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Leia’s last day... questions

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Hello again everyone.

Very sadly the time has come for us to say our goodbyes to Leia. It’s very difficult because apart from her eye deformities due to the cancerous tumour on her face, she seems well. She’s still doing all her piggy things but Kim at Cat and Rabbit said she was in discomfort but hiding it extremely well. We were given more painkillers to keep her as comfortable as possible and told to wait no longer than a week before putting her to sleep because she is a very sick piggy. Even though she doesn’t act like one and Kim even said to give her a few days as she still seemed happy. This makes it hard to accept that it’s time! She’s still very active, making lots of happy noises and loving cuddles. But we look at her eye and know that it can’t be nice for her and want to prevent any future suffering. Our appointment is Tuesday at 10.40am which will be 5 days and we can both be there with her and have the rest of the day and next day to mourn and not worry about work.

My question is.. and I know Wiebke answered this before for Ginger but I’m still confused in this case... but as Leia is carrying on quite normally, will the others understand when she doesn’t come back from the vets? Or should we bring her back for them to see her briefly so they know she has died? We don’t want them to be confused looking for her and wondering where she is. We’re worried how they will cope when she doesn’t come back as they haven’t said their goodbyes.. they’re all still interacting and Leia hasn’t distanced herself or anything. To be honest their reaction and grieving is as upsetting to us as us losing her :(

Am I right in thinking that as there are still three left, that the grieving process may not be as difficult as they still have each other?
Should we give them space or more attention/cuddles afterwards?

❤️❤️ our sweet beautiful girl ❤️❤️
 

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Hello again everyone.

Very sadly the time has come for us to say our goodbyes to Leia. It’s very difficult because apart from her eye deformities due to the cancerous tumour on her face, she seems well. She’s still doing all her piggy things but Kim at Cat and Rabbit said she was in discomfort but hiding it extremely well. We were given more painkillers to keep her as comfortable as possible and told to wait no longer than a week before putting her to sleep because she is a very sick piggy. Even though she doesn’t act like one and Kim even said to give her a few days as she still seemed happy. This makes it hard to accept that it’s time! She’s still very active, making lots of happy noises and loving cuddles. But we look at her eye and know that it can’t be nice for her and want to prevent any future suffering. Our appointment is Tuesday at 10.40am which will be 5 days and we can both be there with her and have the rest of the day and next day to mourn and not worry about work.

My question is.. and I know Wiebke answered this before for Ginger but I’m still confused in this case... but as Leia is carrying on quite normally, will the others understand when she doesn’t come back from the vets? Or should we bring her back for them to see her briefly so they know she has died? We don’t want them to be confused looking for her and wondering where she is. We’re worried how they will cope when she doesn’t come back as they haven’t said their goodbyes.. they’re all still interacting and Leia hasn’t distanced herself or anything. To be honest their reaction and grieving is as upsetting to us as us losing her :(

Am I right in thinking that as there are still three left, that the grieving process may not be as difficult as they still have each other?
Should we give them space or more attention/cuddles afterwards?

❤❤ our sweet beautiful girl ❤❤

In this case, please do what you feel is best. The companions know that Leia is very ill and will very likely understand her disappearance as her removing herself from the group in order to die.

However, if it feels better for your you, you can bring her back for a goodbye. Just don't be surprised if there is much less of an emotional response (or even any interest from some piggies at all) than you'd expect.
But you would give her mates that opportunity in case they feel like it.

I will think of you and Leia tomorrow. Be strong for her.

HUGS
 
Aw, I’m so sorry you are having to make this sad but very caring decision for Leia, she’s such a brave little lady.
I would do whatever you feel at ease with. I will be thinking of you all tomorrow, sending hugs x
 
Heartbreaking for you. sending you a huge hug x
 
Thank you Wiebke for your answer. And thank you everyone for your love and support. ❤️

Our devastation shows how special our bonds with our piggies are. That these little furries can leave such a huge impression on our hearts is truly remarkable. We give so much love to them and they give so much to us. We will never be ready to say goodbye. Hopefully one day when the pain is gone, we will feel able to continue our herd to give more piggies a loving home.
 
Thank you Wiebke for your answer. And thank you everyone for your love and support. ❤️

Our devastation shows how special our bonds with our piggies are. That these little furries can leave such a huge impression on our hearts is truly remarkable. We give so much love to them and they give so much to us. We will never be ready to say goodbye. Hopefully one day when the pain is gone, we will feel able to continue our herd to give more piggies a loving home.

BIG HUGS

Piggies are an addiction... But take your time to grieve first and be kind to yourself in the coming days. Knowing that you have done your very best for Leia and made the most of the time left you had with her will make it hopefully a bit easier for you.

The actual pain of a loss is never any less since every bond is unique and special in itself. Looking after a very ill piggy usually intensifies that bond. But you should hopefully be spared the insidious guilt/failure loop at the onset and you may also find that as you have done quite a lot of your grieving beforehand at the back of your mind and emotions that the whole process beyond that is not quite as intense as it would normally be.
Overall you are not grieving any less; just the dynamics differ with a longer phase of terminal care. I hope that this will help you.
Human Bereavement: Grieving, Coping and Support Links for Guinea Pig Owners and Their Children
 
Thank you. Our appointment is in the morning. I’m feeling tired from the end of life journey and although I never want her to go, I feel like there will be some relief tomorrow when I know she cant get any worse or suffer any more pain.

