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squeakysmallpaws

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Hi,

So I've moved in with the boyfriend who is allergic to a list of animals (we know exactly which animals because he had the tests done - e.g. we know he's not allergic to hamsters but is allergic to Rabbits - it was that specific). He's allergic to the hay with the guinea pigs. They've had to go outside and I hate it but my boyfriend and I have been together almost 5 years and I'm 33 years old, I need to progress with my life. He has severe allergies, he's been told to be away from the animals or risk long term permanent lung damage. They can't be inside, end of story.

My basic choices were this:
- rehome all my animals (I don't want to do that)
- find another boyfriend who doesn't have all these allergies (kinda love the current one so I don't want to do that!)
- try, try, try - work hard and keep trying to make it work - put the animals outside, spend the money that I have, try and balance it all out for the remainder of their lives.

So we spent the best part of £600 this summer getting the shed ready. The hutch itself is already as insulated as it can possibly get, i.e flooring, insulated walls - with enough space for some form of ventilation. We used stuff you would use for a house.

Currently the insulation seems to have been worth the money - at 11pm last night the temperature in the shed was still 18.9 degrees - just 1 degree lower than it was in my actual house!

The shed has been fully fitted to make it completely safe, so the guinea pigs can come and go during the day from the hutch into a run type area, so they have plenty of space to run around. At night (around 10pm, I lock them into the hutch - so they will naturally huddle together for heat). It's become a routine now, I feed them at this time of night so they happily hop back in (if they weren't already in the shed) and the eat their veggies, fresh hay pellets etc.

The shed is wired with a wireless thermometer that tells me from inside the house how warm it is in the hutch.

But I'm still worried, when I'm getting up in a morning I'm still seeing temperatures such as 13.9 degrees. I feel so completely disheartened.

I've had hot water bottles underneath the hutch, heat pads inside the hutch and the temperature is still dropping that low - in SEPTEMBER! Where am I going to be come mid-January!

I know it's been chilly this week but what chance have I got making it through winter with them if I can't keep the shed at a comfortable over night 16 degrees during september?

I'm really worried about them. I don't want them to be cold. It makes me feel so awful.

I don't have electricity in the shed. And the shed is a fair way from the house. Also I have to partially cross the next door neighbors garden to get to mine.

Am currently using:

- heat pads
- cosies
- igloo's
- water bottles underneath the hutch
- hutch has a thermal cover

How else can I generate heat that doesn't require an electrical source?

I could potentially run an extension window from the room at the back, across the neighbours garden and into my shed so I can switch a halogen heater on - but that's incredibly dangerous - electricity outside, trip hazard for people and I could get in serious trouble.

A gas heater I've been told no because the animals will die from carbon monoxide poisoning and all the gas heaters say - don't use in a shed!

Electrical generators are noisy and soooooo expensive and use petrol which again is a hazard.

I don't know what else I can do, but I just think of them outside cold and wondering why I'm not helping them and coming to get them. And the worse in January I'm going to be dealing with temperatures slipping down to 1 degree.

I don't know what to do anymore, I really don't.

Any ideas?
 
I think you current situation is workable. Your guinea pigs are dry and out of draughts. Although the temperature in the whole shed may drop, you are providing them with heat pads and cosies. Just make sure they gave plenty of hay to huddle together in.

I must admit , I have electricity in my shed and have some greenhouse heaters . It might be worth getting a quote from an electrican. You would 't need sockets etc - just a properly wired power source - rather than an extension running through your neighbours garden.
 
i agree with piggy owner.
My lot live in a hutch in garden (no shed space) and my dad has managed to fix hutch so its insulated and i have the heat pads and fleece cosies. Its started to get a lot cooler this week and they as yet haven't had their heat pads mainly because i know they will huddle in together, so their combined body heat will help - plus they have a fur coat - so when it gets drastically colder then lie start giving them heat pads and plenty of hay and a thick bedding
 
Definitely wired power source put in by an electrician. Then if you didn't like the halogen heaters you could instead use an electric plug in oil radiator which has a temp dial on it to maintain the right heat level. I have my piggies in the utility room, but there is no heat source in there, so have my oil radiator ready for them for the winter as needed.
 
