Fluffbabies
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My question for those who don't want to read the rest. Is this saline solution? This is my boyfriend who has it with his nebuliser for his bronchiectasis. Do I put this as it is into the nebuliser without more water?
The rest:
Me again. Unfortunately our five piggies still seem to be having some kind of respiratory issues. They saw Kim at Cat and Rabbit on 21st March and she noticed they had only very slight clinical signs of something upper respiratory. The only sign we can really see is their gentle nodding/rocking with their breathing and a bit of nostril flaring. You can't always see it it's so slight but it's there. Their symptoms were hardly there at all so Kim suggested to finish their courses of co-trimoxazole. We did and they seemed the same.. not better or worse. While I was waiting to speak to Kim again I noticed an increase in sneezing and that I could notice them all doing gentle nodding/rocking and I was concerned whatever it was was getting worse.
Kim said it's hard to tell if they have some sort of low level infection, which is more likely if there is respiratory disease present. I questioned that even if the four young ones are related some how and all had some kind of weaker respiratory systems, would this be possible with Oreo as she is definitely not and Kim said it is indeed possible.
She would expect them to get worse quicker if they had an infection and they were not having antibiotics. The culture my local vet did didn't show anything conclusive so Kim is reluctant to put them on Marbocyl or Zithromax due to the degree of risk of being on an antibiotic while guessing. Kim mentioned taking an X-ray but we wouldn't put 6 year old Oreo through that and there's the risk of putting them under for that while they might be compromised so we held of on that. Kim didn't seem to suggest it would be recommended with their mild symptoms. Kim suspects they may all have either a mix of bacteria or they had an infection which irritated their airways and now they are left with chronic reactive airway with inflammation.
Kim suggested I nebulise them all twice a day for 15-20 minutes either with saline to start with and see if they improve over the Easter weekend. Then to phone on Tue/Wed. Kim said we could use F10 in the nebuliser though I would need to ask her next week about the dose/how to do that. Kim said if they were worse and I felt they needed antibiotics she would be happy to do a longer course of the co-trimoxazole (2 weeks for all of them) as they tolerated that very well and it's possible that it was doing something as they didn't get worse while on it?
It's so hard because it's all so speculative. We have no idea what's wrong but I know all five have something wrong with their breathing. Kim said she's relying on me judgement and monitoring because we're 2.5 hours away and it's very hard to get an appointment for all five of them. I feel so much pressure and I feel like I'm breaking but I can't stop for them.
And they have all got worse today. I can see their nodding constantly now, when resting or when standing. It's much more noticeable. It isn't as bad as laboured breathing you see in URI/pneumonia but I'm worried if we do not get to the bottom of it.. that that is where it could be going. Kim confirmed that if they have something or get recurring infections it would continue to damage their respiratory systems causing further issues. The four young ones are only 1.5 years old.
Kim said that I could well be nebulising all five twice a day for the rest of their lives. I'm so tired from losing Nugget, I haven't grieved properly for her because I'm so constantly worried trying to get rid of what this is. I feel like the other five are all at risk and they just look at me while they're nodding but showing no other outward signs other than the occasional sneeze and I look at them not knowing what to do to help them! :'( The thought of having five constant respiratory pigs is so draining.
I'm going to make them a nebuliser tomorrow. A friend is giving me a plastic box and I have a nebuliser. My question finally is, is this saline solution? This is my boyfriend who has it with his nebuliser for his bronchiectasis. Do I put this as it is into the nebuliser without more water? I will phone Kim on Tuesday and ask for the two weeks of co-trimoxazole as well. I just want to throw everything at this to get rid of it whatever it is! We're a month in now. I can't sleep. I'm worried about them and their future. How can all of them be sick so young and perhaps chronically so. I want to go back to two months ago when I had six happy healthy piggies and all they brought me was joy and happiness. Now all I have is worry that I can't help them, even Kim doesn't know what it is.
