give probiotics but eating another piggy’s poops does the same thing as giving a probiotic. The other piggy’s poops contain what your poorly piggy is looking for to help her gut settle and make her feel better. What you can do is make ‘poop soup’ with your healthy pigs poops by soaking a few poops in water and the syringe feeding the water to your poorly piggy.
Have you been weighing her daily while she has been unwell? Weighing daily is the only way to know you are getting enough syringe feeding into a piggy.
are the poops in the picture from your poorly piggy or your healthy piggy? Either way, they look a good consistency and look to be healthy poops.
if your poorly piggy is doing small poops then its likely she isn’t eating quite enough but this is where weighing her is important . If she has been losing weight then you know she isn’t eating enough.

Not Eating, Weight Loss And The Importance Of Syringe Feeding Fibre
Complete Syringe Feeding Guide
Weight - Monitoring and Management

Both of my piggy sows have URI and been sneezing so had to take them to the vet and was put on baytril for 10 days. Ive given them Bene-bac probiotic gel and weighing them everyday. There seems to be a bit of fluctuation as sometimes they go up a bit grams and the next day it goes a little down. My other piggy (snow) seems to handle the medication better and poppy on the other hand has a more sensitive stomach it's harder to syringe feed her to because she refuses but I'm still trying my bets i hope they won't give up on me as i love them both so much

 

[Piggies&buns]

Both of my piggy sows have URI and been sneezing so had to take them to the vet and was put on baytril for 10 days. Ive given them Bene-bac probiotic gel and weighing them everyday. There seems to be a bit of fluctuation as sometimes they go up a bit grams and the next day it goes a little down. My other piggy (snow) seems to handle the medication better and poppy on the other hand has a more sensitive stomach it's harder to syringe feed her to because she refuses but I'm still trying my bets i hope they won't give up on me as i love them both so much

ok. Antibiotics can be hard on the tummy - you are doing everything we can advise you to do though with giving benebac, weighing and syringe feeding. It’s so important you get enough syringe feed of a recovery formula or mushed up pellets into your piggies though if they are not eating enough hay for themselves. The guides will help. If you are worried about the piggy you can’t feed, then you will need to speak to the vet again.
As both your piggies are ill, then you can’t use poop soup.

 

[furmom.pau]

ok. Antibiotics can be hard on the tummy - you are doing everything we can advise you to do though with giving benebac, weighing and syringe feeding. It’s so important you get enough syringe feed of a recovery formula or mushed up pellets into your piggies though if they are not eating enough hay for themselves. The guides will help. If you are worried about the piggy you can’t feed, then you will need to speak to the vet again.
As both your piggies are ill, then you can’t use poop soup.

Is it ok that they've both eating each others poops even though they're sick? I always see them poop and they eat all the poos together. A lot of times they're sniffing each others bums looking and waiting for poops it seems

 

[Piggies&buns]

Is it ok that they've both eating each others poops even though they're sick? I always see them poop and they eat all the poos together. A lot of times they're sniffing each others bums looking and waiting for poops it seems

it’s a normal thing for them to do, youre not going to be able to stop them from doing it. It just means that neither of them will get the good bacteria to help settle their own tummies given both of them are unwell

 

[furmom.pau]

I really hope they recover. We got 2 more administrations left and we're done. Thank you

 

[Piggies&buns]

If they aren’t better after the prescribed course, then they will need to go back to the vet. It can be that either the course of treatment wasn’t long enough or that baytril isn’t the right antibiotic to cure the infection and a course of a different antibiotic needs to be tried

 

[furmom.pau]

If they aren’t better after the prescribed course, then they will need to go back to the vet. It can be that either the course of treatment wasn’t long enough or that baytril isn’t the right antibiotic to cure the infection and a course of a different antibiotic needs to be tried

The vets here in our country does not seem to have good backgrounds on guinea pig care which saddens us owners they prescribe without even doing lab tests. Sigh

 

[furmom.pau]

Poppy has been on baytril for the last 2 weeks and it was just over 2 days ago. Her appetite is recovering slowly but I'm still hand feeding a lil bit and givinv probiotics. Some of her poops look like this tho, should i be worried?

 

[Siikibam]

Looks like her tum isn't quite back to normal yet. I would continue with the probiotic. How is her weight?

 

[Piggies&buns]

How often are you giving the Probiotics and how much are you syringe feeding? Is she maintaining her weight when you weigh her each day?
Don’t give any veg while poops remain looking like this.
it can take time for their tummies to settle after medication.

 

[furmom.pau]

Looks like her tum isn't quite back to normal yet. I would continue with the probiotic. How is her weight?

It's been fluctuating. Same as my other piggy who's been on baytril the same course of time as her but the other piggy is recovering much faster and has way normal poos and appetite is very good.

 

[Piggies&buns]

The fluctuations look to be within the normal range.

how often are you giving probiotic?
how often are you syringe feeding and is She eating hay for herself? As I say, don’t give any veg to her until things improve

 

[furmom.pau]

How often are you giving the Probiotics and how much are you syringe feeding? Is she maintaining her weight when you weigh her each day?
Don’t give any veg while poops remain looking like this.
it can take time for their tummies to settle after medication.

I've been giving probiotics benebac once a day. I'm just syringe feeding her every now and then at no fixed time (unlike when she was still on baytril) as i thought of it as maintenance until she recovers completely. My bad i gave them veggies for the past few days tho

This is her weight

 

[furmom.pau]

The fluctuations look to be within the normal range.

how often are you giving probiotic?
how often are you syringe feeding and is She eating hay for herself? As I say, don’t give any veg to her until things improve

She's eating hay but not really as much as before unlike my other piggy who's been nonstop chewing on hay. She's more focused on eating poos than hay. She loses interest in hay or food a little fast eats quite but not enough

 

[Piggies&buns]

She's eating hay but not really as much as before unlike my other piggy who's been nonstop chewing on hay. She's more focused on eating poos than hay. She loses interest in hay or food a little fast eats quite but not enough

she will want to eat poops as she knows it’ll help her. Now your other piggy is off meds and her gut is normalising, eating the poops will give your poorly piggy some good bacteria.

