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its getting ridiculous now isn't it? I was brought up in SE London and had my mums family from there dads family are also from round there, luckly we moved to Essex in the mid 60s where i grew up met and married had 5 kids then moved away again becasue we could see the change in life to be honest we found Londons problems were dripping into Essex and I wanted some where safe for my kids to grow up, hearing about all this only confirms our decision was right, Mick was a copper so we got to know more then most,would anyone else be prepared to move away especially those in cities, I'm in nice town (sandown) but still crave a more tranquil place to live and hope to move to a village location soon, it worrys me sick for those people stuck in places with gangs around them, sounds like the Bronx doesn't it?