My question for those who don't want to read the rest. Is this saline solution? This is my boyfriend who has it with his nebuliser for his bronchiectasis. Do I put this as it is into the nebuliser without more water?
The rest:
Me again. Unfortunately our five piggies still seem to be having some kind of respiratory issues. They saw Kim at Cat and Rabbit on 21st March and she noticed they had only very slight clinical signs of something upper respiratory. The only sign we can really see is their gentle nodding/rocking with their breathing and a bit of nostril flaring. You can't always see it it's so slight but it's there. Their symptoms were hardly there at all so Kim suggested to finish their courses of co-trimoxazole. We did and they seemed the same.. not better or worse. While I was waiting to speak to Kim again I noticed an increase in sneezing and that I could notice them all doing gentle nodding/rocking and I was concerned whatever it was was getting worse.
Kim said it's hard to tell if they have some sort of low level infection, which is more likely if there is respiratory disease present. I questioned that even if the four young ones are related some how and all had some kind of weaker respiratory systems, would this be possible with Oreo as she is definitely not and Kim said it is indeed possible.
She would expect them to get worse quicker if they had an infection and they were not having antibiotics. The culture my local vet did didn't show anything conclusive so Kim is reluctant to put them on Marbocyl or Zithromax due to the degree of risk of being on an antibiotic while guessing. Kim mentioned taking an X-ray but we wouldn't put 6 year old Oreo through that and there's the risk of putting them under for that while they might be compromised so we held of on that. Kim didn't seem to suggest it would be recommended with their mild symptoms. Kim suspects they may all have either a mix of bacteria or they had an infection which irritated their airways and now they are left with chronic reactive airway with inflammation.
Kim suggested I nebulise them all twice a day for 15-20 minutes either with saline to start with and see if they improve over the Easter weekend. Then to phone on Tue/Wed. Kim said we could use F10 in the nebuliser though I would need to ask her next week about the dose/how to do that. Kim said if they were worse and I felt they needed antibiotics she would be happy to do a longer course of the co-trimoxazole (2 weeks for all of them) as they tolerated that very well and it's possible that it was doing something as they didn't get worse while on it?
It's so hard because it's all so speculative. We have no idea what's wrong but I know all five have something wrong with their breathing. Kim said she's relying on me judgement and monitoring because we're 2.5 hours away and it's very hard to get an appointment for all five of them. I feel so much pressure and I feel like I'm breaking but I can't stop for them.
And they have all got worse today. I can see their nodding constantly now, when resting or when standing. It's much more noticeable. It isn't as bad as laboured breathing you see in URI/pneumonia but I'm worried if we do not get to the bottom of it.. that that is where it could be going. Kim confirmed that if they have something or get recurring infections it would continue to damage their respiratory systems causing further issues. The four young ones are only 1.5 years old.
Kim said that I could well be nebulising all five twice a day for the rest of their lives. I'm so tired from losing Nugget, I haven't grieved properly for her because I'm so constantly worried trying to get rid of what this is. I feel like the other five are all at risk and they just look at me while they're nodding but showing no other outward signs other than the occasional sneeze and I look at them not knowing what to do to help them! :'( The thought of having five constant respiratory pigs is so draining.
I'm going to make them a nebuliser tomorrow. A friend is giving me a plastic box and I have a nebuliser. My question finally is, is this saline solution? This is my boyfriend who has it with his nebuliser for his bronchiectasis. Do I put this as it is into the nebuliser without more water? I will phone Kim on Tuesday and ask for the two weeks of co-trimoxazole as well. I just want to throw everything at this to get rid of it whatever it is! We're a month in now. I can't sleep. I'm worried about them and their future. How can all of them be sick so young and perhaps chronically so. I want to go back to two months ago when I had six happy healthy piggies and all they brought me was joy and happiness. Now all I have is worry that I can't help them, even Kim doesn't know what it is.