It’s good she is eating some hay but if she isn’t eating enough then you will need to continue offering top up syringe feeds a few times a day until her weight stabilises (allowing for normal fluctuations).

 

[furmom.pau]

she will want to eat poops as she knows it’ll help her. Now your other piggy is off meds and her gut is normalising, eating the poops will give your poorly piggy some good bacteria.

It’s good she is eating some hay but if she isn’t eating enough then you will need to continue offering top up syringe feeds a few times a day until her weight stabilises (allowing for normal fluctuations).

This is her earlier

 

[furmom.pau]

Should i be worried? She was on AB (baytril) but it's over now and seems like she's recovering eating hay and pooping a lot (poop is still kind of tear shaped) though her daily weight makes me anxious. Help

 

[Piggies&buns]

Should i be worried? She was on AB (baytril) but it's over now and seems like she's recovering eating hay and pooping a lot (poop is still kind of tear shaped) though her daily weight makes me anxious. Help View attachment 155428

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Continue to syringe feed her to try to get her weight to stabilise. I know yesterday you said you are feeding her ’every now and then‘. Try to feed her regularly, every few hours as she perhaps isn’t eating as much hay as she needs, so she may need more regular syringe feeding until she feels better. You are looking to get at least 40mls (preferably 60mls) of syringe feed into her in a 24 hour period - this can mean feeding small amounts (they don’t always take a lot per syringe feed) but feeding throughout the day.

please read the green links to guides which I have added previously

i will also add our weight management guide in below for further information on weight fluctuations and when it is more concerning than just a normal fluctuation

Weight - Monitoring and Management

 

[furmom.pau]

Thanks for informing sorry about the thread I'm still a newbie momma

I'm having a hard time syringe feeding her now because she just refuses and whines at me all the time. She probably hates me for picking her up every now and then. I cant get a mil in her mouth anymore unlike the other days i dont know what to do it's stressing me out as well

 

[furmom.pau]

Should i give her veggies now to amp up her gut?

 

[Piggies&buns]

Should i give her veggies now to amp up her gut?

Thanks for informing sorry about the thread I'm still a newbie momma

I'm having a hard time syringe feeding her now because she just refuses and whines at me all the time. She probably hates me for picking her up every now and then. I cant get a mil in her mouth anymore unlike the other days i dont know what to do it's stressing me out as well

Giving her veggies too soon after/during a gut disturbance (you say her poop is not quite normal yet) will likely cause her gut to get worse and return to soft poops. When you can return to giving veg, it is best to give herbs such as coriander first as they tend to be milder on the tummy. If you do this, and if you notice her poops going too soft, you will have to stop giving them and go back to just hay. It’s hay she needs to gain weight though, veg only makes up 15% of the daily food intake so it wouldn’t make much difference to her weight

you are going to need to be firm in Syringe feeding her. She has had 6 days of a continual weight loss, and while the amount isn’t huge yet, it’s the fact that there is a continual decline which means she is probably not eating enough hay, so you will need to continue syringe feeding her until she feels better

 

[furmom.pau]

Tapered at the end, formed but kind of wet (like it can be mushed but its formed not diarrhea) kind of poops?

 

[furmom.pau]

Do we have similar cases wherein recovery for AB is quite longer than expected? (poops aren't still normal after 4 days of stopping AB)

 

[DougalandDiego]

Have you tried wrapping her in a tea towel? I have been doing that with one of my pigs who needs syringe feeding at the moment then letting them sit on your chest so their head is closer to see what you’re doing.
There are quite a few videos on YouTube that helped me. I’ve got a very stubborn boy who wouldn’t stay still just stood there when holding his mouth!

 

[furmom.pau]

Have you tried wrapping her in a tea towel? I have been doing that with one of my pigs who needs syringe feeding at the moment then letting them sit on your chest so their head is closer to see what you’re doing.
There are quite a few videos on YouTube that helped me. I’ve got a very stubborn boy who wouldn’t stay still just stood there when holding his mouth!

I've been exhausting a lot of methods for the past weeks whatever works at the moment honestly. Ill try that one with the chest sounds like a good plan, yea my girl is stubborn as well but it must be done. We've been covering 5-6 cc of syringe feeding every 2 hours it looks like a long way to go. Poor pig she's been whining nonstop and it breaks my heart aye

 

[DougalandDiego]

Yes it’s so hard syringe feeding a piggy that doesn’t want it so completely understand. When he’s really wriggly ive been holding him and syringe and my partner has been holding his mouth which has been so much quicker. Have you got someone that could help?

 

[furmom.pau]

My other piggy (snow - the more energetic one though she also had the same AB course as poppy) is pooping like this now. It was getting better a couple of days ago but this happened. She's eating A LOT of hay as you can see in the backround she's currently munching on some and always drinking water. She's always having zoomies around the enclosure as well so i dont see anything wrong.

1) is she dehydrated? But she always drinks a lot of water as i can see their water bowls

2) should i give her veggies separated from my other sow?

 

[furmom.pau]

Unfortunately i have no one with me so it's really hard

Yes it’s so hard syringe feeding a piggy that doesn’t want it so completely understand. When he’s really wriggly ive been holding him and syringe and my partner has been holding his mouth which has been so much quicker. Have you got someone that could help?