When my boyfriend finishes work tonight, we might try some floor explore time depending how she feels. Regardless there will be a huge treat feast and lots of hugs and kisses.
 
BIG HUGS

Piggies are an addiction... But take your time to grieve first and be kind to yourself in the coming days.

Thank you and they certainly are! Who can resist them! My piggies have certainly converted a few people hehe.

It’s been two months since we found Leia and Ginger’s lumps just a week apart. And it’s been two painful months of anticipatory grief for both of them already. They’re the first thing we think about when we wake, what we talk about whenever we’re away from them, first thing we think about when on the way home and last thing we think about as we go to sleep. They always eat before we do and we are always having to make extra runs to the shop to ensure the little madams don’t run out of salad and veggies. 😂

Mornings aren’t the same when you have two sick piggies. Our first thoughts aren’t happy but upset and worried to see if they’re still okay or if today is the day. Worried to weigh them and see if they are maintaining. Nights have included many crying myself to sleep with grief. It’s like there’s a big grey cloud following you around that can‘t be lifted and this started as soon as we found the lumps, before the vet had told us that there was nothing that could be done for either of them except palliative pain relief.

It’ll certainly take a long time to feel okay again but I know one day we will. I have said maybe we’ll have to have a dog next as they hopefully will live a lot longer and give us a break from the heart ache. I love dogs, always have, but piggies have definitely stolen my heart.
 
Thank you. Our appointment is in the morning. I’m feeling tired from the end of life journey and although I never want her to go, I feel like there will be some relief tomorrow when I know she cant get any worse or suffer any more pain.

When my boyfriend finishes work tonight, we might try some floor explore time depending how she feels. Regardless there will be a huge treat feast and lots of hugs and kisses.

Don't feel guilty about the relief! You have invested so much into her while Leia was still there to appreciate it that the end of the journey into death usually comes as a real relief as the high emotional burden you have been carrying for so long is lifted off you - and with it a lot of the grieving 'homework' you have already done.

I have written an article for Guinea Pig Magazine in issue 45 (August 2018) called The Perfect Gift about the last day with my terminally ill Minx, still my most special piggy 13 years and over 60 piggies later, as well as the time after her pts. You may find it comforting and helpful if you would like to order it as a back issue. Guinea Pig Magazine
 
Don’t feel guilty about that feeling of relief. It’s emotionally and physically exhausting dealing with a terminally ill piggy. I will hold you both in my thoughts x
 
Thinking of you tomorrow too.
You really are dong the kindest thing for Leia and the hardest thing for you.
But a time will come when you start to remember more of the happy things and less of the sad.
Be kind to yourself. :hug:
 
I don’t know if this is the right place to ask this but as Leia wants to be left alone at the moment I am sitting here starting to list things about her to make a memory book of her while I am in another numb/slight denial phase and it’s not too painful to start. I’ll be adding lots of my favourite photos of her and almost doing like a journal of special memories. I thought it would be nice to think of things while sitting here with her. (I’ll also be doing one for Ginger before she goes and my other two remaining piggies at the same time as and when my grieving process allows.)

I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions of anything else to add? (Or where would be better to post this.)

This is what I have so far...
- Basics (born, joined our family, came from, previous name, nicknames, left us)
- Distinctive features (appearance)
- Personality characteristics
- Behaviours
- Memorable moments
- likes and dislikes
- favourite and least favourite foods
- Favourite things to do
 
Sending big hugs. I'm sorry that Leia has come to the end of her journey but she will live on on your heart.💕
 
You are all in my thoughts today, I hope you have had some special time with Leia over the last few days 💜
 
❤️ Thank you everyone. ❤️

Last night we had a huge feast picnic on the sofa all together. Then we had some floor time and had the whole living room floor to explore. Then we went into a nice clean new set up cage, explored, chutted, ate hay mixed with apple and blackberry leaves before flopping for bed with full bellies.

This morning we had breakfast in bed with mummy and daddy. We had a mix of all our favourite veggies, herbs, salad and some banana. We all chose what we wanted, then got to explore under our blankets and climb on daddy.

Leia loves Maccas bags.. chewing huge holes in them, laying and sleeping in them. Had to get some more destruction and hay nommage in before her vet app.

Everyone’s having a rest now back in their cage while mummy and daddy get themselves ready. We know we’re VIPs (Very Important Piggies). It’s tiring being showered in love, cuddled, kissed and papped all the time.
 

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Thinking if you all this morning, I’m so sorry. I know how hard this is but remember you are doing it for her best interests. Leia will know just how loved she is and what a beautiful fun life she had with you all x
 
Thinking of you today, it sounds like she had a lovely evening filled with love and her favourite things 💕
 
Sending lots of love 💕 Thinking of you all. X
 
Leia’s gone 😞 but amongst the grief we feel a lot of relief and lighter because for the past day she was getting fed up of the attention and didn’t want to be held or touched much anymore. Last night and this morning she still chowed down on veggies, salad and her hay but we knew it was her time and she was ready to go. There was something off about her even though she was hiding it so well. When we were in the vet room saying our final goodbyes she was biting us and our clothes gently and wouldn’t settle in our arms. I think she had just had enough at the end and maybe we handled and cuddle her too much.
 
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