Our two girls (7yr and 6mo) hate each other; any hope?

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For some background, we had Girly (the older one) for a few months by herself when family gave her to us. We got her a companion, Autumn, two weeks ago. When Girly was by herself, she had a pet store cage for her home, food, and water with a door that led to a big open play area. When we brought Autumn into the mix, we closed the door to the play area and made that Autumn's space with her own house, food, water. Then we extended Girly's cage so that her space wasn't smaller and both had plenty of room to run around and play.

The first few days we kept them separate, and mixed their poop as we read somewhere it would help them get used to each other. They we popcorning, squeaking at each other, and seemed to be doing really well. We made a mistake, however when assuming it would be a good idea to open their doors after 2 days and within minutes they were teeth chattering. We didn't intervene as we thought it was normal behavior, but things escalated to the point where Girly ripped a piece of hair out from Autumn.

This last week they were separated by a divider and we made sure to give them both plenty of attention and water hoping that tensions would die down. They slowly started spending time next to each other by the divider and things seemed to be going really well. Today we thought it would be appropriate to try again but almost instantly got into a cartoonish fight, this time Autumn pulling hair from Girly.

I'm wondering if there's more we could be doing for them or if it's time to separate. If separating permanently is the right call, would having them in a divider close to each other cause distress?
 
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I’m sorry to hear this.

When introducing guinea pigs to each other it must be done on neutral territory. You have to put them both somewhere neither sees as their normal space. You cannot just open doors or remove dividers and allow each pig to wander into the other’s space. That is a pretty surefire way to cause a fight and issues as it is seen as a territory invasion which they will not take kindly to.
We also do not recommend swapping poops and scents between cages.
Scent swapping is something which is an online mis-advice really - rather than helping them get to know each other, it tends to do the opposite and have a bit of a negative effect on a bonding. The resident piggy smells another piggy in their space and then sees them as an intruder.

As they seem to have taken a dislike to each other now (for sows, pulling hair out of each other is the equivalent of a full on boar fight), then are going to need to remain separate permanently.
Their cages absolutely do need to be side by side so they can still interact between the bars for companionship and interaction.
Laying next to the divider is a territorial move in marking their space, not so much a sign that they want to be together.

The two guides below explain things further.
The second guide is our bonding guides and explains the process fully including what behaviours you do and don’t want to see during bonding

 
Thank you, we were actually just reading your guide and learned a lot! We are thinking of getting a new rescue (ours has a bonding program) so that Autumn isn't isolated during formative years. I'm wondering if this could be a bad idea, which could cause girly to feel even more isolated.
 
Thank you, we were actually just reading your guide and learned a lot! We are thinking of getting a new rescue (ours has a bonding program) so that Autumn isn't isolated during formative years. I'm wondering if this could be a bad idea, which could cause girly to feel even more isolated.

It’s a good idea to get a friend for autumn. It won’t matter to girly. They can all interact between the bars so it’s fine
 
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