Your hutch is warmer than my house! Following because our GP's are in a (non insulated) garage and I need all the tips I can get!
 
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My shed is in the hutches forum. I'm lucky in that my shed is reasonably close to the house, I've run a cable into the shed and have an oil filled radiator to warm the place up. The cat also has his bed in there next to the radiator and sleeps in there whilst the pigs and buns are in their hutches. :tu:
 
I've only built my shed recently and do not have any electricity installed in it.

For winter warmth I'm planning on putting bubble wrap over any areas I think will cause drafts (not everywhere though as I still need ventilation)

I use snuggle safe heat pads, boxes filled with hay, and fleece cosy items. The larger ones I tend to wrap a loose fleece inside too which they love to snuggle up in :)
 
this morning the temperature was 15 degrees, which is better. Now it's back up 20 degree's.

My 3 remaining pet rats are in the shed too. They are in the top section of the hutch. They have heaps and heaps of straw in their part. They love it! The build a little fort with it. In the side part - you know where a hutch has a wooden piece that makes like a hidey section? They have an igloo in there and underneath and all around is packed with straw. This morning I went in, opened it up and they were all snuggled up in there. I put my hand in and OMG it was toasty warm! I mean like it was seriously warm - I wanted to climb in with them! haha. It felt like that feeling you get when you climb into a bed that's had an electric blanket on!

I know straw is supposed to be a big no-no for pigs but I'm not sure I'm with that thinking anymore. I've had an eye poke from hay. The straw I bought for the rats is softer and more squidgy than the hay they have. It's just from pets at home, it's really cheap and it feels so soft. I think the quality of it must have genuinely improved, there wasn't a sharp bit but I squidged it in my hands first anyway before putting it in for the rats. And straw - is SUPER insulating. It has an incredibly high factor of thermal insulation. From all my reading around straw is literally one of the best forms of insulation you can use.

I think I'm reaching the conclusion here that I don't think the risks of using straw as an additional substrate significantly increases their risk of harm for it to be discarded as a measure of insulation. Essentially I'm more worried about them being cold and miserable over night than I am about them getting poked in their eye. The risk of them being cold is far greater than the risk of the poke.

Equally I will call an electrician and get a quote, see if there's anything that can be done. I just think having a heater in there sorts everything out, I'm just not sure it's doable given how my flat works in London :(

I'm really stressed out about this :(
 
Aw, don't be stressed - you're checking on them regularly and confirmed they're keeping warm.
 
I have made a straw sack for my GP's, a fleece pillow case stuffed with straw, and a house with a straw layer, a box filled with straw and then a shoe box inside and taped round the edges so the GP's can't get to the straw. So I am getting try heat retaining benefits of straw without the risks. Obviously the pillow case straw is changed every few nights :)
 
That's a really good idea. My Mum had an idea about using beans..... basically beans retain heat but we couldn't work out how to do it where the piggies couldn't gnaw through. She basically got the idea from a cooking thing. I'm not making sense - I'd need to get my Mum on here to explain! haha.
 
This is their set up at the moment. The green around the hutch is loft insulation. I also put wood around the inside of the shed to stop drafts and also because there was a half inch gap because of the floor, hard to explain! The hutch itself has also been completely insulated. I'm not worried about that though, I'm worried about how I generate heat in order for the insulation to keep it in. Right now the insulation is doing a banging job of warming the shed up and retaining much of that heat through the night, but the temperature is mild now and there's loads of sunshine. Come winter when outdoor temperatures are only peaking at 10-12 degree's the insulation doesn't have anything to work with. It can only retain generated heat.

The set up with the Shed is great it's just how on earth do I get electricity out there without going through my neighbors garden :(
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