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Pig diagnosed with elongated tooth root

MirabelMaud

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Hi my Mo is 4 years old and up til last saturday fit ans well. I noticed she came running out when the veggies arrived but couldnt seem to pick them up. I also found some small 'mouse poos' which fitted with her not eating. I started critical care immediately but could not get an appt with exotics vet for 11 days. By day 5 her breathing was crackly and she was listless so took her to local vet. He looked in her mouth with otoscope and saif tongue was moving freely, front teeth fine but could not see back teeth. Advised to get xrays and start her on metacam immediately which I did. I fed 12ml Critical Care every 3 hours (including through the night) but each day she got steadily worse. On day 11 she was admitted to BlackWater Valley Vets in Camberley to see Ivan Krotaz who operated on one of my piggies last October and got her through a spay (she had huge cysts the size of human fists which were rupturing) He did a thorough exam and she had a pain response when he felt the left side of her jaw. He sedated her heavily and took mutiple xrays. He found an elongated tooth root on left lower jaw. Her lungs were inflamed which he guessed was her aspirating some of the syringe feed and a huge gas bubble in her stomach which he said was caused by syringe feeding. He upped her dose of metacam to 0.35ml twice daily as well as Calpol (infant) 1.3ml up to 3 times a day to try to get the pain under control. He also started her on Baytril for her chest 0.5ml twice a day. Her back teeth looked normal on the xray and there was no sign of abscess or blockage of any kind. He said to cut back on the syringe feeding and just give 3mls little and often as he disagrees with pushing large quantities as their stomach is so small and it has caused this build up of gas in her tummy as she is struggling against the syringe and swallowing air. He thinks the jaw bone will heal around the tooth root in time and that with good pain management (which might be long term) she will be able to eat again. Well we are now on day 13 and she is losing vitality every day. She is listless. She will not eat anything. I have to force the critical care in in tiny sips. She sits wherever I place her in her fleecy bed and when I check her 3 hours later she has not moved. I am worried about feeding her less and I am not seeing any poos (she lives with two others one elderly pig of 7 and her sister ) He advised I also use Emeraid Critical Care Herbivore as well as Critical Care but it wont arrive til next wednesday and I cannot find any for sale locally. Yesterday if I 'posted' a blade of grass between her front teeth she would start chewing but it was very slow almost like her conveyor belt is broken and the food is not moving backwards. Also her chewing sounds are louder than usual a grinding noise. Today I cannot get anytghing into her mouth and she does not want the syringe either but I am persisting. With the amount of pain releif she is on I think she would be eating if she could...I am out of ideas and already seeing a cavy savvy vet...does anyone have any ideas?
 
I’m so sorry you and Mo are going through this. It’s so stressful when you are trying everything and not seeing any improvement. I syringe fed my piggy for over 6 weeks and had to get in over 80mls of critical care a day to stop weight loss. Is Mo losing weight? I would get them back to the vet if she’s not moving or pooping and you’ve seen a deterioration in her. I personally think 3mls every couple of hours isn’t really enough (hence no poops). I really hope she’s soon on the mend. 🤞🏻
 
I’m sorry to hear this
Have you switched from the routine weekly weight checks and are instead weighing her daily? That is the only way to know whether enough food is going into her.

I would also speak to the vet if she is worse today
 
I’m so sorry you and Mo are going through this. It’s so stressful when you are trying everything and not seeing any improvement. I syringe fed my piggy for over 6 weeks and had to get in over 80mls of critical care a day to stop weight loss. Is Mo losing weight? I would get them back to the vet if she’s not moving or pooping and you’ve seen a deterioration in her. I personally think 3mls every couple of hours isn’t really enough (hence no poops). I really hope she’s soon on the mend. 🤞🏻
Yes she has dropped from 1.2kg seven days ago to 1.10kg yesterday. I have always pushed the syringe feeding I was giving 12ml every three hours for 11 days and she still lost weight. He is concerned about her aspirating the food because of her in inflamed lungs and she is gulping in so much air. Taking her back to vet now. If there is hope I will put the work in but my instincts say she is shutting down
 
I’m sorry to hear this
Have you switched from the routine weekly weight checks and are instead weighing her daily? That is the only way to know whether enough food is going into her.

