My piggies drew blood, what do i do?

[Packit]

2 male piggies about 3 and 1 1/2. My family says that it's because I made them a new, larger cage, a 2x5 grid cage (i.e. picture attatched) and they used to have a 1x2. 2 males need at least a 2x4 and I have have in a 2x5. It's possible that it's because I made them a bigger cage, but should I have left them in that small cage? Would everything have been better?

They drew blood while doing an introduction, and I've separated them again. What do I do? Will they ever get along?

 

[Piggies&buns]

I’m sorry to hear of their fight

Do you mean you had them together in a 1x2 c&c? If so, then you absolutely did the right thing by trying to increase their cage size. It would not have been appropriate to leave them in a 1x2 c&c as it does not meet even the minimum welfare standards. The smallest cage two piggies should be kept in for welfare requirements is 8 square feet but two boars actually need 12 square feet. A 1x2 c&c only comes to 2 square feet
Even a single piggy need 8sq ft minimum so a 1x2 each would still not have been big enough for them even if they lived separately previously

You say they had a fight doing an introduction. So, have they not lived together in the same cage before?
Did you introduce them properly on neutral territory?

If they have not lived together before and you were trying to bond them on neutral territory, then the fight has occurred because they are not compatible. Two piggies who are not compatible will not be able to live together.

A 2x5 is the right size for two boars (a 2x4 is usually still even too small for two boars) to live in but changing the cage size of a pair who were already living together constitutes a change in environment and territories. Such a change can sometimes cause underlying issues to come to the surface and cause piggies to fall out. Any time a cage size is changed it’s advised to be careful and ensure that old bedding is used so that it still smells of them as that can sometimes help them feel more secure.
Equally, you have pigloo hides which only have one door in them. Those hides are not recommended as there is no way out if one piggy is inside it and the other traps them inside. All hides should always have two exits.

I’m afraid though that now a blood drawing fight has occurred it’s unlikely they will be able to share a cage again and will always need to be kept in a divided cage.

If they do need to be kept permanently apart, then you would need to extend the cage again as currently each piggy in a divided cage does not have enough space. The minimum size for a single piggy is a 2x3 cage each.

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[weepweeps]

I’m really sorry your boys have had a fight.

 

[Wheekallweek]

You've absolutely done the right thing by making them a bigger cage, even thought they're fighting right now

 

[Packit]

I’m sorry to hear of their fight

Do you mean you had them together in a 1x2 c&c? If so, then you absolutely did the right thing by trying to increase their cage size. It would not have been appropriate to leave them in a 1x2 c&c as it does not meet even the minimum welfare standards. The smallest cage two piggies should be kept in for welfare requirements is 8 square feet but two boars actually need 12 square feet. A 1x2 c&c only comes to 2 square feet
Even a single piggy need 8sq ft minimum so a 1x2 each would still not have been big enough for them even if they lived separately previously

You say they had a fight doing an introduction. So, have they not lived together in the same cage before?
Did you introduce them properly on neutral territory?

If they have not lived together before and you were trying to bond them on neutral territory, then the fight has occurred because they are not compatible. Two piggies who are not compatible will not be able to live together.

A 2x5 is the right size for two boars (a 2x4 is usually still even too small for two boars) to live in but changing the cage size of a pair who were already living together constitutes a change in environment and territories. Such a change can sometimes cause underlying issues to come to the surface and cause piggies to fall out. Any time a cage size is changed it’s advised to be careful and ensure that old bedding is used so that it still smells of them as that can sometimes help them feel more secure.
Equally, you have pigloo hides which only have one door in them. Those hides are not recommended as there is no way out if one piggy is inside it and the other traps them inside. All hides should always have two exits.

I’m afraid though that now a blood drawing fight has occurred it’s unlikely they will be able to share a cage again and will always need to be kept in a divided cage.

If they do need to be kept permanently apart, then you would need to extend the cage again as currently each piggy in a divided cage does not have enough space. The minimum size for a single piggy is a 2x3 cage each.

Boars: Teenage, Bullying, Fighting, Fall-outs And What Next?
Bonds In Trouble
A Comprehensive Guide to Guinea Pig Boars

Yes they were both living together before I made them a new cage. I know of this issue with the pigloos but I don't have the money currently to get them new ones I will asap. I was re introducing them because they had a fight before this one. I can most definitely make the cage bigger for them though because I know that it isn't big enough for one. It just happened last night and I didn't know what to do that that point.

 

[Packit]

You've absolutely done the right thing by making them a bigger cage, even thought they're fighting right now

Thank you, I thought so.

 

[Packit]

I’m really sorry your boys have had a fight.

Thank you, I hope it gets better (

 

[Piggies&buns]

Yes they were both living together before I made them a new cage. I know of this issue with the pigloos but I don't have the money currently to get them new ones I will asap. I was re introducing them because they had a fight before this one. I can most definitely make the cage bigger for them though because I know that it isn't big enough for one. It just happened last night and I didn't know what to do that that point.

Ok so if they have already had a fight even before this one then it is safe to say their bond is broken and you should not try to reintroduce them. Sadly, they do not get on And they will need to be kept separately permanently.
Given they can never share a cage again, then the pigloos will be fine. As single piggies they dont have another piggy in the same cage to fight with anymore so they pigloos will not be a problem
If you can add another grid on to make the total cage a 2x6, then each piggy can have a 2x3 to themselves.

 

[Packit]

Ok so if they have already had a fight even before this one then it is safe to say their bond is broken and you should not try to reintroduce them. Sadly, they do not get on And they will need to be kept separately permanently.
Given they can never share a cage again, then the pigloos will be fine. As single piggies they dont have another piggy in the same cage to fight with anymore so they pigloos will not be a problem
If you can add another grid on to make the total cage a 2x6, then each piggy can have a 2x3 to themselves.

Yes I will be doing that thank you