I would also speak to the vet if she is worse today
Yes been weighing daily and dropping every day. Getting in the car now it's 40 mins away ....I don't want her to die in the car
 
Yes she has dropped from 1.2kg seven days ago to 1.10kg yesterday. I have always pushed the syringe feeding I was giving 12ml every three hours for 11 days and she still lost weight. He is concerned about her aspirating the food because of her in inflamed lungs and she is gulping in so much air. Taking her back to vet now. If there is hope I will put the work in but my instincts say she is shutting down

Good luck. Sending healing vibes to Mo and a hug to you.
 
So sorry for you and your little piggie. Can you travel and see Simon or Kim Maddock at the Cat and Rabbit Clinic in Northampton they are the most experienced guinea pig vets in the Uk when it comes to dental issues. Owners travel from all over the country (I used to travel from Cornwall they are amazing. There dental procedures are mostly done conscious so the piggie is awake and they use tiny files to remove any spurs. They will give you a full assessment and do any work needed ther and then. No nasty GA after effects either so is cheaper too

You need to be ideally getting at least 40 ml plus of CC into her daily And hand feed her tiny sticks of veggies if she will take them. Weigh her daily, if her weight is still going down then up the intake if you can

CAT AND RABBIT CARE CLINIC | Northlands Vets
 
I am thinking of you and sweet Mo.
You have done everything you could to help and support her.
 
So sorry for you and your little piggie. Can you travel and see Simon or Kim Maddock at the Cat and Rabbit Clinic in Northampton they are the most experienced guinea pig vets in the Uk when it comes to dental issues. Owners travel from all over the country (I used to travel from Cornwall they are amazing. There dental procedures are mostly done conscious so the piggie is awake and they use tiny files to remove any spurs. They will give you a full assessment and do any work needed ther and then. No nasty GA after effects either so is cheaper too

You need to be ideally getting at least 40 ml plus of CC into her daily And hand feed her tiny sticks of veggies if she will take them. Weigh her daily, if her weight is still going down then up the intake if you can

CAT AND RABBIT CARE CLINIC | Northlands Vets
I had a look at the practice and it would be a to hour drive each way..the way she is today I doubt she would survive the journey. Took her back to the vet this morning he said her tummy is soft and she has good gut sounds (better than Tuesday) but she did not produce a single poop in the two hours we were in the car today. He said her chest is worse and her breathing is noisy and fast. he said they could admit her and give fluids and push the syringe feeding but he thinks I am doing everything right and that she would probably be happier at home. He said to up the syringe feeding, both quantity and frequency as she is not eating anything, but when I fed her when I got home from vets it is just sitting in her mouth. She is not chewing or swallowing. He said there is a slim chance that she will recover from this though it does not look good. the et that took the xrays and identified an elongated tooth root said that this might calm down with enough time and pain relief...does anyone have a pig with his problem who has recovered without aqnything being done to the tooth? Is there anything that CAN be done for an elongated tooth root?
 
So sorry for you and your little piggie. Can you travel and see Simon or Kim Maddock at the Cat and Rabbit Clinic in Northampton they are the most experienced guinea pig vets in the Uk when it comes to dental issues. Owners travel from all over the country (I used to travel from Cornwall they are amazing. There dental procedures are mostly done conscious so the piggie is awake and they use tiny files to remove any spurs. They will give you a full assessment and do any work needed ther and then. No nasty GA after effects either so is cheaper too

You need to be ideally getting at least 40 ml plus of CC into her daily And hand feed her tiny sticks of veggies if she will take them. Weigh her daily, if her weight is still going down then up the intake if you can

CAT AND RABBIT CARE CLINIC | Northlands Vets
I have contacted the cat and rabbit care clinic and requested her xrays and history are sent across they will then give me phone consult. I am grasping at straws now as I suspect as she is not swallowing she wont last the day
 
Bless her. If she is no longer swallowing then I’m afraid her body may be shutting down. I’m so sorry. 😢
 
I’m so sorry for your loss of your sweet Mo, you did everything you could to help her.
🌈 Sleep tight Mo 🌈
I had a phone consult with the specialists in Northampton...I had her records and x-rays sent across. They said that this problem would not go away, they could trim the crown of the tooth but within two weeks we would be back where we are today. Ten minutes after I spoke to them she died. She only showed signs of trouble eating 13 days ago and in that time she has seen three vets had G/A x-rays and pain relief / antibiotics. What I can't get passed is that my exotic vet said that the stomach and lung problems were likely caused by me force feeding her with critical care ( from day 5 of her illness she would not eat and refused syringe) and that the tooth root could have healed with time. Everything else I have read suggests that she was not going to miraculously recover unless she had some dental work. I now have two pigs left ( my three legged pig died 15.12.23 aged 7) Myrtle who is 7 with ovarian cysts and cataracts and Meredith who is only four and a half and underwent a hysterectomy for ovarian cysts in October 2022. I have had ten pigs over the last twenty years but I can't put myself through this many more times it is heart ( and bank ) breaking. When Myrtle goes I will have a solo pig who is only five....so I coul adopt a similar age pig to keep Meredith company....but then I am done. I can't imagine life without some pig people in. It but I can't bury many more pigs my heart is broken
 
I’m so sorry. You really did try everything. Don’t feel you have done anything wrong. You had to syringe feed her or else she would have passed earlier and you’d then be feeling upset that you’d not started syringe feeding. You gave her a chance. That’s all we can do. Popcorn high over the bridge Mo. Take care ❤️
 
I’m so sorry to hear she has passed.
I absolutely agree with weepweeps. Dental issues don’t right themselves and support syringe feeding was absolutely the right thing to do (we don’t call it force feeding because there should not be any forcing). You did everything you could.
Take care
 
I’m so sorry to hear she has passed.
I absolutely agree with weepweeps. Dental issues don’t right themselves and support syringe feeding was absolutely the right thing to do (we don’t call it force feeding because there should not be any forcing). You did everything you could.
Take care
Trouble was since Wednesday she would not take the syringe so I had to pop it behind her front teeth and push in Tony quantities which is why I say forced. Up until that point she was sucking it out like a starving woman. I had to wait 11 days to get an appointment with an exotics specialist ( and the nearest one is an hour away ) if I had been able to get her in for dental work sooner she might have made it. Now I must care for my remaining bereaved pair and today will have Mo's funeral.
 
Trouble was since Wednesday she would not take the syringe so I had to pop it behind her front teeth and push in Tony quantities which is why I say forced. Up until that point she was sucking it out like a starving woman. I had to wait 11 days to get an appointment with an exotics specialist ( and the nearest one is an hour away ) if I had been able to get her in for dental work sooner she might have made it. Now I must care for my remaining bereaved pair and today will have Mo's funeral.

You didn’t do anything wrong.
 
You have absolutely done nothing wrong! Please don't feel that way! If you hadn't syringe fed her she would have starved to death.
Many pigs don't want to take syringe feed. Squirting tiny amounts behind the front teeth is the way to do it.
Tooth root problems are difficult. My house rabbit has elongated roots in both her lower and upper jaw. The specialist vet trims any little spurs (which are rare now) but that's pretty much all they can do. She has also been on long term pain relief for years now (a toss up really as she only has one kidney now!)
They occasionally get infected and have started to block her tear ducts. But apart from treating the symptoms for her there is nothing the vet can do, there is no miracle cure.
The tooth root won't heal on its own I have no idea why the vet told you that.
Stay strong, you did everything right for your piggy.
RIP Mo, over the Rainbow Bridge 🌈❤️
 
I am so sorry you lost your little Mo, sending big hugs. I truly think dental problems are the very worst thing to treat x

Popcorn high little Mo 🌈
 
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